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Old 06-14-2013, 02:14 PM   #41
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^doesnt matter, if you dont remember, konan put paperbombs in tobis kamui, but darui still wins, if konan had moses she'd win, but since not darui has a wider range of attacks, all konan has is......paper
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Speaking of speed... Konan reacted to Tobi's jutsu fast enough to make Tobi stop. Which is a feat we've only seen from the 4th Hokage, Mr. God-of-Speed.

Someone said before that Konan would have turned into paper when Tobi choked her if she was at all fast. I don't think that's true. Her Paper jutsu was spent. That's why the paper flower crumbled from her hair. She couldn't have turned into paper.
With this, we now know for certain that Konan can indeed separate into thousands of paper sheets. She can avoid Darui's attacks and prepare attacks against Darui during this time. Darui has not shown to have any large area of effect moves. There is literally no feats to back up the claim that Darui has any large sweeping area attacks that could destroy each and every sheet of paper in order to kill Konan. Also, the speed thing shows that Darui would not be able to speed blitz or even hit Konan easily.

Darui may have very good offensive attacks, probably better than Konan, but I don't see how he would win with these two arguments in play. He would not be capable of killing her with these two arguments in play.
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^doesnt matter, if you dont remember, konan put paperbombs in tobis kamui, but darui still wins, if konan had moses she'd win, but since not darui has a wider range of attacks, all konan has is......paper
Yes, because Darui without precog will react the same way as Obito with precog did.

You're saying that Konan loses for having only paper? loooool
Kakashi has over 1000 moves and he lost against Pain who used 2 moves.

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Yes, because Darui without precog will react the same way as Obito with precog did.

You're saying that Konan loses for having only paper? loooool
Kakashi has over 1000 moves and he lost against Pain who used 2 moves.

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actually im saying that her moves arent as powerful as pains, all she has is paper bombs which is basic ninja equipment, shikagami dance, and her signature smother. paper bombs Darui's gonna have a problem with im not gonna lie due to the aftersmoke of the explosions. shikagami dance, gale style, smother, water, lighting or gale style, the only way konan MIGHT win is if she uses the aftersmoke of the paperbombs to her advantage, other than that darui wins, if she gets close, water wall+emotion pulse=Victory
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Can't Konan do a paper clone feint and wrap and cut Darui around fully?

How do you harm paper?
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^water damage
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How does that help against paper logia that is 360 around him?
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^ok point, unless he uses a clone like every ninja uses =_= hey it worked against the kaku brothers
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Yes, and Darui was shown using thousands of clones?
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On the water jutsu thing, when Konan got soaked in oil Pein used a water jutsu to soak/clean her. That and we saw her fight in water in konoha.
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Pain isn't here, though.

Doesn't matter, she wins. Death from above.
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I just meant water jutsu's won't stop her
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If I recall, it was that giant crab water bubble beam that washed the oil off of Konan
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^ok point, unless he uses a clone like every ninja uses =_= hey it worked against the kaku brothers
Ginkaku and kinkaku couldnt split into maybe hundreds of tiny pieces of paper at will.

Also what zig and souret said on the whole water thing.
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I think Konan would win...I often think Konan would win.

Anyway my logic is that (omg dog in my face) Darui is restricted to the ground while konan is going to be more agile. She can still fire paper bombs all around where he tries to move without doing the sea of bombs. I didn't think Darui could exactly spam his techniques so I don't think he would successful take her down if she flew out of reach. Both of them work using more of their minds than spamming techniques and I think she could hold him off long enough.
Konan Fangurl perhaps

OHHHH WhAT KINDA DOG

Wow when is the last time someone died via paperbombs?!?!
Dauri can dodge them or counter the paperbomb with a storm release

Dauri does not need to spam his tech due to Laser Circus.
IT DOES NOT MISS!!! It does not need to be spamed

It is impossible for her to fly out of reach. She can not escape Laser Circus

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Yeah but he doesn't do it regually and would he really use that at the beginnning of a fight?
Wait...What?!?!
Dauri has never been in a 1v1 fight.

