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Old 08-15-2009, 12:24 PM   #1
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Default President Obama's Health Care Reform Bill.

I know a lot of things are going on with the new health care reform bill, and I wanted to see what you guys on the site think of it. Do you think it should be passed?

For anyone who's interested, here's a link to a site where you can read the actual bill: http://docs.house.gov/edlabor/AAHCA-BillText-071409.pdf

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Default Re: President Obama's Health Care Reform Bill.

That is a lot of reading. i will read it when i have time, but i am pro for this proposal so far, from what i hear in cnn it is a good thing, then again fox says is a bad thing. What i understand is that it will help out the needy, i am all pro that. But i do not know exactly what it will do, so ill get to reading asap. thanks for the link!!

btw Fox is a bias news channel. so is cnn. tho fox takes it to another level.
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Okay, so what I get from the bill is basically that it is Public Heath Care? Then yes, I agree with it. Seriously, guys, medical costs are the number one cause of bankruptcy in the United States. It is not a basic human right in the U.S., but a business. That is just disgusting and evil.
Or just come to Canada! We have free health care, AND gay marriage.

anyways, sorry if I'm wrong about what the bill is about, but I just barely skimmed through the first few pages and I don't regularly follow American politics.
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Okay, so what I get from the bill is basically that it is Public Heath Care? Then yes, I agree with it. Seriously, guys, medical costs are the number one cause of bankruptcy in the United States. It is not a basic human right in the U.S., but a business. That is just disgusting and evil.
Or just come to Canada! We have free health care, AND gay marriage.
shhhh lou!e might leave to canada. lol

but seriously that is what i got from the bill too, if it is that then yeah i am all for it. but someone is gonna have to pay the bill either way, and must probably is gonna be the tax payers, i do not mind paying taxes that actually are gonna go to something useful.
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This bill is horrible. If it passes, there goes health care down the drain.

Oh, and itachiuchiha85, I think Fox News is the most fair news network out there. No network is more bias than MSNBC.
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This bill is horrible. If it passes, there goes health care down the drain.

Oh, and itachiuchiha85, I think Fox News is the most fair news network out there. No network is more bias than MSNBC.
WOWOWOWOWOW there goes health care for the people that have money to do so, there are a lot of people that do not have health care this will give them the chance to get it. (if what i understand is right then this is a good thing)

and fox is fair? i guess you are an oreilly supporter then. sigh. Fox is a biased and racist towards other nations network.

edit: and they hate anything that will actually help the majority of the country, they believe in the "selected few" idea.
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This bill is horrible. If it passes, there goes health care down the drain.

Oh, and itachiuchiha85, I think Fox News is the most fair news network out there. No network is more bias than MSNBC.
MSNBC gives nothing but the facts. Fox News is only helping the recent "Health Scare", even though the bill was created to help people afford Health Care and Health Insurance.
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MSNBC gives nothing but the facts. Fox News is only helping the recent "Health Scare", even though the bill was created to help people afford Health Care and Health Insurance.
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The very reason that I put a link to the actual bill is that you can't just believe what everyone tells you, even when it comes to the news. So I posted the link so people on this site could make an honest, informed decision.
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WOWOWOWOWOW there goes health care for the people that have money to do so, there are a lot of people that do not have health care this will give them the chance to get it. (if what i understand is right then this is a good thing)

and fox is fair? i guess you are an oreilly supporter then. sigh. Fox is a biased and racist towards other nations network.
Sorry, but I don't feel like getting taxed even more then I already am, and then having to wait 5 months see a doctor if I break a bone.

Socialism is a bad thing, not a good thing.

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MSNBC gives nothing but the facts. Fox News is only helping the recent "Health Scare", even though the bill was created to help people afford Health Care and Health Insurance.

I would looooove to see how MSNBC is fair. Please give me an example, because they probably don't even have the right to call them selves a news station with the BS they say.
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Sorry, but I don't feel like getting taxed even more then I already am, and then having to wait 5 months see a doctor if I break a bone.

Socialism is a bad thing, not a good thing.




I would looooove to see how MSNBC is fair. Please give me an example, because they probably don't even have the right to call them selves a news station with the BS they say.
Define "fair" for me, because I don't see how they've done anything dirty.
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sorry, but i don't feel like getting taxed even more then i already am, and then having to wait 5 months see a doctor if i break a bone.

Socialism is a bad thing, not a good thing.

(wake up already! We are in a socialist and capitalist economy, we are a mix. So we are socialist. And you dont have to wait 5 months to see a doctor! Where the hell did you get that? Let me guess, fox. And this taxes are actually gonna help the majority of the people! I hate the fact that we are still thinking that the majority of the us can afford almost anything, reality check man we cant! Lets help them out! If we spend billions helping other nations, why cant we spend some on our own people?!)


i would looooove to see how msnbc is fair. Please give me an example, because they probably don't even have the right to call them selves a news station with the bs they say.(my god you are such a republican! You "faux lover")
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WOWOWOWOWOW there goes health care for the people that have money to do so, there are a lot of people that do not have health care this will give them the chance to get it. (if what i understand is right then this is a good thing)

and fox is fair? i guess you are an oreilly supporter then. sigh. Fox is a biased and racist towards other nations network.
Yes, you are right... well, partly. Health care does not diminish in quality simply because everyone's given it. The United States is pretty much the most wealthy and powerful country on the planet, and yet I'm expected to believe they can't even provide adquate medical help for their citizens, for fear that the quality will diminish?! This is total BS. And, I can turn back to my country of Canada. Sure, we're far from perfect, but at least I know if I contract some horrible illness or whatever, my family isn't going to suffer to pay the bills and neither will I. I'll get the proper help I need.

The plain truth is that recieving medical help is not a privelage for the people who are, by sheer chance, lucky enough to be born into a wealthy family. By the rool of the die the exact same person could've been born into poverty and suddenly refused care simply because they had no money. Are they less worthy of life simply because of this? Well, according to America, apparently so.

I really, REALLY hope this bill is passed.
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(wake up already! We are in a socialist and capitalist economy, we are a mix. So we are socialist. And you dont have to wait 5 months to see a doctor! Where the hell did you get that? Let me guess, fox. And this taxes are actually gonna help the majority of the people! I hate the fact that we are still thinking that the majority of the us can afford almost anything, reality check man we cant! Lets help them out! If we spend billions helping other nations, why cant we spend some on our own people?!)


(my god you are such a republican! You "faux lover")

Oh joy, another Obambi. Wonderful. Capitalism is better than Socialism. And for the record, I'm an independent, not a Republican. I form my opinion from facts, not a news network. Why don't you try it sometime.
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