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Old 06-12-2013, 08:22 PM   #41
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It's sad how in the beginning of it all you were fun and challenging to debate with....but now your just pitiful
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Old 06-12-2013, 08:47 PM   #42
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You shouldn't try so hard on my spite threads because I'm doing this out of complete boredom
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smh...well Itachi wins

1-Hidan is not getting blood with Itachi speed
2-Itachi can damage Hidan from afar with katon
3-Itachi tricks and damages Hidan with clones
4-Itachi casts finger genjtusu on Hidan
5-Itachi is not going to sit and watch while Hidan does his ritual
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He can't win without those eyeballz
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Old 06-12-2013, 08:51 PM   #45
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^You do realize that 1-5 has NOTHING to do with eyeballs
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Old 06-12-2013, 08:52 PM   #46
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no m.s huh, i still say itachi wins, despite his m.s itachi still has a great arsenal of techinques, i say rednails technique GG
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Old 06-12-2013, 08:57 PM   #47
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He means NO sharigan at all. No basic sharigan. no visual genjutsu No MS. No susanoo no amaterasu. No 3 tomoe sharigan.

It's like he is fighting with normal base eyes.

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But Itachi still wins
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No he doesn't. He becomes another offereing to Jashin and all Uchiha fans will be butthurt and throwing grenades at Kishi.
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GS: like i said rednails techinique GG

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When Itachi attacks him he will wake Hidan from the gengutsu then Hidan proceeds to get his blood and game over.
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When Itachi attacks him he will wake Hidan from the gengutsu then Hidan proceeds to get his blood and game over.
really? itachi is a long range fighter with jutsu, how will hidan get his blood?, and dont forget this dude is a master of clones
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He gets his blood using his scythe and wire. Hidan is fast too. All I'm hearing on this thread is Itachi is so uber and fast but you forget Hidan is fast too and unpredictable. Exploding clones won't even touch Hidan. He's a mid range fighter with great reflexes,speed,and he's unpredictable as long as he has that scythe and cable.

If Itachi shoots a fireball then Hidan can just rush right through it suprising Itachi with his immortality and then tag him. It's not impossible even Sasuke injured his leg with a damn shuriken.

Itachi is not raptor jesus
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He gets his blood using his scythe and wire. Hidan is fast too. All I'm hearing on this thread is Itachi is so uber and fast but you forget Hidan is fast too and unpredictable. Exploding clones won't even touch Hidan. He's a mid range fighter with great reflexes,speed,and he's unpredictable as long as he has that scythe and cable.

If Itachi shoots a fireball then Hidan can just rush right through it suprising Itachi with his immortality and then tag him. It's not impossible even Sasuke injured his leg with a damn shuriken.

Itachi is not raptor jesus
LOL!!! at the last comment

anyway hidan has speed but he's not that fast, itachi can snap his wire if he throws his scythe leaving hidan open, he proceeds to attacking with clones and thus for, super explosion GG
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WE have given proof that Itachi is faster. He is AT LEAST on par with Saskue who is also faster than Hidan. Even you said they were both about equal. Givin the distance and their speed it wont be easy for Hidan to get blood. Especially with clones and paperbombs and katon. Itachi is not on Asuma's level

Lol how would exploding clones not touch hidan? idc cuz crow clones or shadow clones will. The clones would go towards him.

Itachi knows of his immortality

Itachi injured his leg because Itachi was losing eye sight. This is healthy Itachi.

Hidan is not a raptor either.

Itachi can just use his finger genjutsu. It will paralyze and stop Hidan from fighting.
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Itachi doesn't know crap about Hidan he was never partnered with him or met him in person. He never mentioned being immortal at their little Akatsuki hologram club meetings either.

Itachi loses because he can't put Hidan down with anything. Bomb clones will be dodged.

