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Old 03-26-2013, 07:51 PM   #21
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What if the "mist ninja" were zetsu clones!?what if madara set up everything to make obito do his bidding?Remember how Zetsu came and said "kakashi and rin are in trouble"

He knew obito would rush to help them,I can't accept the fact that it was all a coincidence that zetsu came to tell obito his teammates are fighting mist ninja there accidently,why was zetsu even on guard?i doubt they feared someone will be looking for their hideout when everybody believes madara is dead.

(don't tell me its a coincidence kakashi and rin are fighting mist ninja in same spot they fought in 3rd shinobi war,especially when Hidden Mist and tenchi bridge are on different sides of the world am i wrong?)

And as Zetsu is not possible to recongnize with his transformation on kakashi mistaken them for mist ninja and couldn't let rin fall in their hands possibly,what if everything was a set up?Obito would really look like a fool and him realizing it was all a set up could possibly make him turn good again...


Madara probably had zetsu "record" the fight and report to him before obito comes back.

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Old 03-26-2013, 10:21 PM   #22
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Yeah, that's pretty much what I said. Although mrsticky is right. Rin would be more interesting as a character if she were just a traitor and Kakashi really killed her. But somehow I doubt it. It was probably a setup. The reason I think that is because Kishi spent so much time on Obito's flashback to that moment, but Kakashi just gave a shocked expression to hearing about it from Obito -- like maybe Obito was cracked and telling him something that never happened. "You let Rin die," he said, which if the translation wasn't bogus, is a weird way to put it. I realize there wasn't much time, but we are talking about Kishi here, king of inappropriate combat tableaus.
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TOBITO.

It was difficult to not write off such theories when so many were
about stuff like Obito and Tobi's hair looks alike, or they both have
sharingan in the same eye.
Well, the thing I didn't understand about that scene is that Obito's right side of his face was crushed, so how did he still have his Sharingan?

:/ I guess Kishi just let us interpret that however we wanted since we couldn't see his face there, we just assumed it was crushed because we couldn't see it, thus allowing him to do whatever he wanted with Obito later down the line.
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Well, the thing I didn't understand about that scene is that Obito's right side of his face was crushed, so how did he still have his Sharingan?

:/ I guess Kishi just let us interpret that however we wanted since we couldn't see his face there, we just assumed it was crushed because we couldn't see it, thus allowing him to do whatever he wanted with Obito later down the line.
I never did like Obito's sharingan surviving. Way too convenient.
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Honestly, everything about the Obito/Madara/Itachi triangle of evil is pretty convenient. Also, please tell me that I'm not the only one who finds it strange that Kishi seems to want us to sympathize with genocidal maniacs.
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Honestly, everything about the Obito/Madara/Itachi triangle of evil is pretty convenient. Also, please tell me that I'm not the only one who finds it strange that Kishi seems to want us to sympathize with genocidal maniacs.
I second this notion, so... You're not alone.
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Honestly, everything about the Obito/Madara/Itachi triangle of evil is pretty convenient. Also, please tell me that I'm not the only one who finds it strange that Kishi seems to want us to sympathize with genocidal maniacs.
You do have a point there.

I think Kishi is trying to make his "villains" sympathetic to the audience
so that we feel more conflicted when they fight the "good guys".
It's like they all have these tragic back stories that most people
reading Naruto would have no experience with and would thus
be challenged by. Sasuke is a perfect example of this.
Though I'm not sure Kishi allways is able to pull this off.
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I second this notion, so... You're not alone.
Good. With all the Itachi fans around, I was beginning to wonder.

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You do have a point there.

I think Kishi is trying to make his "villains" sympathetic to the audience
so that we feel more conflicted when they fight the "good guys".
It's like they all have these tragic back stories that most people
reading Naruto would have no experience with and would thus
be challenged by. Sasuke is a perfect example of this.
Though I'm not sure Kishi allways is able to pull this off.
I just think he tries too hard. I don't actually mind Itachi's story, just Kishi's desperate need to make us "see his side." Itachi killing an entire clan (nevermind whose) simply to see if he could isn't worse than him killing his family to save a village led by a meritocracy of corrupt murderers. I thought the entire Uchiha "thing" was working as a basis for villainy, until Kishi started poorly motivating psychopaths and then kept trying to get us to sympathize with them. He's still doing it! Exhibit A: Madara.
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i loved when itachi had just killed the uchiha supposedly to measure his vessel.
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i loved when itachi had just killed the uchiha supposedly to measure his vessel.
That was never his purpose.
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Good. With all the Itachi fans around, I was beginning to wonder.



I just think he tries too hard. I don't actually mind Itachi's story, just Kishi's desperate need to make us "see his side." Itachi killing an entire clan (nevermind whose) simply to see if he could isn't worse than him killing his family to save a village led by a meritocracy of corrupt murderers. I thought the entire Uchiha "thing" was working as a basis for villainy, until Kishi started poorly motivating psychopaths and then kept trying to get us to sympathize with them. He's still doing it! Exhibit A: Madara.

I honestly never thought about that but that's true.
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That was never his purpose.
isn't that what he had told sasuke when sasuke discovered his parents dead?
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