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Old 02-11-2013, 08:19 PM   #181
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I remember when I had to explain how powerful the Flash was in canon, and how The One Above All would beat Sheogorath.

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There is an additional Neji feat I just recalled.

He and Hiashi together when using rotation was able to block Juubi's chakra arm.

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He can't keep rotation up forever...
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Because Kakashi can Raikiri forever.

What's your point Shisko? Kakashi can Raikiri 4 times in a day. Are you implying that Neji can't use rotation more than 4 times?
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Can Neji rotation even withstand raikiri? Pretty sure nothing in the story supports that. More or less an assumption.
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He dosn't have to use it. Because I am sure he knows Neji can't Rotate All day. All he as to do if stall him in a way that he keeps doing it till he can't no more. Then uses it.

How strong is that rotation? I dout it is impossible to beat. But Lightning blade may not be strong enough. All depends.
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Can Neji rotation even withstand raikiri? Pretty sure nothing in the story supports that. More or less an assumption.
Rotation is different from every other defense in the show. It's not just still chakra, it parries whatever it comes into contact with. But like I said, Neji doesn't need to rotate. Air palm works much better as a defense


Waste of a valuable raikiri.
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Rotation is different from every other defense in the show. It's not just still chakra, it parries whatever it comes into contact with. But like I said, Neji doesn't need to rotate. Air palm works much better as a defense


Waste of a valuable raikiri.
If you charge the rotation at point blank with enough power you can overwhelm it. See Naruto vs Neji. RaikirI could easily force the same type of opening with better results.
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I don't see how lighting blade is that strong. It's only feat was bisecting human flesh which is not that strong. Rotation is a dome of chakra moving at an incredible pace that has more feats of protecting the user. Even if Kakashi attacks right when rotation stops PTS Neji has shown feats to react to it.

And the only way Kakashi would find out about the blindspots is if he had a supplementary attack..... Which he does not

And idk why ppl are saying neji can not rotate forever. Obviously this is true and nobody said he would.

I don't see how lighting blad would bisect a rapidly spinnin dome. It can't cut though it and reach neji. Plus rotation is supposed to be a better defense than garra's sand which saskue was barely able to break though.
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It's only feat was bisecting human flesh which is not that strong.
Chapter 240.
Raikiri isn't even hitting the floor/ground and it casually slices through earth.An amateur Raikiri no less.

It's a Chidori except that it's majorly stronger.
Heck it even uses Raiton which is all about Speed and Piercing power.

Chapter 146.
Raikiri is an advanced Chidori and look what Sasuke does despite being a noob at it.

Yeah, now think of Kakashi with his majorly more devastating one.

It's also a nice comparison seeing that Sasuke can pierce Gaaras Sand with a amateur Chidori.

Powerscaling, Raikiri is much much more devastating.

Don't give me, "It's not about Sasuke", Chidori and Raikiri have very few differences except one being the latter being the more devastating one cause it's more concentrated than Chidori.
So what the Chidori can, Raikiri should be able to do as well and more except for Techniques.
Of course, this isn't applying to Cursed Seal Chidori.
And of course, "Kakashi split lightning with it".
Not true but it's a purposely placed exaggeration to show how fast it is.
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And of course, "Kakashi split lightning with it".
Not true but it's a purposely placed exaggeration to show how fast it is.
It happened in Anime. I know that it is not considered canon. But the fact it was shown means we are not supposed to think Guy lied about it!!!

So, it is not a feat we can use but we do know it happened!!!
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Genjutsu > Raikiri. GG Neji.

Seriously why is this debate still going on. Make a rotation vs Raikiri thread if you want to debate it that badly.
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Last time I checked it was also Kakashi who's been taking on Jonins ever since he was about the same age as Neji if not younger only doing bad due to being an ass when he was young.

Just saying, cause Nejis best feats come from against a guy who along with 3 others struggled against Genma,Shizune and Raido who returned from a Mission.
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I mean, I already admitted genjutsu was Kakashi's ticket to win pages ago. CqC is Neji's turf. He has Kakashi locked down there. Genjutsus not very IC but it's not something worth debating.
Neji would automatically notice he's in a genjutsu, but probably not in time to avoid a Raikiri.

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i believe your talking about when Neji first rotated.
At that point he only emitted chakra. He didn't rotate. He can skip that step and just rotate freely.

BMC is right though, if you want to discuss Raikiri VS Rotation then make another thread b/c Neji VS Kakashi is pretty much decided.
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So how does Neji's rotation tanking Jubi's tail factor with Hiashi's factor?
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Genjutsu would not be the win
-Kakashi had to Stand still to use it which would be an easy target for air palms
-it would be obious that neji is in a genjutsu
- 00C
-the genjutsu does not restrict his movements
-the genjutsu would not be as effective as it was on Sakura

Now idk if I am right but the fear that the genjutsu causes has to be realistic. Saskue being wounded by Kakashi is possible. But lee and tenten coming from no where is far fetched. We do not know how badly the genjutsu would effect. Neji can easily real out though pain or releasing it. Neji could at least rotate while under genjutsu until he breaks out.
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It was never required to stand still to use genjutsu.
Him being aware doesnt help him even if he would know how to break out (which is an assumption).
Kakashi used it in his two only pts fights so for this version its very in character.
It doesnt need to be it just needs to create an opening.

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Default Re: Rotation(Kaiten) vs Raikiri(Lightning Blade)

Name somebody who used genjutsu while moving. Kakashi stood close range and also needed a hand seal

Right I am just saying a need to break out of genjutsu is knowing your in one

One time was toying with people barley gennin level
The other was to distract someone ... Idk how a figure would distract neji
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