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Old 03-29-2013, 10:29 AM   #41
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Haha Kakashi is too Skilled to be one shotted by Guy.

Kakashi>Guy intelligence
Weapons/Ninja tools = would cancel each other out.
Guy>Kakashi Taijutsu
Kakashi>Guy Genjutsu
Kakashi>Guy Ninjutsu

They would have a long grueling battle, they wouldn't go for one shots right from the beginning like people are saying, they have more class than that. Those that burst in barking like foolish Naruto die quickly if they aren't the main character. Lol Kakashi would escape Guy's gates if he blitzed by going underground until Guy lost Gates. Then he would come back up and Guy wouldn't do good. If you wanna say he spent too much time unveiling his Eye which Guy would probably allow like most characters do, that's such an argument.

Most fights to the death in this series are long ones where they use more jutsu and techniques than they ever do, to insult every thread with one shots is stupid and why battle threads are weak these days. Why not except them for the way the anime portrays bloodlust battles? Long grueling death match using a vast arsenal until one can't go any longer. That's more true to the Naruto series.

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Haha Kakashi is too Skilled to be one shotted by Guy.
which means nothing

Kakashi>Guy intelligence
So? How does being smart hidora? Yeah Kakahsi would use Kaumi on it but warping something that big would take time thus leavin Kakashi open for an attack
Weapons/Ninja tools = would cancel each other out.
Guy has better ninja tools cuz he has his nunchucks but again this means nothing. Why would they resort to tools? this is a battle of Kaumi vs Hidora
Guy>Kakashi Taijutsu
Kakashi>Guy Genjutsu
Kakashi>Guy Ninjutsu
The rest I agree

They would have a long grueling battle, they wouldn't go for one shots right from the beginning like people are saying, they have more class than that.
You dont know that. Guy is smart and he knows he would have to finish this in one shot.
Those that burst in barking like foolish Naruto die quickly if they aren't the main character. Lol Kakashi would escape Guy's gates if he blitzed by going underground until Guy lost Gates.
Guy does not need the gates to use Hidora
Then he would come back up and Guy wouldn't do good. If you wanna say he spent too much time unveiling his Eye which Guy would probably allow like most characters do, that's such an argument.
Overall Kakashi is better but that does not make Kakashi win. Guy can use Hidora and Kakashi will warp up but something that size would take time leaving Kakashi open for another hidroa attack.
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I do know this by being a fan since the beginning and Guy doesn't have to one shot to beat kakashi lol. Kakashi and him I think could beat each other back and forth I honestly believe 5/10 Kakashi and 5/10 Guy. Kamui can be used more than once and in quick succession if need be. With your logic I could say Kamui Hirodura and then directly afterward Kamui Guy. Over. I agree Guy has battle smarts. Like I said I like both characters and I'm for both in this discussion, or was until you tried to one side Guy. Don't forget it seems Kakashi can use Kamui about 4-6 times anymore, not 3.

Which him using it that much might be because he is so close to Obito. Lol. What you think Prince?

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Guy probably.
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Yeah maybe Guy would get it. or maybe Kakashi it's just their always portrayed as equals. They both the shi*. Lol.
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Haha Kakashi is too Skilled to be one shotted by Guy.

Kakashi>Guy intelligence
Weapons/Ninja tools = would cancel each other out.
Guy>Kakashi Taijutsu
Kakashi>Guy Genjutsu
Kakashi>Guy Ninjutsu

They would have a long grueling battle, they wouldn't go for one shots right from the beginning like people are saying, they have more class than that. Those that burst in barking like foolish Naruto die quickly if they aren't the main character. Lol Kakashi would escape Guy's gates if he blitzed by going underground until Guy lost Gates. Then he would come back up and Guy wouldn't do good. If you wanna say he spent too much time unveiling his Eye which Guy would probably allow like most characters do, that's such an argument.

Most fights to the death in this series are long ones where they use more jutsu and techniques than they ever do, to insult every thread with one shots is stupid and why battle threads are weak these days. Why not except them for the way the anime portrays bloodlust battles? Long grueling death match using a vast arsenal until one can't go any longer. That's more true to the Naruto series.
First of all since we use the manga (unless OP specifies) because that is the primarairy canon.

We are debating who wins here, not how long the battle goes on.

The fight isnt over in a second people are simply saying what will win the fight for their chosen character.

Which would be mostly hirudora/kamui in this thread. Doesnt have to mean the battle just lasts 3 seconds. Its just saying what will win the fight. Although i agree that some times some explanation would be nice.

Kakashi kamui has improved over time. Now being able to teleport persons , and even pinpoint small objects like kunai, or fast moving objects like sasuke susanoo arrow.

The fight he lately been in involved probably the fastest characters alive in the narutoverse naruto and tobi and kakashi managed to hold his own and not get blitzed all the time in that fight. and he even managed to kamui himself away from tobi dimension meaning he can kamui entire persons if the situation calls for it.

Even if gai pulls out hirudora , kakashi doton jutsu can potentially protect him from it since i have never seen any extensive ground damage from hirudora.

