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Old 08-01-2013, 06:16 AM   #2681
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He shall forever be stuck with his mediocre pts feats
Well he should his Professor hype in terms of pure knowledge but that's all it.
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Old 08-01-2013, 06:58 AM   #2682
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How about knowing all the Jutsu of Konoha? If that was a true statement, he should be able to FTG or use some of Hashirama's jutsu, Rasengan, etc.

Kishimoto lied!
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How about knowing all the Jutsu of Konoha? If that was a true statement, he should be able to FTG or use some of Hashirama's jutsu, Rasengan, etc.

Kishimoto lied!
Having knowledge on all doesn't equate him using all of them necessarily.

Look at Tobi he knew practically at least nearly all jutsus he encountered.
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Old 08-17-2013, 03:12 PM   #2684
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Do you believe SM Kabuto is in a rightful spot? Think he should be higher. Higher than Muu or Danzo surely, though Danzo's Koto is always a pain to tier.
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Old 09-05-2013, 06:56 PM   #2685
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Naruto needs to get bumped up again-BM+SM=Haxx
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Sakura needs to be moved up a lot.
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Old 09-05-2013, 09:48 PM   #2687
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Above who? She's already kage level.

She definitely ain't taking out Shukaku Gaara or even Hiruzen
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Shukaku Gaara could get one shot before he even transforms. He doesn't just transform hence why Lee and Sasuke could handle him.

As I look at it the kage tier in general needs to be altered a bit.
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Old 09-05-2013, 11:15 PM   #2689
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Characters start in their strongest forms on this list.

And agreed about it needing alterations.
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Old 09-29-2013, 07:53 AM   #2690
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I hate the fact that orochimaru and kabuto are low on the list, but with edo tensei, they're gods!!! No. That's not right. Edo tensei is so messed up.

But its a good list.
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Old 09-30-2013, 02:46 PM   #2691
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I still want a higher Sasuke.
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Old 10-02-2013, 06:41 AM   #2692
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(Not in Order Per Tier)

God Tier +:
  • Obito (Juubi)
  • Kabuto (Impure World Summons)
  • Orochimaru (Impure World Summons)

God Tier:
  • Hashirama (Valley of the End)
  • Madara (Impure World)
  • Madara (Valley of the End)
  • Naruto (Sage Biju Mode)
  • Naruto (Biju Mode)
  • Tobi (Neo Pain Rikudo)
  • Nagato (w/ Biju Filled Gedo Mazo)
  • Minato (Impure World - Biju Mode)
Demi-God Tier:
  • Minato (Impure World - Kyuubi Control Mode)
  • Itachi (Impure World)
  • Sasuke (Eternal Mangekyou)
  • 6 Paths of Pain
  • Killer Bee
  • Naruto (Kyuubi Control Mode)
Legend Tier:
  • Naruto (Sage Mode)
  • Minato (Living)
  • Itachi (Living)
  • Sasuke (Mangekyou)
  • Tobirama
  • Izuna
  • Kakashi
  • Kisame
  • Jiriaya
  • Orochimaru
  • Gaara
Kage Tier:
  • Kakuzu
  • Sasori
  • Deidara
  • A
  • 3rd Raikage
  • 2nd Mizukage
  • 4th Kazekage
  • Tsunade
    Might Guy
  • Muu
    Danzo Shimura
  • Hiruzen
  • Kin-Gin Bros
  • Han
  • Yugito
  • Roushi
  • Fuu

Jonin Tier:
  • Kiba Inuzuka
    Kankuro
    Chiyo
    Kimimaro
    Hidan
    Mangetsu Hōzuki
    Suigetsu
    Jūgo
    Rock Lee
    Temari
    Choza Akimichi
    Sai
    Yamato
    Neji Hyūga
    Hiashi Hyuga
    PTS Naruto Uzumaki
    Hinata Hyūga
    Zabuza Momochi
    Haku
    Asuma Sarutobi
    PTS Naruto - OTK
    PTS Sasuke - CS 2
    Kidomaru
    Shikamaru Nara
    Jinpachi Munashi
    Ameyuri Ringo
    Kushimaru Kuriarare
    Jinin Akebino
    Fuguki Suikazan
Chunin Tier:
  • PTS Lee
    Pakura
    Gari
    Shino Aburame
    Shizune
    PTS Choji Akimichi
    Kurotsuchi
    Omoi
    Karui
    Tenten
    Kurenai Yūhi
    Jirobo
    Kotetsu Hagane & Izumo Kamizuki
    Sakon/Ukon
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Old 11-20-2013, 10:37 PM   #2693
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After this extremely extended fight I've only made slight amendments to my list