Plus if we are talking about Ic/OOc then Konan does not fly far out of reach at the start of battle.

Take Obito vs Konan for example. She went right towards him.

So we can not honeslty say what they will do at the start

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in the war yeah, but in a one on one battle it would be illogical to waste the chakra
It would be illogical for Konan to fly out in the sky especially when she does not do that before

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Speaking of speed... Konan reacted to Tobi's jutsu fast enough to make Tobi stop. Which is a feat we've only seen from the 4th Hokage, Mr. God-of-Speed.

Someone said before that Konan would have turned into paper when Tobi choked her if she was at all fast. I don't think that's true. Her Paper jutsu was spent. That's why the paper flower crumbled from her hair. She couldn't have turned into paper.
Konan never stopped Tobi. How did Konan react to Tobi's jutsu?
SHE COULD NOT REACT

That is why she used bombs. She cant react to phasing. Nobody can. Its just phasing it goes right through.
She constantly used paperbombs because she could not react to the phasing

while on the other hand

Minato carefully timed the attack. He did not spam and constantly use attacks.

Turning into paper is not end all to be all.

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And Obito has precog which Darui doesn't have.^
So? Obito was not really even trying at the start so.......
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With this, we now know for certain that Konan can indeed separate into thousands of paper sheets. She can avoid Darui's attacks and prepare attacks against Darui during this time. Darui has not shown to have any large area of effect moves. There is literally no feats to back up the claim that Darui has any large sweeping area attacks that could destroy each and every sheet of paper in order to kill Konan. Also, the speed thing shows that Darui would not be able to speed blitz or even hit Konan easily.

Darui may have very good offensive attacks, probably better than Konan, but I don't see how he would win with these two arguments in play. He would not be capable of killing her with these two arguments in play.
first of all its not thosands of sheets. its barely hundreds. And so what if she can separate. Its not like she is intangiable so she still can get hurt

how can she avoid Laser Circus
^Please someone answer this

Proof that Konan can separate faster than lighting!?! Seriously Laser Circus is fast and needs ONE hand seal. Konan does not separate instantly. And Why would Konan separate herself at the start?

Those arguments are flawed because she can't avoid Laser Circus. It is a guided attack

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Yes, because Darui without precog will react the same way as Obito with precog did.

You're saying that Konan loses for having only paper? loooool
Kakashi has over 1000 moves and he lost against Pain who used 2 moves.

Quality > Quantity
Tobi did not react to Konan.
EXCEPT!!!!!!!
For the time that he grabbed Konan's neck

The rest was him just fighting and being intanblibe not doing much. He did not do or need the sharigan much

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Can't Konan do a paper clone feint and wrap and cut Darui around fully?

How do you harm paper?
You guys do realize he would obiviously see the paper clone being formed. Plus the paper cloens are not insant. And Konan can not make that many paper clones.

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^water damage
LOL water? They live in the rain village. Water does not effect them







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Do happen to know PrinceofPeace?
How many lasers are we talking about already? Enough to hit every paper Konan can disperse into? I really don't think so.
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Default Re: Darui Vs Konan

Are you saying Konan can separate herself fast enough? You really think she can disperse herself that fast?
Faster than lighting??

Duari uses storm release with a single hand seal.
10 lasers appear immedietly after the hand seal
Not even the Gold n Sliver Bros could react in time

I think people are over-exaggerating Konan dispersing into paper
1-it's OOC for her to disperse herself at the start
2-It;s OOc for her to fly at the start of the battle


And when Konan disperse's I noticed something!
And that is you always see her face. When has she ever dispersed without seeing her face? Which means Dauri would just aim for her face.

Konan does not disperse herself very fast.

For proof look at when she fought Obito. NOT the anime though. Read the manga.
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