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Old 09-14-2012, 01:41 PM   #1
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Default Unfair modding in the Battlegrounds section

I was involved in a thread in the Battlegrounds section, Korra vs Roy Mustang. The Immortal Watchdog banned me for "biased debating and fanwanking". However, I am just as much of a Fullmetal Alchemist fan as I am a Legend of Korra fan. My username is even for King Bradley, a character from Fullmetal Alchemist. Immortal Watch Dog's accusations are false. I did not break any rules; I remained civil and courteous and did not flame anyone in the thread. Yet Watch Dog chose to ban me, essentially because he didn't like my argument.

What is the point of the Battlegrounds if you can just ban people who don't agree with you and continue to make their argument?

Edit: The Smod Konoha'sGreenThunder unbanned me. I maintain that The Immortal Watch Dog's actions were unfair.
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biased debating and fanwanking has nothing to do with remaining civil and courteous and did not flaming anyone.

You ignored evidence and exaggerated feats and continued to do it after you were told not to.
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biased debating and fanwanking has nothing to do with remaining civil and courteous and did not flaming anyone.

You ignored evidence and exaggerated feats and continued to do it after you were told not to.
It doesn't matter what ridiculous claims a person makes as long as their comments remain within the forum rules. A mod cannot arbitrarily decide when someone can or can't post based on how foolish think a person's post is.
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It doesn't matter what ridiculous claims a person makes as long as their comments remain within the forum rules. A mod cannot arbitrarily decide when someone can or can't post based on how foolish a person's post is.
In the battlegrounds they can. At least that is my understanding of the new orders the Mods were given.
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Here is a defense of my actions in the thread. Immortal Watch Dog apparently re-banned me so I couldn't finish posting this in the thread.

(Immortal Watch Dog's post was addressed to Konoha'sGreenThunder)

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Are you seriously doing this pro PBS crap after you were told to stay out?

Do you have any idea what consitutes trolling on this section?

Disagreements are fine wanking is not being biased and ignoring evidence is.not
Well let's see what the Official Debate Standards for the Battlegrounds have to say:

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Trolling: can come in a variety of forms biased debating and fanboyism is one of those forms: You are welcome to be a fan of a series but when you start embellishing that series and downplaying others you become a problem not just for the member base but for the staff as well.
I'm not being biased, as I like Fullmetal Alchemist as much as Avatar/Legend of Korra (I own the 2003 DVDs, the first half of the Brotherhood blu-rays, and will buy the second half when I get the money). I haven't embellished any feats for Korra. I am open to Roy having the speed everyone claims if there are feats to back it up, which is another key BG rule:

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Feats: consistent showings (high end and normal) are the only valid form of evidence- while calculations and other methods of fan interpretation of these feats can be presented in the BG’s nothing trumps consistent feats everything takes else in canon takes a back seat to on panel evidence:
So far, no feats have been presented which show that Mustang's attacks are too fast for Korra to react to at 50 meters. Maybe at only a couple meters like when he was fighting Envy and Lust, and a few posts back I conceded that if Mustang was at point blank range Korra probably couldn't react. But standard BG rules state that:

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the opposing sides start out about 100 feet from one another.
Ah, ok. It's 100 feet, or about 30 meters. Still, that's a longer range than when Mustang was fighting Envy or Lust. No feats have been shown that indicate that Mustang's attack at 30 meters is too fast for Korra to react to; I'm not downplaying anything, I'm asking for evidence for people's claims.

Note that I am not trying to bring the actual debate into this thread, but defend myself against the accusations that I was somehow breaking Battlegrounds rules.

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In the battlegrounds they can. At least that is my understanding of the new orders the Mods were given.
Nope, it's abusing mod powers
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Why are you calling him out anyway? Or you trying to get in more trouble?? If he abused his power before (I dunno if he did) wouldn't he do it again?
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Why are you calling him out anyway? Or you trying to get in more trouble??
He banned me from the thread unfairly. I am bringing my concern about unfair modding to the feedback forum. That is a purpose of this section is it not?
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So were you or were you not instructed to stay out of BG affairs?
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So were you or were you not instructed to stay out of BG affairs?
That is neither related to this thread nor your concern. Your not a mod so don't get involved in moderator affairs.
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That is neither related to this thread nor your concern. Your not a mod so don't get involved in moderator affairs.
It kinda is my concern if One Mod says one thing and another mod says another thing. Since I post in that section I'd like to know who is right. And yes, it is directly related to this thread.
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Okay, it's fine to be concerned, but just let staff handle it, please.
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It doesn't matter what ridiculous claims a person makes as long as their comments remain within the forum rules. A mod cannot arbitrarily decide when someone can or can't post based on how foolish think a person's post is.
read the BG house standards

you are simply put not permitted to have opinions not supported by facts

Bradley is also a very skilled manipulator and liar who is essentially using your issues with me as an excuse to skirt what he did

to the extent that..as far as I know the man didn't even obey the primary canon laws
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In my opinion you are both two angry people and angry people say whatever.
But please don't drag all of us into this.
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read the BG house standards

you are simply put not permitted to have opinions not supported by facts

Bradley is also a very skilled manipulator and liar who is essentially using your issues with me as an excuse to skirt what he did
You are calling me a liar? That's a pretty serious accusation. When have I lied?

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You mean this rule?

"Canon: You will use the primary canon only: Whatever that maybe you will not utilize non canon material (the DBZ anime) unless specified by OP fiat."

I actually brought it up myself in the thread.

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Bradley is also a very skilled manipulator and liar who is essentially using your issues with me as an excuse to skirt what he did

to the extent that..as far as I know the man didn't even obey the primary canon laws
Those standards do not overrule anything within the general forum rules IWD.
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Those standards do not overrule anything within the general forum rules IWD.
So your saying the BGs should be shut down, since you won't allow people who don't follow BG rules to be kicked out of the section?
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That's not at all what he said. Please, let staff handle it.
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I actually brought it up myself in the thread.[/QUOTE]

yes you did while using the 03 anime? and doing nothing to correct your opposition?

also why bring up Korras canonicity everyone knew that unless you had some spastic morons arguing against you


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So the next time Nightmare luffy posts his "Madara is superior to a nigh omnipotent who blows up multiverses" threads I should just allow him to single handedly train wreck the entire section because the rest of Viz respects peoples rights to have asinine views?

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@Bradley- You can PM your issue directly to me and we'll sort it out there.

@Larry01239- Please stay out of staff business.

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