Naruto Tier List - Group Debate

[PrinceofPeace]

PTs shino and kiba and tenten should be added. Are we addin PTs Kakashi and sand siblings?

Why is lee below neji and others? Should we have base lee and gated lee? What about pulled up choji?




I still don't get how hidan is above roshi. A volcano does more damage than hidan. And roshi has a good bond with his bijju. And son can do more damage than hidan. Hidan should be one above asuma at best

[BMC1994]

Shino, ten ten and kiba have next to no difference to their pts counter parts where as people like hinata sakura and shikamaru have displayed new jutsu and overal improvements.

its just temporary still arranging things.

Choji had more brute strenght then kiba and can become giant, the sheer size alone would be too much for most genin.

We dont know how well roshi could use son gokus powers Thats why hes lower (same for the other jinchurikis). Anyway judging from his lava armor he a close combat fighter too which means blood which means hidan wins.

What part of hidan is immortal and can auto kill with one hit dont you get?

He can draw blood from everyone below him perhaps maybe juugo in CS2.

[PrinceofPeace]

Hidan can not get blood easily. Just dodge te sword or keep your distance.

How would he get blood from puppet masters? Hidan my be immortal but he is still weak to poison. The 10 puppets or being trapped with a puppet would stop hidan

Also sugeitsu can drown hidan... How would hidan even get blood from sugeitsu

[Uchiha Sora]

I don't think adding PTS characters is necessary. But PTS Naruto and Sasuke should be Chunin tier. Naruto has Gambunta p, Sasuke could react to KN1. PTS Choji would roflstomp most of Chuunin tier at his best(butterfly mode and Super expansion). I think It's better if PTS are left out

I like how PTS Gaara could be high in the jonin tier

[PrinceofPeace]

Originally Posted by TheBlackChidori

Kage Tier
Konan
Kin-Gin Bros
Hiruzen Sarutobi
Kakuzu
Deidara
Sasori
Fourth Kazekage
Third Kazekage
Mifune
Kitsuchi
Mei Terumi
storm style would track her down.
Hanzo
all he has is posion....water style washes Posion away. Hanzo could not avoid lighting style either
Tobirama Senju
black lighting should beat water style. Plus Darui has better KNOWN feats
Darui


Jonin Tier
Hidan
Roshi - Yonbi
Hidan's sword does not pierce lava
Mangetsu Hōzuki
Suigetsu
do these guys even have blood?
Kimimaro
spam of bone bullets or bone forest beats Hidan. Hidan can not cut though bones
Chiyo
Chiyo beats Hidan cuz of what Kankuro can do....but she would do it better. She binded Sasori's tail so the same result for Hidan. Posion,bombs, distance, 10 puppets=win for Chiyio
Jūgo
Sugeitsu's sword could not break or damage Juugo's skin at all (in CS1) so how would Hidan's sword pierce his skin? Juugo uses Chakra cannon's to finish of Hidan or rip his head off
Sai
spams ink from the skies. Ink animals should be able to bind Hidan or those ink orge/monster hold Hidan down
Kankuro
battles from long/mid range so that Hidan can not draw blood. From there posion and explosions and puppet holding will defeat Hidn
Yamato
Yamato can bind Hidan with wood so that he can not move.
Zabuza Momochi
Asuma can not burn nor cut though ice style....well not at least till he gets pierced with senbon or trapped within ice dome
Asuma Sarutobi
Haku
PTS Naruto - OTK
PTS Sasuke - CS 2
Kidomaru
Shadow stiching would end this guy. He was only strong cuz he was hiding. In an open area he is not that tough. He would get caught in shadows quite quickly especially when the shadows in the air. One light bomb and the game would be over
Shikamaru Nara
How is shikamaru stronger than jinjuiki??????
Utakata - Rokubi
Fu - Nanabi
These guys should be in the strong...but featless Tier

Spoiler:

Jinpachi Munashi
Ameyuri Ringo
Kushimaru Kuriarare
Jinin Akebino
Fuguki Suikazan

Chuunin Tier
Pakura
Gari
Kiba Inuzuka
Shino Aburame
Inoichi Yamanaka
Kurenai Yūhi
genjutsu is useless. They have 2 different chakra flowing inside of them so the twins would win
Jirobo
Just like for Sakura he would lose to the twins. One touch and Jirobo is in trouble.
Sakura Haruno
Sakon and Ukon would beat Sakura. The twins are faster and one touch and they are into her body. They would catch her wrist when she would strike then move into her body
Hinata Hyūga
Kotetsu Hagane & Izumo Kamizuk
lol why are they togetheri
Sakon/Ukon