By keeping up with Sasuke you mean getting injured by a shuriken? Without his eyes Hidan will overwhelm him.
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When they died Kisame commented about being surprise that the zombie duo died. Everyone knew what he meant. Nobody was confused. Especially since Kisame and Itachi hang out. Thus by that term the "zombie duo" they know he is immortal. Plus Itachi has been surprised before but that did not stop him

he kept up with saskue better than hidan would. Plus Itahi was nearly blind.


smh...well Itachi wins

1-Hidan is not getting blood with Itachi speed
2-Itachi can damage Hidan from afar with katon
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4-Itachi casts finger genjtusu on Hidan
5-Itachi is not going to sit and watch while Hidan does his ritual
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Itachi is not physically fast.. he was only able to react quickly cause of Sharingan, hence his quick thinking and reacting image. On foot, Akatsuki members are all fast, especially Hidan. Orochimaru himself said that Itachi's impressive kunai training was due to the SHARINGAN. So I take it back about him being skilled; it's simply the sharingan that gives him such great insight. Hidan fights in close combat all the time, so he is far more experience than Itachi in that field, not to mention that his abilities compliment close range attacks.

[Edit] Hidan is obsessed with enduring pain, so no psychological damage will happen to him.. Hidan will laugh his pain off and wait for Itachi to run out of chakra Itachi has chakra limits.. he could never use too much of his "arsenal" in one fight. He has no destructive blows capable of immobilizing Hidan and without prep like Shikamaru, even his intelligence cannot counter Hidan. Unless you are saying that Shikamaru is dumber than Itachi?

Hidan will not lose by being outsmarted without PREP, and he can sustain anything Itachi throws at him without sharingan hax. Asuma needed WIND chakra blades to decapitate him. Itachi cannot decapitate or immobilize Hidan, especially when Shikamaru needed his ultimate surprise plot bind plus wind chakra for it. Hidan has shown great stamina feats unlike Itachi, so will wear Itachi out.

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Itachi is not physically fast.. he was only able to react quickly cause of Sharingan, hence his quick thinking and reacting image. On foot, Akatsuki members are all fast, especially Hidan. Orochimaru himself said that Itachi's impressive kunai training was due to the SHARINGAN. So I take it back about him being skilled; it's simply the sharingan that gives him such great insight. Hidan fights in close combat all the time, so he is far more experience than Itachi in that field, not to mention that his abilities compliment close range attacks.


First, you claim that Itachi is not physically fast, then you contradicted yourself by saying that all Akatsuki members are fast. By "Physical" speed, I assume you are talking about running speed or handseal weaving speed. The only thing that Itachi is slower in is reaction speed (which everyone seems to think makes him have the reaction speed of PTS Sakura). Sharingan simply allows him to use precognition to see the next actions of moving targets, not a set of stationary targets. He can likely do all of that without sharingan. Next, you begin to claim he is not skilled which is just ridiculous. He became chief of the ANBU black ops while at an extremely young age (in addition to all his other victories and one-shots of S-Rank and A-Rank ninja).

[Edit] Hidan is obsessed with enduring pain, so no psychological damage will happen to him.. Hidan will laugh his pain off and wait for Itachi to run out of chakra Itachi has chakra limits.. he could never use too much of his "arsenal" in one fight. He has no destructive blows capable of immobilizing Hidan and without prep like Shikamaru, even his intelligence cannot counter Hidan. Unless you are saying that Shikamaru is dumber than Itachi?
That's not the point of using finger genjutsu. It will simply be used to constrict him, so Itachi can chop his head off. He doesn't have some magical durability that makes him be able to withstand decapitation. Need proof? Why is it that he blocks explosive kunai that are coming toward him? With his magical durability, he should just take the brunt of the blast. The reason is that explosive kunai (something Itachi carries on his person) can still damage him and so can the exploding clone. Better yet, when Hidan blocks with his triple-bladed scythe, the cord is going to break like it did last time. Then bye bye to Hidan's impossible to dodge midrange attacks. You know, the ones that barely scratched a character slower than Itachi because he had to protect his teammates (if I'm not mistaken, Itachi doesn't have anyone to protect but himself.)

