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Old 06-29-2011, 03:25 AM   #1
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Isshin and Urahara head off somewhere.

Ginjou and Ichigo run off to some ruins somewhere.

Ichigo blames Ginjou!

Ginjou apologizes.

Ginjou explains, "Tsukishima's power isn't about disrupting memories. Instead, he inserts himself into the memories of anyone that he's cut.

Ichigo asks, "If Tsukishima gets killed, will everything return to normal?"

"We don't have actual proof that will happen. We don't have anything else," says Ginjou

Yukio shows up.

Let's go home together.

Ishida stands up next to his bed in the hospital.


Yukio brings Ginjou and Ichigo to his huge mansion.


Is that where the decisive battle will take place...!!

The end. Next issue.


Finally Tsukishima's Power is revealed.
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Old 06-29-2011, 08:20 AM   #2
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Spoiler:
Isshin and Urahara head off somewhere.

Ginjou and Ichigo run off to some ruins somewhere.

Ichigo blames Ginjou!

Ginjou apologizes.

Ginjou explains, "Tsukishima's power isn't about disrupting memories. Instead, he inserts himself into the memories of anyone that he's cut.

Ichigo asks, "If Tsukishima gets killed, will everything return to normal?"

"We don't have actual proof that will happen. We don't have anything else," says Ginjou

Yukio shows up.

Let's go home together.

Ishida stands up next to his bed in the hospital.


Yukio brings Ginjou and Ichigo to his huge mansion.


Is that where the decisive battle will take place...!!

The end. Next issue.


Finally Tsukishima's Power is revealed.

I wonder if this REALLY is going to be the final battle between
Ichigo and Tsukishima. Somehow I doubt it. Seems more like




Though the chapter explains Tsukishima powers a bit differently

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Tsukishima is actually manipulating people's pasts so he's a part of them. It's not that their memories are mixed up. Tsukishima is literally in their past. Like he time travels or something.
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Old 06-29-2011, 09:25 AM   #3
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Default Re: Bleach 454 Spoiler

That picture looks like a mutated cockroach. Anyway, I liked that we finally got a grasp onn what Tsukishima's power is, but I bet it's going to be called something different and explained differently next chapter.
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Though the chapter explains Tsukishima powers a bit differently

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Tsukishima is actually manipulating people's pasts so he's a part of them. It's not that their memories are mixed up. Tsukishima is literally in their past. Like he time travels or something.
I don't see this being some form of time travel. He inserts himself into people's memories, not their pasts, because it wouldn't make sense that he could do something like that on an individual basis. (Edit: Nevermind that last part, I'm just a bit confused.) If you've ever played Kingdom Hearts 365/2 Days, I would call it
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"Xion in reverse"
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Old 06-29-2011, 11:03 AM   #5
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It is only Ginjo's speculation until Tsukishima confirms it.
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This confirms the theory in NF.
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Showdown Time!

I wonder what Tsukishima's real combat skills will be?
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I don't see this being some form of time travel. He inserts himself into people's memories, not their pasts, because it wouldn't make sense that he could do something like that on an individual basis. (Edit: Nevermind that last part, I'm just a bit confused.) If you've ever played Kingdom Hearts 365/2 Days, I would call it
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Ginjou said that Tsukishima's power is not the confusion of a target's memories. So Tsukishima is not brainwashing anyone. It's a manipulation
of their past. So Tsukishima is literally Orihime's friend and Ichigo's cousin.

Tsukishima is a reality warper in a sense.
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Ginjou said that Tsukishima's power is not the confusion of a target's memories. So Tsukishima is not brainwashing anyone. It's a manipulation
of their past. So Tsukishima is literally Orihime's friend and Ichigo's cousin.

Tsukishima is a reality warper in a sense.
My confusion is that, where the timeline is concerned, time affects everyone at the same moment. If Tsukishima inserted himself into Orihime's past as her friend, Ichigo at that time in the timeline would've met Tsukishima somewhere along the line and realized that the man is no friend of theirs, creating a problem in the past. Or he met Tsukishima as a normal person at the same point in time Orihime did, but then the current timeline changes and Ichigo and Ginjo are in the same boat as everyone else.

The only logical explanation I can think of is that when Tsukishima cuts someone, he literally seperates their past from the main timeline and creates an alternate timeline where he literally is connected to everyone. I don't think Bleach would get that technical about it, but without that it doesn't make sense to me. Then again, this is a manga where people shoot energy blasts from guns. The logic is only as thick as in any fantasy fiction.
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That, or your very loophole could be what would set them free. Perhaps, if he were ever really hit with that ability, this is what makes Uryu seem apart from the rest: he may be suffering from a logic error that he's aware of, and is now trying to reconcile.

Not the likeliest of theories... but I like it even so.
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