Genin Tier
PTS Naruto Uzumaki
PTS Neji Hyuuga
PTS Lee
^isn't 5th gate supposed to be stronger than Neji. Lee never went all out with Neji. And Naruto could not stall with clones long enough before he gets put down
PTS Sasuke Uchiha
Dosu Kinuta
Zaku Abumi
PTS Shikamaru Nara
PTS Choji Akimichi
^assuming this is WITH PILLS...he should be a LOT higher
PTS Hinata Hyuuga
How does Hinata deflect or dodge weapon spam? Without rotation she would get stomped. Not to mention with banna fan.
Tenten
Iruka
Yoroi Akadō
Misumi Tsurugi
PTS Ino Yamanaka
Oh come on now. Karin is not that weak. She can easily sense and dodge Ino's mind transfer. Plus she has amazing stamina. Karin would win this cat fight...or at least tire out Ino. Karin kept Cursed Mark ninja under control so she can handle Ino.
Karin.

tsuande can not beat kisame!!! She would drown in water prison

[Pool]

PoP... If Hidan can break out of Shadow Possession Jutsu, I'm all but certain he can casually bust through wood style. And ink snakes.

[PrinceofPeace]

ink snakes..AGRRED

but Wood style is MUCH stronger than Shadows and ink. It is more physicall. And it held down Naruto in base and infused with Kyubi chakra

I believe only chakra scapel Kabuto broke though it but the weapon does not have chakra...and Hidan is not physcially strong

Plus Shikamaru was tired when he caught Hidan in shadow possesion. Plus when you use it more and more and more the shadows get weaker. And Shiakamru had prep so he had better usage of it

Bassically the shadow feats do not measure up to Wood style capturing feats.

[Devils Lawyer]

I find this list a waste of time number one being the majority doesn't control it only an individual. So pointless may as well create your own.

[PrinceofPeace]

... So you say number one but you have no other points?

This is edited by one yet controlled by many. We all have a say.

[Devils Lawyer]

Yeah no the mod in charge at the end of the day dictates what goes where. You are only naive enough to not notice. Originally it was more flexible now not so much. Hence why tier battles was the more legit method.

[BMC1994]

Originally Posted by Devils Lawyer

I find this list a waste of time number one being the majority doesn't control it only an individual. So pointless may as well create your own.

2 individuals ,sora occasionally arranges some things too , but anyway i try to take everything what said here into the list /just letting it go through my own logic so we dont get people like suigetsu(with no offesive power at all in kage tier and stuff like that)

Originally Posted by Devils Lawyer

Yeah no the mod in charge at the end of the day dictates what goes where. You are only naive enough to not notice. Originally it was more flexible now not so much. Hence why tier battles was the more legit method.

How did it go originally kinda curious as that was before i was here.

Originally Posted by Uchiha Sora

I don't think adding PTS characters is necessary. But PTS Naruto and Sasuke should be Chunin tier. Naruto has Gambunta p, Sasuke could react to KN1. PTS Choji would roflstomp most of Chuunin tier at his best(butterfly mode and Super expansion). I think It's better if PTS are left out

I like how PTS Gaara could be high in the jonin tier

Its mainly to fill up the genin tier and often threads are created here with pts characters anyway. Although your right about those 3

And people differ alot from their pts version (people like choji, sasuke etc).

@Prince it was still in the middle of being arranged it has changed since then mind taking a new look?

[Devils Lawyer]

Originally Posted by BMC1994

2 individuals ,sora occasionally arranges some things too , but anyway i try to take everything what said here into the list /just letting it go through my own logic so we dont get people like suigetsu(with no offesive power at all in kage tier and stuff like that)



How did it go originally kinda curious as that was before i was here.

If anyone was in charge of such a list their opinions would dominate. That is just human nature. I am right you are wrong.

Usually create a tier battle if enough people are interested. Meaning just debate character vs character in thread.

[BMC1994]

My only problem with that would be then we get monstousitys such as that sakura vs hinata thread with random and unproven claims , and where even the more experienced debaters are on different sides leading to no other conclusion then the thread being moved to the graveyard.

Also moved pts choj(stil dont know to put him with or without pills, its kinda a combination of both for now) , karin and tenten up

Edit:

Also looking at earlier pages of this thread it went pretty much the same as it does now.

@Prince


Jinchuriki - I put them in their 'alive' version as Godaime suggested a while ago. there were not only to have any sort of control over their bijuu and are near featless themselves.
Izumo & kotetsu - I honestly dont know, maybe sora does
Ukon and Sakon - If someone like kiba can figure out to just stab himself they should be no problem to anyone.
Kidomaru - Shadows in the air? I dont get what your saying here
Zabuza - doesnt have ice style although you probably meant that for haku
Hidan - a guy fast and agile enough to pressure kakashi really doubt he would get captured easily.
Kankuro - I thought i moved him up, anyway hes going up he has a sasori puppet(which also shoots fire)
Sai - I dont recall sais animals being that strong, and hidan was strong enough to fight against shikas shadows
Chiyo - agree
Kimimaro - agree(although im not sure whether the bones prevented him from bleeding).
jugo - hidans overal ability is better vs people that can be cut.
Hozukis - again overal ability, hidan has immortality + curse, hozuki just are liquid, and a sword thats all.

