The Naruto Shippuden: Ultimate Ninja Storm Generations Discussion Thread.

[XGriever]

well maybe not a full combo since the finishing hit usually deals the most damage. Were just going to have to see online fights from the japanese version and make our judgements from that.

never know the sub window could have been tweaked a little.

[Kiez]

Originally Posted by pathbeyondthedark

I'm afraid of the same thing. I've tried to think of ways to get hits in but it just seems like it will go back and forth until one player is out and gets stuck in a combo. Then when one of his bars returns he'll just return the favor.

As of now, there seems to be no skill involved and the winner will come down to a 50/50 chance. Some people will use supports and items effectively, but if both players do this then the same will happen.

I just can't see myself landing any hits until the opponents subs are gone. Then there is the possibilit of them running off until their subs have come back.

Also it's not like you can slow down your combos in this like in Storm 2 to make it harder to sub out of them.

[pathbeyondthedark]

Originally Posted by megabbaut

Not when you get hit by an attack and then a support character knocks you back and sets you up for an ultimate.

How will you get knocked back if there's no bounce and you have cancels? Come on now, knock backs will rarely happen in this game.

[theo_mm]

Me too, should be fun! ... Looking forward to a tourny here too... Tehehe. Can anyone guess who I'll be maining? *Looks at sig

[Kibanaru lover]

Originally Posted by Kiez

I just can't see myself landing any hits until the opponents subs are gone. Then there is the possibilit of them running off until their subs have come back.

Also it's not like you can slow down your combos in this like in Storm 2 to make it harder to sub out of them.

people cant sub what they dont know is coming. they will get caught in jutsu every once in awile and its not realy smart to sub jutsu cus they dont do that much damage. subbing at the right time is also important and predicting your oponent is gone to play a factor with canceling. will your oponent cancel into you when you sub or go backwards. anyways the people who use there subs too fast will end up losing and getting there guard broken than a ult on them

[pathbeyondthedark]

Okay here's just one scenario:

Opponent dashes away to start the game. You can either stay away or attempt to get close. Now he can punish with an ultimate, forcing you to use a sub bar. Now you are instantly at a disadvantage.

[Kiez]

Originally Posted by Kibanaru lover

people cant sub what they dont know is coming. they will get caught in jutsu every once in awile and its not realy smart to sub jutsu cus they dont do that much damage. subbing at the right time is also important and predicting your oponent is gone to play a factor with canceling. will your oponent cancel into you when you sub or go backwards. anyways the people who use there subs too fast will end up losing and getting there guard broken than a ult on them

I'm fine with it, I'm pretty sure I will utilize it ok. It's just that when you come up against an a opponent that keeps doing it, where is the fun in that?

[Mikahel]

Originally Posted by Kiez

Playing the demo again earlier and I'm really concerned about the subbing online. It is so easy to pull off, and I don't think anyone is going to be able to land a hit unless all of their subs have gone.

This is my greatest fear, along with Susanoo being able to council. I mean I landed combo's a lot in Storm 2 but it's almost impossible in Generations. I hope they change the sensitivity of subbing back to Storm 2's version otherwise I don't think I will enjoy online. I don't even want to go back to the demo because Pain is so broken it pi$$es me off. His tilt and jutsu are so much faster than your cancel and if you sub his combo's too early the back lash from the shinra tensei will still hit you from behind .

Originally Posted by XGriever

it comes down to how wisely people will use them. Players will HAVE to let themselves be attacked sometimes since if they sub everything then there buggered. In this respect i think it will be fine.

im more worried about susanno to be honest. being pushed against the side of a map getting constantly sliced and having to take major damage or subbing and then eventually running out and taking major damage...will have to use jutsu and supports to try and keep them away.

yeah his ultimate jutsu inculding Nagato and Sasori will just be amazing i think it it will go like this:

Kabuto summons the coffins the edos burst out of the coffins one at a time starting with kakazu using his attack then itachi running up alongside kakazu and using his fireball jutsu, then Deidara comes alongside itachi using his clay birds and the other edos will follow.

creates a massive blast and shows them all watching it then they all dissapear back in the coffins which go back underground.

Yep that description of his ultimate sounds about right. definitely gonna be the best ultimate in the game just because the akatsuki are in it.


p.s I think the least impressive character is Zabuza too, he is so slow, the way he swings that sword is as if he is swinging a 50kg dumbell. His water dragon jutsu is really impressive though, it it fricking gigantic compared to suigetsu's. His ultimate isn't that impressive and I don't think his awakening does anything (just stat boost and slight appearance change).

You may not agree with this also but from the looks of the First Hokage he doesn't seem that impressive to me. Danzo has a better ultimate than him and he's supposed to be the master of wood style. He is damn slow and looks kinda average to me. Just my opinion though.

[theo_mm]

Originally Posted by pathbeyondthedark

Okay here's just one scenario:

Opponent dashes away to start the game. You can either stay away or attempt to get close. Now he can punish with an ultimate, forcing you to use a sub bar. Now you are instantly at a disadvantage.