1) Juubito (obviously)
2) Edo Madara / Hashirama
3) Tobi / Naruto
4) Nagato / Itachi / Kabuto / Bee
5) Sasuke / Tobirama / Minato
6) Hiruzen / Third Raikage
7) Muu / Second Mizukage
8) Jiraiya / Sakumo / Shisui / Kakashi / Gai
9) Oro / Danzo / Hanzo / Izuna
10) Kages / High Tier Akatsuki / Kin-Gin Bros.
*11) Kitshuchi / Darui / Mifune / Low Tier Akatsuki / Jinchuuriki
*12) Highly Skilled Jonin (e.g. Asuma, Zabuza, etc.) / Kage Bodyguards (Kankuro, Choujuro, Ao, etc.)

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I think this is Hype ....! Is it?
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There is an issue.

The list isn't solely about power. Kabuto with ET summons is way up on the list. Tobirama, who also has ET summons is two tiers lower. So we downgrade Tobirama, because we don't see him use it, and I guess because he chose not too. So now we bring character choice into judging their power level...

Or we are giving Kabuto extra power, not for ET, but who he has available to raise from the dead, as opposed to Tobirama not having ninjas available of that caliber? So kabuto gets the credit for the skills the dead ninjas have as ETs, just just a general raise the dead power equal to Oro and Tobirama.
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There is an issue.

The list isn't solely about power. Kabuto with ET summons is way up on the list. Tobirama, who also has ET summons is two tiers lower. So we downgrade Tobirama, because we don't see him use it, and I guess because he chose not too. So now we bring character choice into judging their power level...

Or we are giving Kabuto extra power, not for ET, but who he has available to raise from the dead, as opposed to Tobirama not having ninjas available of that caliber? So kabuto gets the credit for the skills the dead ninjas have as ETs, just just a general raise the dead power equal to Oro and Tobirama.
Kabuto shows the feats of using ET on 20+ Shinobi, including Kages, Jinchiruuki, and Madara. Tobirama doesn't have the feats of using Edo Tensei, so he doesn't get the credit on the list.

Nothing can be done in the BGs without feat. Hype only goes so far. Just because Part 1 stated that Hiruzen was the strongest Kage, that doesn't necessarily make it true. Honestly, do you see full-power Hashirama or Minato falling to Hiruzen, given the feats?
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There is an issue.

The list isn't solely about power. Kabuto with ET summons is way up on the list. Tobirama, who also has ET summons is two tiers lower. So we downgrade Tobirama, because we don't see him use it, and I guess because he chose not too. So now we bring character choice into judging their power level...

Or we are giving Kabuto extra power, not for ET, but who he has available to raise from the dead, as opposed to Tobirama not having ninjas available of that caliber? So kabuto gets the credit for the skills the dead ninjas have as ETs, just just a general raise the dead power equal to Oro and Tobirama.
Its about power displayed aka feats.

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I feel a strong urge to tweek this list, but I feel it's ownership has passed to BMC, so I can't in good faith do it.

How would you feel about a rewrite?
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BMC1994 is the subject of legends and tales that shall be passed on for generations to come.BMC1994 is the subject of legends and tales that shall be passed on for generations to come.BMC1994 is the subject of legends and tales that shall be passed on for generations to come.BMC1994 is the subject of legends and tales that shall be passed on for generations to come.BMC1994 is the subject of legends and tales that shall be passed on for generations to come.BMC1994 is the subject of legends and tales that shall be passed on for generations to come.BMC1994 is the subject of legends and tales that shall be passed on for generations to come.BMC1994 is the subject of legends and tales that shall be passed on for generations to come.BMC1994 is the subject of legends and tales that shall be passed on for generations to come.BMC1994 is the subject of legends and tales that shall be passed on for generations to come.BMC1994 is the subject of legends and tales that shall be passed on for generations to come.BMC1994 is the subject of legends and tales that shall be passed on for generations to come.BMC1994 is the subject of legends and tales that shall be passed on for generations to come.

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