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Old 06-13-2013, 08:40 PM   #41
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Why does lightening even need feats? Lol its lightening. If it hits you then you're dead.
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Kakuzu VS Mei

I see people here saying "lava gg" and similar comments,well thats bs.Kakuzu is fast enough to dodge lava and hidden mist just gets blown away by wind mask.Hell i can even say kakuzu goes in for a blitz,mei doesn't have speed feats right?Doton hand to the neck.

Bottom line Kakuzu uses fire/wind combo and just wrecks Mei and the forest behind her,then if they are still pieces of the body he goes and takes the heart from her well endowed chest


Kakuzu VS Onoki

No debating here,dust release is just too powerfull on that scale.



Kakuzu VS Gaara

Gaara shields himself with his sand sphere and proceeds to chase kakuzu with his other sand,now the sand is faster then the masks,it would catch them and kill them.The only thing savind kakuzu could possibly be Doton: Domu But his masks get slaughtered anyway so he loses.


Kakuzu VS Ay

Kakuzu gets blitzed,nothing he can do.



Kakuzu VS Tsunade

Kakuzu kills tsunade with mask AOE spam,if tsunade closes in for a punch he uses Doton: Domu to protect himself,yes i know tsunade's punches penetrated susano'o BUT with Doton kakuzu will at least protect himself from the punch and not die,not that 1 punch would work anyway,especially when he is faster then tsunade.


Now,the thing i recently learned from topchef is that kakuzu can fly :3

Can someone confirm this as i think i never seen it before?

Also to "tsunade can't die" morons,well guess what?fire+wind mask obliterate her,im pretty sure she she can't pull herself back together from 1000 body pieces.(kakuzu can latter proceed to take the heart from another well endowed chest if there are still some body pieces left )
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Old 06-13-2013, 08:43 PM   #42
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Wow I agree with you. Great post. And no kakazu can not fly but one of his hearts has great hops
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Wow I agree with you. Great post. And no kakazu can not fly but one of his hearts has great hops
Kakuzu can glide I mean. He did it in long range mode against Naruto
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Wow I agree with you. Great post. And no kakazu can not fly but one of his hearts has great hops

Finally we agree on something,i feel complete lol.
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Old 06-14-2013, 06:28 AM   #45
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Kakuzu can glide I mean. He did it in long range mode against Naruto
Wasn't high enough that a ninja could jump high enough to get him.
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Old 06-14-2013, 10:46 AM   #46
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Wasn't high enough that a ninja could jump high enough to get him.
Doesnt mean he wasn't gliding, though. He was in the air for a while even after attacking the clone. Of course Naruto got him because he was staying still because he thought Naruto was dead.

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After seeing Choji and even Tenten get the best of Kakuzu, I'm less impressed with his abilities.
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After seeing Choji and even Tenten get the best of Kakuzu, I'm less impressed with his abilities.
You act as if they soloed. One guy being controlled and forced to act as a bishop vs a Darui's division and inoshikacho's division off panel isn't really a downplay.
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Valid.

I'm just saying. Kakuzu was a force to be reckoned with once upon a time. The war made him pretty fodder. It's sad.
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All the Akatsuki became fodder except for Itachi because we all know kishi loves his uchihas.

Deidara could have most likely soloed with c0 and c4 spams but he got fodderized by an extremely unimportant character.
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Kisame is excluded because he was never in the war second he had the honor of pushing Gai to the near max and Killer Bee.

And then choosing death voluntarily.

Nagato/Pain is obvious for exclusion.


