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Old 03-31-2013, 12:47 PM   #21
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their wars against western Europe they proved masters of fortifying small towns and using them as beach heads for massive invasions..that takes resource management skills most western powers never developed for centuries- their force projection abilities were through the roof
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What?! their sea based engineering was hundreds of years ahead of what the rest of the world was capable of. what they pulled off in terms of navigation wasn't matched until colombus..centuries later. What they did in terms of warfare certainly was revolutionary



yes, they were so free so welcoming..so progressive the helots just wanted to be slaves that were at times mercilessly murdered for the lulz

no..they were a pack of xenophobic racist degenerates and they quickly became obsolete
They were the most progressive in terms of freedom and thought, they allowed there woman as much choice as the man had, no body else in the world at that time could say that, and everybody had slaves, they were a necessary evil at that time, and the Vikings were just a bunch of greedy, blood lusted people.
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To be on topic, Centurion got this, they had better tactics, a huge shield, and more strength. Who cares about the Horses, The Romans had the Turtle.
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-samurai train much much more that centurion
-To IWD what you said about the samurai bullying Japan and and not having enough field experience ma be applicable only for the late ages only, but even those can be compared to the lazy roman hiding behind their Hadrian walls, if i want to use your terms then centurions would be bloody imperial thieves who bullied villagers of different nations
-the samurai had better values they where to fight to death, roman soldier had to fight chained to prevent them from escaping
-samurai had better far range weapon, Katana is longer and sharper and more easily controlled than the roman sword and after all samurai had much better unarmed fighting technique
-the samurai had long time of civil wars against each others = good field experience
-the samurai armor is made of Iron, and cover larger area than that of the centurion
-the samurai spend time training, the centurion spend time watching, and brutally punishing his soldiers

let the roman soldier do this with his thick heavy stupid sword
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Do not insult my ancestors whose blood flow through my veins, whose conquests brought west, east and south to their knees before the might of the North. Vikings were among the mightiest warriors on earth: they slaughtered any opposition, from French knights to Turkish Mamluks to Beothuk natives and their longships dominated the seas of Europe for 300 years. They were not undisciplined because they used lightning-fast attacks with lots of civilian casualties, they were a well-organized fighting machine with the most mobile and well-trained force in Europe - and possibly, the world - at the time. They were not axe brutes who lived in huts: they had castles, cavalry, archers and discipline just like the best European forces of the time.
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Do not insult my ancestors whose blood flow through my veins, whose conquests brought west, east and south to their knees before the might of the North. Vikings were among the mightiest warriors on earth: they slaughtered any opposition, from French knights to Turkish Mamluks to Beothuk natives and their longships dominated the seas of Europe for 300 years. They were not undisciplined because they used lightning-fast attacks with lots of civilian casualties, they were a well-organized fighting machine with the most mobile and well-trained force in Europe - and possibly, the world - at the time. They were not axe brutes who lived in huts: they had castles, cavalry, archers and discipline just like the best European forces of the time.
Hey, you insulted mines, they would rape the women of every village they would pass by, at least the Mongols showed mercy by killing them.
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-samurai train much much more that centurion
-To IWD what you said about the samurai bullying Japan and and not having enough field experience ma be applicable only for the late ages only, but even those can be compared to the lazy roman hiding behind their Hadrian walls, if i want to use your terms then centurions would be bloody imperial thieves who bullied villagers of different nations
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-the samurai had long time of civil wars against each others = good field experience
-the samurai armor is made of Iron, and cover larger area than that of the centurion
-the samurai spend time training, the centurion spend time watching, and brutally punishing his soldiers

let the roman soldier do this with his thick heavy stupid sword
How does the Samurai brake through the turtle.
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Hey, you insulted mines, they would rape the women of every village they would pass by, at least the Mongols showed mercy by killing them.
Mongols did not kill innocents: they gave every city a choice to give up and be treated like equal citizens or resist and be annihilated. In my opinion the cities erased by Mongols chose their own fate.

I don't know what your sources for that are, but most Viking warlords would slaughter any warrior who raped a woman. It was not uncommon to kidnap women and bring them to Scandinavia, though, where they would be raised to become wives of Vikings. There is DNA traces of North American native women on Iceland dating back to the 900's, for example.
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Mongols did not kill innocents: they gave every city a choice to give up and be treated like equal citizens or resist and be annihilated. In my opinion the cities erased by Mongols chose their own fate.

