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Old 02-08-2013, 11:46 PM   #21
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No point in the pic whatsoever :P
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I don't think it's exactly the same. They spent their whole lives fighting each other. They weren't part of a village or going to an academy together, training on the same team etc. They were rivals first off and forever. Hashirama obviously tried to end the fighting but that definitely doesn't mean they ever considered themselves friends. They respect each other (which Sasuke does not respect Naruto) and despise each other.
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^ you're right in many cases...seeing Madara was completely independently fighting off Senju until he had the opportunity to meet Hashirama... I thought of that too...but knowing kishi and him trying to build a relationship between every good and bad guy...it's not difficult for him to retcon this by simply lying to us that they knew each other earlier...

I don't think Hashirama despises Madara at all... He's so much like Naruto...
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Old 02-11-2013, 02:23 PM   #24
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Well, it has been stated that Sasuke = Madara and Naruto = Hashirama when it comes to the Will of Fire and the Curse of Hatred, but the other part might be true.
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Old 02-11-2013, 02:55 PM   #25
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as of now...the only thing i'm looking forward to is Madara's face when he sees hashi... it'd be the most priceless since Deidara's vs itachi!...
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He's gonna start shatting bricks lmao!

But things will be differently because now Madara has Rinnegan.
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Hashirama despising Madara is probably a little bit strong. After the last chapter, seeing him yell at Tobirama about persecuting the Uchiha, he probably wanted to help Madara, or at least work with him, but he definitely didn't have redeeming faith that Naruto has in Sasuke. And I think that's the point, if he had the same "power" as Naruto, we probably wouldn't even be here in the story because this situation would have been defused decades ago.
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^ I would agree... that Hashi may have tried to redeem Madara...but did he fail because he didn't have Naruto's spirit or simply because Madara was just too stubborn, even more than sasuke... So far Naruto with all his TnJ power hasn't redeemed Sasuke yet...
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Madara is going to shat bricks.
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Old 02-20-2013, 01:56 AM   #30
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ow well...seems like they had a childhood experience after all... I knew kishi would go for this!
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Kid Hashirama vs. Kid Madara? Anyone? :3
Hashirama creating small flowers and Madara missing with knives. xD
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I like the idea, but it kind of violates the premise we were given! We are told that ninja clan's through most of history were like mercenary groups hired to fight! It would make no sense for them to have land anywhere near each other due to the fact that they could be enemies (depending on who hired them)....
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Well, the clans were big and probably spread out. So some of the people that may have been less central to the drive of the clans might've lived near others. Or only a few individuals may have actually "hated" people in the other clans. The rest knew that being a ninja was a job and they only fought when they got paid.
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@silent this was before the first ninja war and they're kind like cousin probably where at peace and who knows the could as close to the sage as naruto and sasuke are to them
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Thought it couldn't have been possible because the two clans always fought each other, so how could they have ever become friends, but it's true! Let's see if kishi gives us a good enough story between the two. Have been dying to see their background.

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unless,, they met at a neutral ground... somewhere inbetween the two villages/clan areas... their parents being enemies and such... somewhat a secret friendship...

where the hell was Izuna when madara was throwing stones?
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...Sasuke & Naruto.

What if Hashi doesn't hate Madara at all...

What if he tried so many times to save Madara from the evil path

What if they once had a childhood experience or friendship?

How'd you feel... is this possible at all...


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^ hmm... so you're saying their "friendship" was hinted long ago... ? even so, i completely forgot that comment... i hope kishi has half the memory you got
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I see. Very good quote,don't even remember it. I think it could be possible that we'll see 1) a Naruto v Sasuke fight, a Madara v Hashirama fight, AND a Kakashi v Obito fight by the end of this, OR 2) the three Uchihas and the juubi v The two strongest konoha ninja to exist (that's if we can agree that Naruto has now surpassed Jiraiya and Minato) and Kakashi. Five god-like shinobi on the battleground fighting.

1) Naruto vs Sasuke fight first. Naruto and Sasuke have equal power, and after a long and tough battle between the two along with their chakra reserves running low, they go for one last blast to take the other out.... Now remember how kishi has always separated Naruto and Sasuke from the very start. They always used to not get along. Even as team members they couldn't. Then they begin to understand each other a little, just before Sasuke leaves the village. Then when they are on the mission to retrieve Sasuke, Naruto and Sasuke both connect when they go for their rasengan/chidori. Now here is where my point is. Sasuke says to Naruto that if two ninja are of a high enough level of power, even an exchange of fists would allow them to see inside themselves and fully understand one another. During the fight on the sasuke retrieval mission, they connect very slightly and they get a slight glimpse of each other. Then in shippuden, they connect again during their fight directly after Danzo got killed. This time, their powers had greatly improved, and exceeded the limits of most normal shinobi. They connected much better this time, and got to understand each other even more. By the look on Sasuke's face, we could see that there was a connection made between the two. I will imagine now that during this last Naruto v Sasuke fight, we will see the same thing happen again, but since their level of power are both at or beyond Kage level, they will fully connect this time, allowing them to fully understand each other. This will cause Sasuke to see through the hatred of the uchiha clan, and change his ways. Then Hashirama will be inspired by Naruto's strong will for his beloved friend, and him and Madara eventually resolve their hatred between each other, after a long fight (with Madara being disgusted with Sasuke). Kakashi will somehow also TnJ Obito or something, I don't really have any ideas how the connection will spark there.

2) The 6 fight together ending in all of them dying, including the Juubi. Peace is restored because of Naruto (I'm saying him because he was the child of prophecy), but in the end he dies along with all the Uchiha hatred. The three (kakashi, naruto, and hashirama) are then remembered forever for giving their lives to save the world... blah blah

Just my predictions.. Probably won't happen
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