If that's how it starts, no problem. Since you can KNJ in between chakra dashes, combos, and jutsu now. True, you'll be at a small dis-advantage but maintaining the KNJ bar is up to the player really.

[Kiez]

Hmm, guess we will have to wait and see when the game actually comes out.

Also I agree with you about Zabuza and the First Hokage Mikahel. The First just seems so clunky and slow, his moves don't flow together at all. Zabuza's ultimate should've Water Style: Giant Vortex Jutsu, not the swing of the sword.

[HachibiXSenpai]

Originally Posted by Kiez

I just can't see myself landing any hits until the opponents subs are gone. Then there is the possibilit of them running off until their subs have come back.

If they run you can just Chakra dash right at them, guard is easier to break now from what i heard so jump guarding is a big no.

Originally Posted by Kibanaru lover

people cant sub what they dont know is coming. they will get caught in jutsu every once in awile and its not realy smart to sub jutsu cus they dont do that much damage. subbing at the right time is also important and predicting your oponent is gone to play a factor with canceling. will your oponent cancel into you when you sub or go backwards. anyways the people who use there subs too fast will end up losing and getting there guard broken than a ult on them

This. I'm positive Online in Generations won't turn out as bad as people are thinking, we just got to be careful with timing our subs instead of using them all up.

[Kibanaru lover]

Originally Posted by pathbeyondthedark

Okay here's just one scenario:

Opponent dashes away to start the game. You can either stay away or attempt to get close. Now he can punish with an ultimate, forcing you to use a sub bar. Now you are instantly at a disadvantage.

you can guard mid dash now. this will be used to trick people into doing what you said and than you can ult them when they are recovering.

[theo_mm]

On the 1st Hokage, Danzo definately uses Mokuton better in his ultimate. But to me, Hashirama shows his control over it more in his ultimate. He uses the branches to create a pathway for him to send the opponent flying back down. Where as Danzo commits suicide, but is saved by Izanagi ^.^

I agree, he does look really slow though -.- None the less, I plan to main him!

[pathbeyondthedark]

Originally Posted by Kibanaru lover

you can guard mid dash now

Forgot

But whatever you do your opponent can mimic. You use a support, he uses a support. Eventually you'll both be down to either take a big hit like a full combo or ultimate or use a sub bar. So whoever loses there's first will be the only one to take damage until you get it back, then u hit them and it starts all over.

[Kibanaru lover]

Originally Posted by pathbeyondthedark

Forgot

But whatever you do your opponent can mimic. You use a support, he uses a support. Eventually you'll both be down to either take a big hit like a full combo or ultimate or use a sub bar. So whoever loses there's first will be the only one to take damage until you get it back, then u hit them and it starts all over.

since when do people ever use supports at the same time. the different types of supports will depending on when to use them. some are not ment for close range well some own in distance. these differences plus your items should change the out come of the match. when people realize you have no subs they will rush you. use that to your advantage. people go crazy and loose there focus in those situations

[XGriever]

lol seems im not the only one that doesnt really favour Zabuza.

@Mikahel i agree the tree danzo forms looks more impressive especially how it coils round and crushes danzo and the opponent. The First hokage might seem a little clunky here and there but get him in the hands of some good players and he might be a lot better. As for his ultimate jutsu i like the tree he forms and him jumping and vaulting with the branches but im not keen on how he punches them back down i would have definatly prefered him sparking of a explosion from the tree roots and watching it burn with burning branches falling around him.

[HachibiXSenpai]

Originally Posted by pathbeyondthedark

So whoever loses there's first will be the only one to take damage until you get it back, then u hit them and it starts all over.

Which is exactly why the opponent should think more next time before using up his/her subs.

[Mikahel]

Originally Posted by Kiez

Hmm, guess we will have to wait and see when the game actually comes out.

Also I agree with you about Zabuza and the First Hokage Mikahel. The First just seems so clunky and slow, his moves don't flow together at all. Zabuza's ultimate should've Water Style: Giant Vortex Jutsu, not the swing of the sword.

LOL I laughed so hard at that one.

But yh I will hardly ever use Zabuza, never online that's for sure. I will use the First Hokage just because of his reputation but only for friendly matches; apart from that he isn't too impressive at all. I can't help but keep watching his old Ultimate Ninja ultimate, it's probably the best ultimate I've ever seen in ultimate Ninja (or Storm 1 Itachi's Tsukuyomi) .... This is the definition of bad a$$:

YouTube:

Even his other ultimate is amazing


compared to this

YouTube:

[Anti-Charger]

Originally Posted by theo_mm

On the 1st Hokage, Danzo definately uses Mokuton better in his ultimate. But to me, Hashirama shows his control over it more in his ultimate. He uses the branches to create a pathway for him to send the opponent flying back down. Where as Danzo commits suicide, but is saved by Izanagi ^.^

I agree, he does look really slow though -.- None the less, I plan to main him!

Isn't that kind of the point with Dnazo and Hashirama?
Danzo makes a huge tree but cannot control it, Hashirama makes smaller trees but can completely control them.

[HachibiXSenpai]

I don't really care what people think of the First Hokage's Generation Ougi, it looks fine to me.