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Old 08-09-2009, 07:59 AM   #1
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Many religous people argue that we are here because God (or some other higher power) made us. And they try to tell non-believers that if there is no God, then our life has no purpose.

Why do we have to have a purpose? Why can't we just exist?

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Many religous people argue that we are here because God (or some other higher power) made us. And they try to tell non-believers that if there is no God, then our life has no purpose.

Why do we have to have a purpose? Why can't we just exist?

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I like this question. We can just exist to exist in my opinion, but that is not enough for most people. It is human nature to see the answer to the infinate questions of WHY?, therefore most people seek to believe there is an answer to why we are here, hench the forming of religion in the first place. It answers the question why. That does not mean that religions are without reason and purpose, just that they are a human creation.
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I believe that I am here because of a drunken sexual escapade in the back of a car; I am here because that one sperm found that one egg. This is biologically miraculous enough for me without throwing "divine intervention" into the mix.

As for having a purpose, the very act of existing can be a purpose. I believe that one can find purposiveness and deep meaning in his/her life without working within a theological framework, and that this holds as much wonder and joy and value as living one's life according to religious belief/doctrine.

Anyone that would say a life has no purpose if one does not follow this religious belief/doctrine or another is making a very broad judgment indeed - nobody has the right to tell me my meaning is negated because I do not operate within a religious mindset. To say such a thing, to me, is hateful and disrespectful.

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i say let people beleive what they need to to live. If they beleive that without god you cannot live then let them beleive that. i on the other hand beleive that we could just live.
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I like this question. We can just exist to exist in my opinion, but that is not enough for most people. It is human nature to see the answer to the infinate questions of WHY?, therefore most people seek to believe there is an answer to why we are here, hench the forming of religion in the first place. It answers the question why. That does not mean that religions are without reason and purpose, just that they are a human creation.
nice.
as to the question WHY...its the beauty of life...finding reasons... piece by piece we try to solve the jigsaw puzzle of life...we may exist just for the sake of existence but then again...day by day we find our purpose for existence. we may not know it...accidental or done at will, everyone has a purpose for existence.
i have to agree with Sabra Kusabana, it is human nature to seek for answer to the infinite question WHY! maybe a thousand years from now we will be able to solve the mystery of where we truly came from (religion and all the other ideological battles as to where we came from will cease to exist hopefully) and from that we may find answers as to why the human race exist.
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we r here because god made us to be here, there iz a god, god made us 4 a specila purpose, before we leave we all have special instructions to our lives, im here 4 a purpose, ur here 4 a purpose
wat do yall think, do all agree?
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we r here because god made us to be here, there iz a god, god made us 4 a specila purpose, before we leave we all have special instructions to our lives, im here 4 a purpose, ur here 4 a purpose
wat do yall think, do all agree?
How do you know that "God" made you for a purpose? Did he tell you personally? What makes you so sure "God" didn't just make you because he was bored one day?

Why do i have to have a purpose? Why can i just not be here to be here? Is having a purpose for existing better than not having a purpose?

What if i don't want to have a purpose? What if i just want to be? Doesn't "God" give us free will? If we have free will why do we have to have a purpose?
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hmm idk.. im not religous....but the thing is..who made us?? hmm thats a good question
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hmm idk.. im not religous....but the thing is..who made us?? hmm thats a good question
What makes you think someone made us?
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cause life cannot be created without life. or something like that (gama said that) tho i dont believe that.
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cause life cannot be created without life. or something like that (gama said that) tho i dont believe that.
If that is true then how did life begin?
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If that is true then how did life begin?
according to him "god made it all happen". i do not believe that either.
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according to him "god made it all happen". i do not believe that either.
Who made god?
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he created himself. O.O i know i know. but that is what people believe.
tho i believe in the theory of evolution.
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he created himself. O.O i know i know. but that is what people believe.
tho i believe in the theory of evolution.
How can you create something if you do not exist?
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i am telling you man, religion and all that bogus thing is weird, they expect you believe something that is not quite possible.
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he created himself. O.O i know i know. but that is what people believe.
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i am telling you man, religion and all that bogus thing is weird, they expect you believe something that is not quite possible.
frankly the theory of evolution is just as unbeliveable as the creation, because for the theory of evolution was true, we should have little have man half ape creatures running around, or half reptile half bird, and etc, so that theory can be disproved as easily as the creation ^_^
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frankly the theory of evolution is just as unbeliveable as the creation, because for the theory of evolution was true, we should have little have man half ape creatures running around, or half reptile half bird, and etc, so that theory can be disproved as easily as the creation ^_^
With evolution comes extinction, so your thoery can be disproved equally as easily.
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frankly the theory of evolution is just as unbeliveable as the creation, because for the theory of evolution was true, we should have little have man half ape creatures running around, or half reptile half bird, and etc, so that theory can be disproved as easily as the creation ^_^
ever heard of the australopithecus? you know species go extinct men.
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