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Old 05-11-2013, 05:08 AM   #41
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This is in verse battle. Hype is legit if there is enough feats to support it. Keyword is support. The fact Tobirama was about to break out of edo tenseI control naturally is a testament to his power at his peak. Itachi needed shisui eye for such a feat. Also Sasuke, Danzo, and Kakashi shows you how powerful normal sharigans can be. Tobirama was slaughtering tge clan in war status against multiple uchiha. What Itachi did was an everyday thing for the senju in general.
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Old 05-11-2013, 05:54 AM   #42
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There was just as many who wanted war instead of peace. Madara had followers in the camp but for the most part they did nothing. One of those reasons was they weren't strong enough to do anything.

Not really everything Itachi knows is just knowledge passed on from Madara's ,and Izuna's time period. His Tsukiyomi being broken by Sasuke tells you what a high level skill sharigan user can do. Hell Danzo was rejecting ms with basic sharigan. Itachi was just the most talented Uchiha during his time period. That is not necessarily true either. Obito helped him slaughter them ,and Shisui could have been stronger. The ones from Madara's time period used the sharigan as a way of life everyday just to survive.

As for Susanoo the only person susanoo he is superior to is Sasuke's. That is not even necessarily the case anymore considering we haven't seen it's current form. Madara's is several times more powerful. Nothing says it's on another level from other Uchiha's. Izuna was to Madara like Sasuke is too Itachi. That means he would be well versed in his brothers techniques. Madara is the reason Itachi knows his techniques. So reason tells you that Izuna would have been just as much knowledge.
Proof of anyf ot that? Last time I checked Madara was completely shut down by his clan.

Well first off Itachi wasn't being completely serious.. And Sasuke isn't exactly the genjutsu guru.. Obito helped him.. yeah. But thtat coudl be for many reasons. He may not have even had susano'o or ammy yet. Maybe he needed a second person to keep other Uchiha from escaping while he raped them. There's also the factor of getting exhausted and needed some extra help.. it IS an entire clan.

Well aside from meteor(which is rinnegan) his Suasano'o is more or less the same as Madara's.. He has yasaka.. (you could say Maddy can spam it but hes also an ET on Hashi-roids..) but Itachi has totsuka and yata as well... Izuna hadnt even been shown using MS. They were aware of the dangers it presents.. because Madara hadnt been seen using it either until he got EMS iirc.
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Old 05-11-2013, 06:24 AM   #43
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Ch 624 pg 15 bottom panel explain how dominate the senju were compared to uchiha. The madara followers I cant find. But the chapter illustrates my point entirely.

Yeah Itachi held back but when it comes to genjutsu his feats and techniques never has been shown to be different from that fight. Also he clearly shown backlash effects from tsukiyomi being broken. As for ammy and susanoo. Danzo had in depth knowledge from his root days proves that fact.


Your last part is off. Both Izuna and Madara were both using Ms frequently. Itachi stated this fact during his fight with Sasuke. Though he was off on how Madara received ems. Izuna gave it to him when he was dying. As for susanoo. Madaras one stroke mountains per slash. Plus the speed is higher still if you take a look at his fight with Harishima. Pre steroid feats.Its attack power and it defense is naturally as high as yata mirror. Itachi's only differs from Sasukes slightly because its weaponry.
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This is in verse battle. Hype is legit if there is enough feats to support it. Keyword is support. The fact Tobirama was about to break out of edo tenseI control naturally is a testament to his power at his peak. Itachi needed shisui eye for such a feat. Also Sasuke, Danzo, and Kakashi shows you how powerful normal sharigans can be. Tobirama was slaughtering tge clan in war status against multiple uchiha. What Itachi did was an everyday thing for the senju in general.
Hype is not trustworthy like if you think izuna is on par with itachi then your drunk
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I only like to look at pictures in manga. The words confuses me.
We already knew that pop stop stating the obvious.
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So toirama beats Amaterasu or susanoo how?
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