Hidan will not lose by being outsmarted without PREP, and he can sustain anything Itachi throws at him without sharingan hax. Asuma needed WIND chakra blades to decapitate him. Itachi cannot decapitate or immobilize Hidan, especially when Shikamaru needed his ultimate surprise plot bind plus wind chakra for it. Hidan has shown great stamina feats unlike Itachi, so will wear Itachi out.
Yeah, because Asuma and Shikamaru needed loads of prep to leave Hidan's head on the ground for Kakuzu to retrieve. While we're at it, Kakashi needed to study Hidan for years in advance to outsmart him with a simple, non-explosive clone while he was being surrounded as well by 2-3 of Kakuzu's masks. Once again, Hidan was nearly decapitated by a chunin. A chunin. Not a S-Rank shinobi who was once chief of ANBU black ops. Hidan has frequently dodged and blocked normal kunai and explosive kunai. Why would he do that unless he could be hurt by them? Why would he dodge Shikamaru's shadows if he thought he could resist anything he did? Honestly, I don't see this fight lasting long enough for stamina to be a factor.

Finger genjutsu puts Hidan under, then one of Itachi's shadow, crow, or exploding clones goes over and decapitates him. Hidan doesn't have any anti-genjutsu feats, and simply not looking at Itachi's finger is a poor, kindergarten-level argument that has never been achieved by anybody besides for Guy (which is still if-y). Itachi breaks the scythe's chord with explosive kunai or exploding clones, eliminating his mid-range offense. A lack of mid-range attacks means that it is not unreasonable to assume that Itachi can at least defend himself decently as all of Hidan's surprise attacks have gone out the window. Using clones, substitutions, and water and fire styles should give him enough space to eventually find a way to go in for the kill.

But Kanada, I apologize if it seems I'm singling you out. All I'm trying to say is that while Hidan is an underestimated character, I also think that people should stop giving him too much credit. I believe that while he is potentially dangerous opponent for many, he is a one-trick pony that isn't in the same league as any other S-Rank shinobi and many A-Rank shinobi. I'm sure the reason for this spite thread is to attempt to say Itachi is a one-trick pony, but with his clones, finger genjutsu, water and fire style attacks, handseal and movement speeds, shurikenjutsu, and intelligence, he's still a match for most shinobi if not the winner in MOST (at least 90%) cases.

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Right. He only managed to free Naruto and Killer Bee from Nagato's clutches, while simultaneously sticking kunai into the eyes of the outer path, all without Nagato reacting.
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Right. He only managed to free Naruto and Killer Bee from Nagato's clutches, while simultaneously sticking kunai into the eyes of the outer path, all without Nagato reacting.
That was "reaction timing", not physical foot speed. That was all mental insight which is what I said sharingan gives him.

@ Nixu Hyuga I disagree that Hidan is a one trick pony. His bloodlust technique isn't what makes him strong. He was mopping the floor with Asuma and Shikamaru before he went into that form. He goes into that mode only to finish off his opponents, but before that he fought Asuma very skilfully. He fought Asuma and Chiriku, two of the most powerful fire nation shinobi alone.. not to mention that he pushed Kakashi to his absolute limits WHICH in fact it was stated that Kakashi could only barely dodge thanks to his sharingan. That is enough proof that sharingan gave Kakashi the luxury of evasiveness. Kakuzu said it himself. Hidan is actually a very strong S rank shinobi even without his bloodlust since he pushed 3 of the strongest fire shinobi to their limits. His taijutsu prowess alone was enough to beat them, the immortality/bloodlust technique was just a bonus addition to make him Akatsuki worth and unbelievably over powered, but somehow people don't seem to get that just because he seems weak compared to Kakuzu. Hidan is a really good fighter even without his abilities, so everyone can just stop right now with the assumption that he is a one trick pony. In close range battle, Itachi will be equally as pressured as Kakashi at least, except that he has no sharingan for hax reflexes. Hidan even landed a surprise blow on Asuma, who was a close ranged fighting expert. Itachi is great, but his taijutsu is not equivalent to Hidan, Asuma or even Kakashi. Itachi isn't a god.. he can be pressured in battle too, especially without sharingan.
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