I don't know what your sources for that are, but most Viking warlords would slaughter any warrior who raped a woman. It was not uncommon to kidnap women and bring them to Scandinavia, though, where they would be raised to become wives of Vikings. There is DNA traces of North American native women on Iceland dating back to the 900's, for example.
Look up "Eurasi" it was the one of the few.
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it is man to man fight there is no turtle
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What Samurai clan is it Ninja?
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I have not specified a clan, but the type of Samurai should be determined from his equipment: Do-maru armor, mounted on horseback, and armed with a katana, a naginata and a yumi.
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I was hoping you would say Odo lol I have so much dirt on the Odo.
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I'd give this fight to the centurion nine times out of ten. Most of shogun era Japan's weaponry was designed to combat opponents using little to no armor. The Romans, who mastered Greek combat strategy and perfected it, excelled at fighting quick lightly armored opponents. An experienced centurion would be able to fend off a mounted samurai.
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I'm sorry if people were offended about what I said about the Viking, I was just pointing out some of the negatives I've read and making it seem bigger then what it really was.
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-To IWD what you said about the samurai bullying Japan and and not having enough field experience ma be applicable only for the late ages only, but even those can be compared to the lazy roman hiding behind their Hadrian walls, if i want to use your terms then centurions would be bloody imperial thieves who bullied villagers of different nations
you do realize that Hadrians wall was one..frontier on one tiny island..on the back of a pretty massive empire..and that prior to building said wall Rome spent twenty years brutally slaughtering the British...that they routinely faced down many tribes along their frontiers and the ones they couldn't buy off they did in favt fight

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-the samurai had better values they where to fight to death,
the Samurai were a bunch of demented pedophiles who got off murdering and oppressing peasants when there was peace.

Roman soldiers did also fight to the death, the only major difference being they were smart about while Japan historically was very retarded about "giving ones life needlessly" and all
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roman soldier had to fight chained to prevent them from escaping
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the Katana is a horrible weapon and it sucks

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no the samurai had one large civil war then hundreds of years of peace, one Mongol invasion and a curbstomping by them and then thirty years of peace than civil war then peace...then the sengoku jidai period..and then stagnation

so y'know yer full of crap again

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Samurai spend time training, doing poetry, rehearsing tea ceremonies, learning accounting and then doing the martial stuff

Centurions actually do more training

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Mongols did not kill innocents:
...umm what?!

their body count was the highest of any war in human history up until world war two..they depopulated entire cities slaughter numerous tens of millions as a matter of foreign policy...simply to make a political point

like hell..they completely annihilated Baghdad..broke the middle easts culture completely and it still hasn't recovered - these people were so brutal it took the god damn nazi's to out shine them..holy crap

now if you mean vikings that's equally false everyone in eruope routinely engaged in the slaughtering of innocent people,. the main reason why the west rules the world today is because our ancestors were better at murder than everyone else

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They were the most progressive in terms of freedom and thought, they allowed there woman as much choice as the man had, no body else in the world at that time could say that, and everybody had slaves, they were a necessary evil at that time, and the Vikings were just a bunch of greedy, blood lusted people.
like hell they were, they were incredibly restrictive to anybody who wasn't spartan like the Samurai they openly promoted pedophilia in their ranks as a matter of training their own soldiers (while romans boinked anything that moved..they didn't do this and in fact discouraged it among their soldiers) the stuff they did to their helots was insane

as for the Vikings..ermm their political system was remarkably progressive, they had shield maidens and female warriors, their technology and military tactics were hundreds of years ahead of their time, their civilization wasn't backwards

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I'm sorry if people were offended about what I said about the Viking, I was just pointing out some of the negatives I've read and making it seem bigger then what it really was.
they were brutal but everyone was there the Vikings are stereotyped as dumb brutes like the mongols when in truth they were heads over heels above their peers by leagues

not that both societies weren't unfathomably brutal and cruel but that doesn't alter how advanced they were in some ways

