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Old 05-11-2013, 08:50 PM   #1
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Distance: 50 meters with a 20 ft. stream of flowing river in the middle separating them.
Restrictions: No Edo hence no unlimited chakra for Itachi which means sharingan management VERY important for Itachi. No Jinchuriki Shukaku feats for Gaara.
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Bonus round: Winner takes on Kisame. No restrictions. Can Gaara or Itachi run the gauntlet?

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EDIT2: Changed distance to 50 meters or 164 ft.
EDIT3: Added manga knowledge.
EDIT4: Took away anime feats so no, Gaara can't shoot Itachi's eyes with bullets.
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Old 05-11-2013, 08:53 PM   #2
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I would say Itachi has this man. Gaara is good. but Imagine first Gaara vs Sasuke. itachi would kill Sasuke. He has Amatsaru. Perfect Sasunoo. The Mirror Shield. The Sword.

He is adapts or master in the Genjutsu.

ATM I soo not way for Gaara to win. While Itachi holds him off untill Izangi is ready or what ever he used on Kabuto.
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By the time one of them wins Kisame would rip them to shreds
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Hmmm.. I think Gaara takes this but I rather wait for some of the arguments. Just keep in mind since Itachi is non-edo, spamming high level sharingan is bad for his health.

PoP, by the way whoever wins gets his stamina, chakra, and 10min prep back against Kisame.

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Izanami not guaranteed to be effective against a righteous hero who has already conquered his own demons like Gaara has.
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Default Re: Itachi vs Gaara

well Garra could never beat Kisame....but Itachi has a much larger chance.

With the distance Garra should be able to safely go in the air then use a giant Sand Tsuanmi

Itachi cant do much that far away
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I think Gaara is on Sasuke's level, but not Itachi.

But an Uchiha without lightning element is a bad match up for Gaara either way.
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Gaara loses do to lack of sand.. Kisame is invalid as he is not in this and he would absorb the chakra in the sand.


Please explain how Gaara wins.
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i think itachi takes it via beat down. i don't see how gaara can compete vs susanno.
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Gaara loses do to lack of sand.. Kisame is invalid as he is not in this and he would absorb the chakra in the sand.


Please explain how Gaara wins.
Garra can create sand. Especially with distance. And Garra has all of his toolls and the area has gold.

Pts Garra made a tsuanami of sand without there being sand.

So how would Itachi beat Garra spaming Sand attacks above and on ground level
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In Gaara vs Kimmimaro, the sand was brutal. Kimmi had a much higher chance of defeating Gaara than Itachi. Every akatsuki member has weaknesses which is why Pain assigned certain members against certain jinchuuriki. Who else but Deidara could fight Gaara that easily? Who else but Sasori could infiltrate the sand so easily? Against Gaara, Itachi has nothing on him except incomplete Susano which can only guard one side thanks to the mirror. Gaara can attack from all sides.
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I say Itachi brutally murders Gaara with eyeballs, as usual.
Uchiha = auto win/idiocy/haxx


Itachi > Deidara > Gaara

Simple logic.

As for Kisame, Itachi vs. Kisame would be a hell of a fight.
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Gaara has no counter for Itachi, as Gaara has to physically touch Itachi to attack Itachi, Magical Eyeballs wins this rather easily.
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Gaara has no counter for Itachi, as Gaara has to physically touch Itachi to attack Itachi, Magical Eyeballs wins this rather easily.
lol wut?
you say Garra has not counter for Itachi but you dont explain what Itachi would even do?
how does Itachi surive Sand Tsuanmi?


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I say Itachi brutally murders Gaara with eyeballs, as usual.
Uchiha = auto win/idiocy/haxx


Itachi > Deidara > Gaara

Simple logic.

As for Kisame, Itachi vs. Kisame would be a hell of a fight.
In bold is false logic becaus Garra was protecting his village while fighting so it was not a fair fight
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Per OP, Itachi is not edo therefore his eyes will bleed and he will continue to lose stamina. Itachi's attacks will eventually yield diminishing returns.

Questions are, at long distance, can Gaara's shield dodge or withstand yasaka beads like it did C3. Can Susano'o break out of sand pyramid that in theory can be mixed with gold dust. I'm so confident in Gaara's abilities, I didn't even restrict Itachi at all. This is full on Itachi without being edo. Gaara is a beast.

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Gaara loses do to lack of sand.. Kisame is invalid as he is not in this and he would absorb the chakra in the sand.
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There is an abundance of sand in Amador County. I chose the location for the soil / sand / water and gold. Sand, soil, and gold are to Gaara's advantage. Water could be to Gaara's advantage too but Itachi can use suiton.

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I say Itachi brutally murders Gaara with eyeballs, as usual.
Uchiha = auto win/idiocy/haxx
Itachi > Deidara > Gaara
Simple logic.
As for Kisame, Itachi vs. Kisame would be a hell of a fight.
Powerscaling logic doesn't work in this case as PoP already explained. Gaara was protecting the whole village. One on one, Deidara vs Gaara would be a good battle though. Bombs could eventually wear down absolute defense.