Thats the reason i belief kakashi should be able to handle gais speed when trying to use kamui.

Kakashi has a potential defense against gai while gai doesnt have a defense against kakashis kamui.

Kamui , with kakashi shadow clones, lightning clones(which pretty much garantees an opening for an garanteed ticket to kamui land), earth walls and other tricks give win the advantage in this fight and most likely to win.

Not to mention genjutsu , it either requires gai to only look at kakashis feet giving limiting him sight, or be genjutsu'd and drilled by a chidori.

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Yeah maybe Guy would get it. or maybe Kakashi it's just their always portrayed as equals. They both the shi*. Lol.
They cant both win unless your saying tie?
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Yeah I get that man thanks just I wish people would debate in detail, this isn't preschool. Lol. You get where I'm coming from right? Fine making me choose huh? Kakashi 6/10
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Yeah I get that man thanks just I wish people would debate in detail, this isn't preschool. Lol. You get where I'm coming from right? Fine making me choose huh? Kakashi 6/10
I do, debates would be alot more intresting if some people just used their brain. I mean it doesnt even require reading the rules to make to nice coherent 'no-bs' post here.

I mean just saying a characters name isnt a debate
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I agree man and I gave you my answer now lol. Hard choice for me personally but I have to go with Kakashi. Also I try to respect both characters in the debate, in every debate. Sometimes I take the side of the character that I wasn't going to for a while just to debate what they could do if they are getting bashed
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PoP, you're saying all this stuff about PTS Kakashi in Kakashi vs. Darui. Apply it here. Kakashi can just go underground to dodge everything guy has. Isn't that right?
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Haha now this ^ I agree with. That's what I said about Kakashi against his logic of Guy beating the speed of Kamui and that Kakashi would get hit while raising his headband lol. I had to resort to showing him what he is using in that thread your mentioning. Kakashi hides underground while Gates are on lol.
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[QUOTE=Storm_istheman;6605448] Kamui can be used more than once and in quick succession if need be.
But the bigger the object the more time is needed to kaumi it. Hidora is HUGE which gives Guy enough time to get behind Kakashi and hit him to finish off Kakashi
With your logic I could say Kamui Hirodura and then directly afterward Kamui Guy.
Too bad it would take a few seconds to Kaumi all of hidora before he can react to Guy
Over. I agree Guy has battle smarts. Like I said I like both characters and I'm for both in this discussion, or was until you tried to one side Guy. Don't forget it seems Kakashi can use Kamui about 4-6 times anymore, not 3.
He only used it quickly on small things or things that wanted to be kaumi'd
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It would take time for Kakashi to warp something as big and powerful as Hidora so Kakashi can not react to guy in time
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PoP, you're saying all this stuff about PTS Kakashi in Kakashi vs. Darui. Apply it here. Kakashi can just go underground to dodge everything guy has. Isn't that right?
Re-read the chp Guy used Hidrora on Madara. It was so powerful and large that it hit the ground and tore up the ground as well. So going underground is not going to help Kakashi at all.

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Haha that's funny this thread will go on forever if we keep this up POP. Guy would pause from using Hirodura in base because it takes energy therefore canceling out your claim that he could run right after Kakashi afterward. The rest I might agree with but idk since it doesn't seem kakashi took too long to Kamui a tailed beast.
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Guy does not pause? Where is your proof? Even IF he did pause that is because he was tired but off the bat he is healthy and would not pause.

that is because Bee wanted to be Kaumi'd and KB was not an attack plus that was off panel

Face it Bro Guy is FINALLY able to defeat Kakashi
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Substitution/Clone for Kakashi. Lightning Blade/Kamui GG. No need to hide underground, or battle Guy face to face.

That's if all my logic doesn't work. Then we can resort to that. Or how 'bout:
Kakashi uses genjutsu on Guy. Kamui/Lightning Blade GG.

Sounds like your logic now, PoP.
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Guy knows how to fight the SHaringan.

But Guys weakness is he has to be up close.

Speed means nothing when the eye tells Kakashi as speed is slown down.
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Substitution/Clone for Kakashi.
what does a clone do? subsittue with what?
Lightning Blade/
so Kakashi will run into Hidora??
Kamui GG.
We already expalined why this fails! Kaumi takes to long and leaves him open
No need to hide underground, or battle Guy face to face.
yeah cuz Kakashi would lose
That's if all my logic doesn't work. Then we can resort to that. Or how 'bout:
Kakashi uses genjutsu on Guy.
Kakashi is to far to use genjutus plus Guy would not make eye contact
Kamui/Lightning Blade GG.
already explained why this fails


Sounds like your logic now, PoP.
hahahahahaha no not at all cuz I never said Subsitution
@SS-so you post on this thread but not Danzo vs Naruto...I see how it is lolz

And its called HIDORA Guy does not have to be up close to fight
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Default Re: Might Guy Vs Kakashi

Guy can I originally posted 50/50 chance but people wanted me to choose and when I seem you supporting Guy so hard I chose to back Kakashi. PoP. I chose 6/10 Kakashi wins.
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