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Old 06-25-2013, 08:57 AM   #21
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Default Re: Speed Tier Debate

Tobirama is faster than hashirama he might not have that many feats but he still has his space-time ninjutsu so his shunshin is not has good has minato, but hashirama can't even teleport so i don't know why hashirama is higher than tobirama......
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Tobirama is faster than hashirama he might not have that many feats but he still has his space-time ninjutsu so his shunshin is not has good has minato, but hashirama can't even teleport so i don't know why hashirama is higher than tobirama......
Just having the jutsu doesn't equate to being fast. You need the natural reaction speed to go with it. That is why. Minato is a beast. Tobirama has nothing just a reference to the technique. Tobirama is not even worth mentioning until actually does something

As for Harishima are you kidding right? Konoha Chimp apparent ly gets butthurt when the feat is mentioned. But Harishima outrunning the bijuudama is clearly one of the greatest speed feats in the series. Minato speed is recognized because of that feat. Not because of ftg.
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KCM minato above everyone.

Minato above KCM naruto.

Dont care much about the rest.
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Hashi outran a Bijuu bomb? Chapter and page?
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imo, it doesn't really look like he 'outran' it. He ways already running away at that point. It looks like it was shot/thrown and he was just already running
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The bijuudama is shown chasing him . Plus considering the speed of it a minor head start doesn't matter.
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Oh yeah he must have gotten very far away to have time summon triple rashomon
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He was running already when the bomb was fired, and he was fast enough to turn around and use kuchiyose.
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It doesn't look like it's chasing him at all. It's one panel of the thing being shot at him and him noticing.

There is no outrunning, chasing or anything.

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It doesn't look like it's chasing him at all. It's one panel of the thing being shot at him and him noticing.

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There is nothing slow about Harishima. Like I said he is the reason Minato is impressive to me. That scene shows you how fast bijuudama can be. The fact minato can teleport them casually at point blank tells you how fast him and his ftg is.
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There is nothing slow about Harishima. Like I said he is the reason Minato is impressive to me. That scene shows you how fast bijuudama can be. The fact minato can teleport them casually at point blank tells you how fast him and his ftg is.
FTG is instant, iirc. Also Amaterasu is instant, there is no speed to it, it just appears, yet Raikage was able to dodge the flame that materializes on the spot by using pure speed.
Now, Minato is faster than Raikage who did that...you can get the picture of base Minato's speed. He's the fastest, no questions asked. Let us see what KCM Minato can do. I bet he'll be moving at FTL without FTG, just with pure speed.
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It doesn't look like it's chasing him at all. It's one panel of the thing being shot at him and him noticing.

There is no outrunning, chasing or anything.



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The panel shows him running while the bomb is in motion.That bomb went on trip. Even if didn't out run it which he did. Him countering it still makes him fast.
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Doesn't matter how you call him, he's moving at speed that's > TBB. That's what matters, lol.
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Sounds like butthurt to me. Might need some anal pain cream.
I'm sure you of all people would know where to buy that
But eh coming from the person who doesn't know the difference between punching speed and running speed I aint so butthurt.
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Yes but he consistently uses name Harishima. I don't know is it a pun or something like that?!!
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yet he was fast enough to notice it, run far away from it, turn around and use kuchiyose which requires 5 hand seals and blood.
Except for the fact that it doesn't show him doing any of those things.

The entire page shows him seeing it, stopping and summoning. For all everyone knows, he stopped where he already was.

'5 hand seals and blood'

No one in the history of this series has used hand seals for a summoning since the first summoning to happen in it.

It doesn't show him using any, therefore there isn't proof he did. He bit his thumb and high fived the ground. that's it

Distance in this entire chapter is completely ridiculous anyway. Except for the times when it's 'zoomed out' it looks like there no more than a couple hundred feet apart, when realistically, they are far more than that.

Hashirama didn't outrun sh!t, he saw it and summoned, that's it.
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Precisely Hashirama did not outrun a bijudama at all. It's just DL pulling 'feats' out his ass as per.
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