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I'd give this fight to the centurion nine times out of ten. Most of shogun era Japan's weaponry was designed to combat opponents using little to no armor. The Romans, who mastered Greek combat strategy and perfected it, excelled at fighting quick lightly armored opponents. An experienced centurion would be able to fend off a mounted samurai.
to add to what BU says they also took the Greek fighting styles and advanced them but also created their own methods of war
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-Centurions actually do more training: how can you prove this,
-you do realize that Hadrians wall was one..frontier on one tiny island.:very true but this was part of many walls that was built all over Europe, a point that is considered first step to the collapse of the Roman empire
-the Katana is a horrible weapon and it sucks: national geographic says the reverse, I go with NG
-Japanese metallurgy epic fails: the Japanese sword are considered medieval nanotechnology
-like hell..they completely annihilated Baghdad.: true
-and it still hasn't recovered: thanks to W
- the main reason why the west rules the world today is because our ancestors were better at murder than everyone else: are proud about this ?
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you do realize that Hadrians wall was one..frontier on one tiny island..on the back of a pretty massive empire..and that prior to building said wall Rome spent twenty years brutally slaughtering the British...that they routinely faced down many tribes along their frontiers and the ones they couldn't buy off they did in favt fight



the Samurai were a bunch of demented pedophiles who got off murdering and oppressing peasants when there was peace.

Roman soldiers did also fight to the death, the only major difference being they were smart about while Japan historically was very retarded about "giving ones life needlessly" and all


..in prison brigades..


the Katana is a horrible weapon and it sucks



no the samurai had one large civil war then hundreds of years of peace, one Mongol invasion and a curbstomping by them and then thirty years of peace than civil war then peace...then the sengoku jidai period..and then stagnation

so y'know yer full of crap again



Japanese metallurgy epic fails



Samurai spend time training, doing poetry, rehearsing tea ceremonies, learning accounting and then doing the martial stuff

Centurions actually do more training



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...umm what?!

their body count was the highest of any war in human history up until world war two..they depopulated entire cities slaughter numerous tens of millions as a matter of foreign policy...simply to make a political point

like hell..they completely annihilated Baghdad..broke the middle easts culture completely and it still hasn't recovered - these people were so brutal it took the god damn nazi's to out shine them..holy crap

now if you mean vikings that's equally false everyone in eruope routinely engaged in the slaughtering of innocent people,. the main reason why the west rules the world today is because our ancestors were better at murder than everyone else



like hell they were, they were incredibly restrictive to anybody who wasn't spartan like the Samurai they openly promoted pedophilia in their ranks as a matter of training their own soldiers (while romans boinked anything that moved..they didn't do this and in fact discouraged it among their soldiers) the stuff they did to their helots was insane

as for the Vikings..ermm their political system was remarkably progressive, they had shield maidens and female warriors, their technology and military tactics were hundreds of years ahead of their time, their civilization wasn't backwards



they were brutal but everyone was there the Vikings are stereotyped as dumb brutes like the mongols when in truth they were heads over heels above their peers by leagues

not that both societies weren't unfathomably brutal and cruel but that doesn't alter how advanced they were in some ways



to add to what BU says they also took the Greek fighting styles and advanced them but also created their own methods of war
and Nobody else was different during the Ancient Era in that regard. But to admit, I never heard of the pedophilia in Sparta, (I always here the Athenians doing that, thank you for teaching me something.) It as a time of progress. There is no arguing about the Viking's might in battle and how smart they were with Troop management, but I never met someone who thought the Viking's were stupid.
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-Centurions actually do more training: how can you prove this,
-you do realize that Hadrians wall was one..frontier on one tiny island.:very true but this was part of many walls that was built all over Europe, a point that is considered first step to the collapse of the Roman empire
-the Katana is a horrible weapon and it sucks: national geographic says the reverse, I go with NG
-Japanese metallurgy epic fails: the Japanese sword are considered medieval nanotechnology
-like hell..they completely annihilated Baghdad.: true
-and it still hasn't recovered: thanks to W
- the main reason why the west rules the world today is because our ancestors were better at murder than everyone else: are proud about this ?
Your coming off as a weeaboo bro, how does the Katana defeat the Turtle?
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To Raiden: IWD said that that katana was terrible, National geographic states the reverse so i was asking why he considered katana terrible, it is long sharp and strong sword, it has multiple layers of steel with different different carbon concentration, I read an article about Nano technology in Japanese Sowrd ( but i couldnt find the reference ) i would be glad for any explanation.
and regarding the TURTLE: the fight we are discussing here is a man to man fight, one to one, ( simply cause centurion does not fight in groups ) so there is no turtle, a turtle is a constellation formed by a group of soldiers not single soldier
I also wanted an explanation about ( samurai/pedophilia )
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