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Gaara has no counter for Itachi, as Gaara has to physically touch Itachi to attack Itachi, Magical Eyeballs wins this rather easily.
Sand counters Amaterasu as already shown in the 5 Kage Summit. I already theorized in another thread that Amaterasu DOESN'T burn through earth. Ethereal its' origins may be but it doesn't burn through the ground it's placed. That's why Gaara was able to counter Sasuke's Amaterasu with ease. Don't forget it also blocked Madara's susano'o sword which could have the same spiritual properties as Amaterasu.

Genjutsu might be a bit tricky if Gaara cannot manipulate sand at a molecular level but he can. He can target the eyes using sand bullets or just overwhelm him with a sand Tsunami which will force Itachi to enter Susano'o.

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Itachi loses badly if Gaara has enough sand. He has no way of penetrating Gaara's defense.
Nor does he have Gaara's level of stamina. So that means he can't fight indefinitely with susanoo. Magic eyeballs vs a person with a brick wall to hide behind.
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I'm gonna say itachi and here's why. If they start off the battle standing 50 meters apart before gaara can completely get in the air itachi can put him in a finger genjutsu because even if he had knowledge he wouldn't be able to stop itachi from pointing at him.

Now the battle could be over there however lets say he has a way to break the genjutsu (Despite naruto with a larger chakra pool and taught by pervy sage couldn't.) itachi could have used that time to close some distance even if he couldn't move while gaara was in the genjutsu because breaking it requires him to pause and while he's trying to get up to fly itachi could have closed the distance and moved into makeyo.

There are two things gaara could do her. The first would be continue to try and fly up into the air which would be disastrous because before he could gain any real height itachi will jump at him and cast amerterutsu or tyusamaki if gaara's looking at him and any of those is instant game over if they hit. If he try's to block the ammy itachi goes into sasunno in the air and staps threw the sand because I douat that the sand would block the touska blade and even a tiny scratch would be enought to seal gaara (the only real reason he aimed center body is for a higher success rate for hitting the tarket.)

His other option would be to try to kill him with the sand as he got close. As looking into itachi's eye's is a instant win he would have to summon that eye of his to see him without being put into genjutsu. In the time he summons the eye he gets ammyed and when sand blocks touska. (Explained above why it works.) both options use a max of two makeyo techniques which won't kill him so he'll win.
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You do know that Gaara's sand is natureless? it isn't an earth chakra nature.
And all Itachi has to do is point at Gaara or use Tsukuyomi.
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Default Re: Itachi vs Gaara

I'm gonna say itachi and here's why. If they start off the battle standing 50 meters apart before gaara can completely get in the air itachi can put him in a finger genjutsu because even if he had knowledge he wouldn't be able to stop itachi from pointing at him.
his sand would move faster than itachi can raise a finger. The sand would instantly protect Garra and surround him to block finger.

Now the battle could be over there however lets say he has a way to break the genjutsu (Despite naruto with a larger chakra pool and taught by pervy sage couldn't.) itachi could have used that time to close some distance even if he couldn't move while gaara was in the genjutsu because breaking it requires him to pause and while he's trying to get up to fly itachi could have closed the distance and moved into makeyo.
Genjutsu is about intelligence not chakra pool. Garra has proven to be smarter then Naruto and have better chakra control plus with his rank he is more likely to break out of the genjutsu. Also your right Itachi would stand still just like he did when Naruto was in the genjutsu.

There are two things gaara could do her. The first would be continue to try and fly up into the air which would be disastrous because before he could gain any real height itachi will jump at him and cast amerterutsu or tyusamaki if gaara's looking at him and any of those is instant game over if they hit. If he try's to block the ammy itachi goes into sasunno in the air and staps threw the sand because I douat that the sand would block the touska blade and even a tiny scratch would be enought to seal gaara (the only real reason he aimed center body is for a higher success rate for hitting the tarket.)
The sand is faster than amaterasu. The sand would catch the flames and protect Garra. Garra knows not to make eye contact. Garra can move faster and better in the air on his sand than Itachi's hops. itachi can jump THAT well nor is Itachi that fast. Garra would just push sand at Itachi and force him back so the sword would not reach.

His other option would be to try to kill him with the sand as he got close. As looking into itachi's eye's is a instant win he would have to summon that eye of his to see him without being put into genjutsu. In the time he summons the eye he gets ammyed and when sand blocks touska. (Explained above why it works.) both options use a max of two makeyo techniques which won't kill him so he'll win.
With sensing sand he does not need eye contact



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You do know that Gaara's sand is natureless? it isn't an earth chakra nature.
And all Itachi has to do is point at Gaara or use Tsukuyomi.
There is a lot wrong with your argument no offense
1-The distance is too far so pointing or Tsukuyomi wont work
2-Garra knows not to make eye contact with Uchia
3-Sand being natureless does not matter at all
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