Also you know who is a better Kishi golden boy than Itachi? Minato.
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Also you know who is a better Kishi golden boy than Itachi? Minato.
How so? He doesn't have hax, his s/t barrier doesn't really kill people, and so far his most powerful offensive weapon is rasengan which Naruto mastered PTS. Given how Naruto activated KCM without training for it, and like Naruto, Minato actually has access to the Kyuubi chakra, Kishi giving Minato KCM actually makes sense- no favoritism there as far as I can tell

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I know, I've seen lots of Raiton techniques, like Chidori senbon and the like, but it's a lot different comparing a generic lightning technique to one in which the user builds up chakra at the point of their hand and then bull rushes the opponent, sacrificing reaction abilities, all to maximize piercing potential.
Eh honestly, if we're talking pure science, "generic" lightning tech from Kakuzu is A LOT scarier than Sasuke's Chidori. Lightning by nature doesn't really pierce per se- electrical currents enter your body (more commonly through your feet since lightning usually hits the ground first) and spreads throughout your system frying your organs, eventually stopping your heart, whereas Sasuke's is more of a targeted strike- as in hitting a vital organ to kill. Plus the speed to which Kakuzu's lightning strikes should be FAR greater than Sasuke's Chidori attack since Sasuke's Chidori is limited to some extent by his own weight, speed and reaction skills. And as far as I can remember, Kakuzu actually shoots the damn tech at you making it more lethal. But I digress...
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How so? He doesn't have hax, his s/t barrier doesn't really kill people, and so far his most powerful offensive weapon is rasengan which Naruto mastered PTS. Given how Naruto activated KCM without training for it, and like Naruto, Minato actually has access to the Kyuubi chakra, Kishi giving Minato KCM actually makes sense- no favoritism there as far as I can tell



Eh honestly, if we're talking pure science, "generic" lightning tech from Kakuzu is A LOT scarier than Sasuke's Chidori. Lightning by nature doesn't really pierce per se- electrical currents enter your body (more commonly through your feet since lightning usually hits the ground first) and spreads throughout your system frying your organs, eventually stopping your heart, whereas Sasuke's is more of a targeted strike- as in hitting a vital organ to kill. Plus the speed to which Kakuzu's lightning strikes should be FAR greater than Sasuke's Chidori attack since Sasuke's Chidori is limited to some extent by his own weight, speed and reaction skills. And as far as I can remember, Kakuzu actually shoots the damn tech at you making it more lethal. But I digress...
I don't know why this dude is trying to downplay lightening calling it "generic," like I told him already, lightening is lightening and of it hits you then you're pretty much ****ed.
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^Dude normal humans are able to survive getting hit by lightning. Some even multiple times.

Why wouldnt our magic ninjas be able to do that to?
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^Dude normal humans are able to survive getting hit by lightning. Some even multiple times.

Why wouldnt our magic ninjas be able to do that to?
Because they're humans too and how often do people survive getting hit by lightening strong enough to pierce earth?
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^Dude normal humans are able to survive getting hit by lightning. Some even multiple times.

Why wouldnt our magic ninjas be able to do that to?
So can humans survive getting shot in the face

Also, most survival stories of lightning strikes are indirect where lightning hits the ground first then enters through the feet. A direct lightning strike is a lot more fatal and as far as I can remember, Kakuzu is feated to shoot the thing like a laser beam before getting intercepted by Raikiri (confirmed Kakashi is FTL lol).
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Any of the 5 elements could kill a human... but this is Narutoverse. Are you all saying that lightning is hands down the strongest element? I don't think so.
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That's not what we're implying at all. The point is that lightening in general, not just in Naruto, has a very high chance of killing humans if struck by it and this includes ninjas. Last time I checked ninjas in the Naruto verse were human too and they have organs and flesh just like us and lightening can indeed kill them and us.

BMC apparently thinks being struck by lightening is no biggie in general.
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Being struck by lightning is definitely life threatening, but even more so if a shiobi controls it with chakra. Lightning element is not equivalent to say, Sasuke's Kirin or the godly swordsmen weapon that controls lightning. Sasuke came close only due to a lot of prep from katon jutsu spam. Every other lightning attack is fodder compared to those two.
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Being struck by lightning is definitely life threatening, but even more so if a shiobi controls it with chakra. Lightning element is not equivalent to say, Sasuke's Kirin or the godly swordsmen weapon that controls lightning. Sasuke came close only due to a lot of prep from katon jutsu spam. Every other lightning attack is fodder compared to those two.
What swordsman lightening are you talking about and why is it godly?
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