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Old 08-02-2011, 12:37 PM   #21
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water is Luffy's enemy , Kisame WaterDomes Luffy , Luffy drowns GG.
Still Water is bad for Luffy.

And Kisame would be dead before Waterdome can be used.
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Old 08-02-2011, 01:11 PM   #22
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water is Luffy's enemy , Kisame WaterDomes Luffy , Luffy drowns GG.



ah c'mon , waterdome isn't very large !!!!!! and why would Kisame stay in the middle of it ???!
Kisame's speed in waterdome is supersonic.
No, STANDING water is Luffy's weakness. So shooting water at him wouldn't do much, honestly. Especially since he will just punch and disperse it. And surely you don't think Luffy is dumb enough to let himself be trapped in the water dome?

Wowww, Kisame's water dome's speed is supersonic!? That's way beyond anything Luffy can react to!

Oh, wait. No it isn't. Luffy easily punches through the water dome with Gear 3rd. It's not that large as you can see in the pic, and Kisame always stays in the middle while Suirō Sameodori no Jutsu is activated (the technique that makes the water dome follow Kisame whenever he goes).
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water is Luffy's enemy , Kisame WaterDomes Luffy , Luffy drowns GG.



ah c'mon , waterdome isn't very large !!!!!! and why would Kisame stay in the middle of it ???!
Kisame's speed in waterdome is supersonic.
Kisame HAS to stay in the middle. The dome follows him.

When Luffy fights hypersonic+ people? And blitzed the hell out of Soru users?

Luffy jet gatlings kisame to death in the beginning :/ As i said before, it beat down people who use tekkai. Kisame doesn't have tekkai level durability
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Old 08-02-2011, 03:17 PM   #24
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Still Water is bad for Luffy.

And Kisame would be dead before Waterdome can be used.
in chapter 470 , page 11 .. exactly at the top-left side of the page , Kisame showed considerably high speed feats in rushing and evasion especially when he rushed towards Sabu-chan ,I think with that speed feat he'd be probably able to evade Luffy's elasticated punch and also there's no way Luffy's punch speed can exceed B's raiton pencil speed when Kisame dodged it , see page 12 of the same chapter which illustrate the great reaction feat Kisame had.

plus , in Chapter 506/6 .. he evaded Gai's speedy kick and created a Shark in less than half a second.

and still he can create a quasi-stilling amount of water in less than 1 second. In chapter 471/15 he came up with a big wave explosion turning the field into a Large WaterDome of water that drowns anyone who can't swim as Sabu-chan and Ponta .. and the same thing could happen with Luffy.


Luffy from what he had shown , used to start his battles with one punch but when gets bloodlusted , he could do more than 20 punches in 1 sec.

However this is not gonna happen as Kisame had shown the ability to dodge and the ability to create massive amounts of Water in less than 1 sec without any water source present.

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No, STANDING water is Luffy's weakness. So shooting water at him wouldn't do much, honestly. Especially since he will just punch and disperse it. And surely you don't think Luffy is dumb enough to let himself be trapped in the water dome?
well he's not fast enough to evade such a large scaled technique.
inside WaterDome Sabu-chan and Ponta stopped moving and started getting drowned so the same thing applies to Luffy.

plus , Kisame launched a big wave above everyone and didn't launch it into their faces.

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Wowww, Kisame's water dome's speed is supersonic!? That's way beyond anything Luffy can react to!
yes he's , like any shark under water surface.

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Oh, wait. No it isn't. Luffy easily punches through the water dome with Gear 3rd. It's not that large as you can see in the pic,
it's Large 'cuz it seems Large in the manga scan and if it wasn't why would A's team and Mei's team notice it ?

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Kisame always stays in the middle while Suirō Sameodori no Jutsu is activated (the technique that makes the water dome follow Kisame whenever he goes).
he doesn't have to stay in middle , it moves with him as long as he's not leaving its boundaries so he can move freely inside it from the back to the middle and to the front and this is proven in page 427/5 when he deceived V2 B by moving in the opposite direction to kill Sabu-chan and Ponta, but when Kisame gets out of the boundaries, the WaterDome pops out and this is proven in chapter 472 page 12.
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Old 08-04-2011, 04:02 AM   #26
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What? page 4 shows us that Kisame IS in the middle. Killerbee thought that if he leaves Sabo and Ponta behind, and Kisame will follow him, Sabo and Ponta will come out of the water dome because the dome follows wherever Kisame goes. You didn't prove anything.

As for page 12... where the hell do you see Kisame leaving the water dome? He simply cancelled it. Look, Kisame is standing right there near Killerbee.

And no, Luffy is much, MUCH faster than anything Kisame can pull out. Especially because he has CoO, so he can predict Kisame's moves anyway.

It was large enough for Ei's team to notice, but not large enough for Luffy not to be able to reach to Kisame (who IS in the middle). Not to mention that Shii is a sensor.
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What? page 4 shows us that Kisame IS in the middle. Killerbee thought that if he leaves Sabo and Ponta behind, and Kisame will follow him, Sabo and Ponta will come out of the water dome because the dome follows wherever Kisame goes. You didn't prove anything.

As for page 12... where the hell do you see Kisame leaving the water dome? He simply cancelled it. Look, Kisame is standing right there near Killerbee.

And no, Luffy is much, MUCH faster than anything Kisame can pull out. Especially because he has CoO, so he can predict Kisame's moves anyway.

It was large enough for Ei's team to notice, but not large enough for Luffy not to be able to reach to Kisame (who IS in the middle). Not to mention that Shii is a sensor.
Ok , I understand now.
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