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Old 06-11-2013, 11:57 PM   #361
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Default Re: In Defense of Danzo

Why would Danzo let Oro be hokage when Danzo did not trust him AND when Danzo tried to sabatagoe him?
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Old 06-12-2013, 12:02 AM   #362
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I don't think you have proof of either of those events before Orochimaru left the village.

Again with Danzo as Kage the history of Naruto would be vastly different. What we do know is that ORochimaru and Danzo worked closely together while he was in the village. Both with the Hashirama cell experiments and recruiting Kabuto to work as a spy..
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Old 06-12-2013, 12:30 AM   #363
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He worked with him but he did not trust him. He went to sabotage him

He put the village above his partnership with Oro
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Old 08-12-2013, 02:33 AM   #364
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Anyone who believes Danzo is pure evil is non-observant and ignorant.

I say we thank him, for without his character, Naruto (as a manga/anime) would be a lot less functionally plot-driven.
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3 and a half years later, Wooster is still convincing people that Danzo wasn't evil.

That said, he still went out like a punk with his Hiruzen worship. Nothing Hiruzen has done as an Edo has given me reason to believe that he's superior to Danzo.
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Danzo is better in terms of combat.

Hiruzen is better in terms of morals.

Danzo has better ideals.

Hiruzen has more peaceful ideals.

Which is the inferior person?
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Anyone who believes Danzo is pure evil is non-observant and ignorant.

I say we thank him, for without his character, Naruto (as a manga/anime) would be a lot less functionally plot-driven.
Danzo isn't evil he is neutral.

You are exactly right. I was trying to warn people about the danger of this death. Sadly, people didn't realize how right I was

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3 and a half years later, Wooster is still convincing people that Danzo wasn't evil.

That said, he still went out like a punk with his Hiruzen worship. Nothing Hiruzen has done as an Edo has given me reason to believe that he's superior to Danzo.
That was just a bad dream.


Danzo follow his ideology much better than Hiruzen. Early Hirzuen used both Hashirama and Tobirama methods. I think Tobirama rejected Danzo for hesitation alone.
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Old 08-12-2013, 07:49 PM   #368
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Danzo follow his ideology much better than Hiruzen. Early Hirzuen used both Hashirama and Tobirama methods. I think Tobirama rejected Danzo for hesitation alone.

We do mainly get the flashback of the decision. Hiruzen seems the more natural leader due to decisiveness.

Although it is Danzo's POV, so it is meant to...arguably... accentuate a situation where Danzo came up short and where Hiruzen was the better candidate, before the decision is made. Both may simply be put together for story efficiency.

The question is why if Danzo so envied Hiruzen, would he not emulate him? That soft way out (death, last words) seemed to speak of his true inner feelings and not a time to lie to himself.

And yet, what took Danzo past efficiency, and into coldness? Was it simply the role provided to him by Hiruzen , that caused him to turn cold? I don't think so.

I could be wrong.

Perhaps a complementary trait that the great Tobirama picked up on, that could lead Danzo on his path helped turn the decision away from him.

The next question might be why this trait would be a negative? For what?

Tobirama said he spent much time(? or effort?) negotiating peace. Perhaps this was also something to which Hiruzen was better suited. His brothers heart with his own decisiveness. At least compared to Danzo.

(BTW, I am definitely more a Danzo fan, than Hiruzen).
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