[Devils Lawyer]

The is place is home of the endless debates. What you do in that situation is just line up by debating straight stats and abilities no more no less. No what if situations allowed.

[PrinceofPeace]

Originally Posted by Devils Lawyer

If anyone was in charge of such a list their opinions would dominate. That is just human nature. I am right you are wrong.
Lol maybe that is just YOUR nature. BMC admitted when wrong before. Unlike you when I gave you proof that BYkugan can see clearly in hidden mist

Usually create a tier battle if enough people are interested. Meaning just debate character vs character in thread
I think i know what you mean. I have been puttting who I think would beat who in my own Narutoverse threads
.

Originally Posted by BMC1994

@Prince
Jinchuriki - I put them in their 'alive' version as Godaime suggested a while ago. there were not only to have any sort of control over their bijuu and are near featless themselves.
agreed
Izumo & kotetsu - I honestly dont know, maybe sora does
Agrrredd.I think kotetsu is stronger....whoever can spit out the water is the weaker one IMO.
Ukon and Sakon - If someone like kiba can figure out to just stab himself they should be no problem to anyone.
That would also hurt themseleves as well. And Only ONE twin was inside the body while the other was busy. So either the twins can go one at a time or one can beat the foe up while the other is inside. And its hard to beat them when if bisected they grow new limbs
Kidomaru - Shadows in the air? I dont get what your saying here
Shikamaru can make his shadows air-born to attack kidomaru. The shadows could catch whatever kidomaru thorws at him. As long as they are not in a forest Kidomaru is at a disadvantage.
Zabuza - doesnt have ice style although you probably meant that for haku
I did lol. My B
Hidan - a guy fast and agile enough to pressure kakashi really doubt he would get captured easily.
That is more likely than Hidan getting blood from puppet masters. They could trick him at least. Kankuro got Sasori's scent afterall. And the posion would slow down Hidan. Kankuro used his puppets in smart ways. Kaknkuro can make himself the puppet and let himself get hit then attack Hidan on the spot. If Kankuro can beat him Chiyo can with EASE
Kankuro - I thought i moved him up, anyway hes going up he has a sasori puppet(which also shoots fire)
BURN BABY BURN!!!
Sai - I dont recall sais animals being that strong, and hidan was strong enough to fight against shikas shadows
Agrred
Chiyo - agree
YEA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ASee DL its possible....if you can debate well
Kimimaro - agree(although im not sure whether the bones prevented him from bleeding).
They do. Hidan's sycthe does not have great feat anway
jugo - hidans overal ability is better vs people that can be cut.
and shoot lasers!?!!?agreed
Hozukis - again overal ability, hidan has immortality + curse, hozuki just are liquid, and a sword thats all
That's why Sugetisu (maybe even Magnetsu) would drown Hidan when he gets close....like what happened to Juugo
.

Thanks for taking the time to do this(sorry for double post)

and Killer B should be above Danzo cuz Koto fails against Jinjuriki

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SM kabuto should beat everyone under Killer Bee. His demonic flute could solo most people.

And are we going to add Base Kabuto?

The Hozuki bros should be able to drown hidan. Sugeitsu did it with Juugo and Juugo is like hidan personality wise

I am confident a GIANT CHOZA can grab/hold/stangle/crush Hidan
And
Yamato can lock up Hidan in a wooden cage or bind him. Hidan is not phsyically strong


And Kankuro may have Sasori as a puppet but he can not use it like Sasori. Chiyo has more puppets and more experience to win this battle. She kept up with Sasori while Kankuro was near death

[Devils Lawyer]

Originally Posted by PrinceofPeace

That wasn't proof just you thinking it's proof. You need to stop and wonder why the vast majority think your arguments are garbage. Lol at neji has no fears. You step one foot of the porch known as viz and you will meet alot less nicer people than me who would tell you these facts.

[PrinceofPeace]

Look who's talking

Me and countless others have given you proof and you do not believe it. The bykugan can see thought the mist cuz it's the most detailed in seeing chakra. They would see that their is a difference in amount of chakra between the mist and the enemy

You are one of the reasons why the BG suck.

Everything I say may not be perfect but it's better than yours

[Devils Lawyer]

You only think that because of your own delusions and idiots who actually agree with your logic. My debates>>>>yours. My intelligence>>>>yours. My life worth >>>>>>>>>>>>>yours. The bg sucks because special needs individuals like yourself don't know anything. The only thing you do is repeat yourself a thousand times. The fact remains your words are worth less than dirt. Plenty of it to go around no value.

[PrinceofPeace]

That is just what I am talking about. You insult others instead of debating. You can not even prove that the bykugan can not see in the mist

[Maruko]

It can see in the mist....
It can see through walls.
Wall's density > mist's density