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Old 06-04-2013, 07:58 PM   #21
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Actually it was A who did that.

Chidori barely pierced A's armor.

My only statement is that Hydra's multiple heads could turn disadvantage against Raikage but anyway,
Chapter and page?

I thought the Hachibi mentioned the 3rd Raikage did it.
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Apparently Hiruzen was stronger than Ay if you want to look at ranks. Although if Hiruzen was in his prime he would have taken it easily. Oro doesn't need prep cause he is auto prep'd all the time... Nobody stomps.
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1 hour prep means:

Rashomon right of the bat and raikage is like "w-t-f" and goes around it while orochimaru summons Minato and puts a special seal in him,then he summons manda and goes inside his mouth.(ik this sounds wrong)


now the black person kage is screwed,he cannot hurt manda and has no sealing jutsu for minato.

Also orochimaru can focus on controlling minato 100% so yea,thats it.

So basically only a matter of time before A drops down either of minato or the fatique.

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Chapter and page?

I thought the Hachibi mentioned the 3rd Raikage did it.
3rd Raikage cut off all of his tails.

In Chapter 494 Page 2 I believe, A cut off the horn.
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If one hour prep is enough to get some good edos ready then oro probably has a chance. Other then that though I dont think hes suited for fighting someone with as much speed as Ay.
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Raikage is so overrated.. Orochimaru has such a large arsenal. If it is PRIME Oro before he lost his abilities to the shinigami then I would say that Oro easily takes this. Oro simply has too much up his sleeve and he fought the 4 tails Kyuubi for gods sake. Raikage fought Sasuke in Susano, big deal. I doubt Oro would need Edos for this fight.

On a side note, I still believe Hiruzen was the strongest Kage of his time since he was referred as the god of shinobi at his time. I don't believe this was hype. When you see someone like Raikage with hax blitz + armor he seems OP but nobody takes Hiruzen's capabilities into account.
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Raikage is so overrated.. Orochimaru has such a large arsenal. If it is PRIME Oro before he lost his abilities to the shinigami then I would say that Oro easily takes this. Oro simply has too much up his sleeve and he fought the 4 tails Kyuubi for gods sake. Raikage fought Sasuke in Susano, big deal. I doubt Oro would need Edos for this fight.

On a side note, I still believe Hiruzen was the strongest Kage of his time since he was referred as the god of shinobi at his time. I don't believe this was hype. When you see someone like Raikage with hax blitz + armor he seems OP but nobody takes Hiruzen's capabilities into account.
What large arsenal some snakes and a sword?

He didnt fight 4 tailed kyuubi he got ripped to shreads by 4 tailed kyuubi

A also fought KCM naruto , minato and madara having enough raw speed to keep up with the former 2 and enough raw strenght to topple the third one. Each one of them superior to 4 tailed kyuubi mainly because they can actually think.

Because we dont know hiruzens abilities.

A is overrated for a reason.
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The Raikage Dodged a jutsu as fast as amaterasu, and blitzed sharingan users with precog. Oro isnt getting off rashomon before A gets too him.

Also it doesnt that long for a person who kept up with near instant teleportation to get around rashomon (if he doesnt break through it with his raw strenght).
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I forgot about the 1hr prep for Orochimaru. Edo Tensei gg.
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The Raikage Dodged a jutsu as fast as amaterasu, and blitzed sharingan users with precog. Oro isnt getting off rashomon before A gets too him.

Also it doesnt that long for a person who kept up with near instant teleportation to get around rashomon (if he doesnt break through it with his raw strenght).

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Orochimaru summoned rashomon AFTER Kn4 fired TBB,so yea he could and WILL summoned it before raikage gets to him off 50m starting distance,no doubt about this.


Did you see how big rashomon is?and how STRONG it is?Please prove to me raikage has the raw power of TBB to break it.

Also,he will need at least 4-5 seconds at least to get around it,and thats overestimating him.The moment you see 3 gigantic gates your first though is "w-t-f is this" then u analyze it,then u go around it this would take raikage 4-5 seconds minimum,also a lot of people dodged amaterasu and survived it,its not some ridiculous feat.


The 4-5 seconds is enough to summon manda and go inside his mouth if there is 1h prep.


I am assuming u cannot use techniques before fight with prep right?If you CAN then this is not even worth debating and is a total stomp.


Bottom line while raikage goes around rashomon gates,manda is summoned and its over from there.Raikage has no way to hurt manda,oro can just hide inside manda's mouth and summon minato,then minato goes out and oro concentrates 100% on controlling him.I am claiming raikage has no chance if battle hits that stage.
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Yes Naruto fired the TBB before Oro drew blood but the distance between them was significant. Much larger than the standard BG distance so comparing them is futile.

Oro has nothing on Raikage. Raikage is too fast
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^ this is insignificant as long as you don't have any proof that raikage is faster then tbb,ill just ignore this until then.


Also the starting distance is 50m thats around the distance there was between oro and naruto isn't it?



OR he can avoid rashomon completely and just summon manda right off the bat,i doubt raikage can beat manda especially when the later can go underground.

Or are you claiming raikage will stomp oro from 50 meters?we all seen how fast orochimaru's summoning is.

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Why stop at Rashomon? Go to triple Rashomon!
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^ thats pretty much what i was reffering to this entire time,I was hoping people realized i was talking about triple rashomon...

Well my bad then,i was talking about triple rashomon all the time.Sorry for misunderstanding peeps.
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Orochimaru's Rahmons could sustain Kiba's ulti so I doubt that a punch could do it.

Then again, when Kakuzu punched down the Fire temple's Iron gate effortlessly, this could show that sheer force can break down a gate. Fire temple's gate was as strong as a gate comes, so I seriously doubt that the 3 Rashmons were stronger.

Now all is left to decide is if Raikage or Kakuzu have better strength capabilities. Kakuzu loses every time but let's not go there.
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^ wasn't it just an iron gate?The anime pretty much brought all feats to it right?


Im pretty sure TBB could demolish that gate,it did destroy triple rashomon too but you can't argue that raikage punches all 3 rashomons down?thats just bs.
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Raikage would just run around it. Why waste your time trying to break something when you can zip around it.

Now you can use Rashomon as means of buying some more time.
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My thoughts on this fight. Is it even possible to kill Orochimaru? I mean Ay could beat him, but kill'em? I don't know
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My thoughts on this fight. Is it even possible to kill Orochimaru? I mean Ay could beat him, but kill'em? I don't know
A would just have to outlast Orochimaru which he can. But Orochimaru lacks means to kill A too other than using Manda or Hydra.

The latter is certainly much better plus A's incredible speed.
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