Spoiler: It smells like plothole

and17y1 · 02-08-2013, 10:33 AM

So at the moment where Oro said he had DNA from all 4 of them. When and How ? We didnt see any scrolls, blood samples.. ?? He just did Edo Tensei and thats it.. i think it shouldnt be like this... too unexplained and plotholed

what about u ?

DrKage · 02-08-2013, 10:42 AM

He could have had them in a pouch, pocket, in a snake, whatever.

Phacade · 02-08-2013, 11:13 AM

There's no reason to assume Orochimaru, one of the three Sannin of Konohagakure, doesn't have the same control with snakes that Jiraiya did. He probably had them in the belly of a snake somewhere and *poof* there it is. Having spent a lot of time without his jutsu probably forced Orochimaru to prepare a great many things to be summoned when and if he got his mojo back.

JazzJunkie4 · 02-08-2013, 03:02 PM

senju dna

Jakropha · 02-08-2013, 03:39 PM

I personally didn't like it when that happened either, but oh well, what can we do

Sir Michael · 02-08-2013, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by JazzJunkie4

senju dna

Plotholes are not the problem. It's the Senju DNA.

NINE-TAILS-BIJU · 02-08-2013, 06:07 PM

well didn't they say that the Zetsu had Harashirama DNA on them, and tobirama has some DNA similar to his brother, but idk how he got the 3rd's and Minato's DNA

Wooster · 02-08-2013, 06:10 PM

Summons up his ass.

paradigm1977 · 02-08-2013, 11:00 PM

The DNA thing is one thing, but at least make it look a little high level, hair raising, energy ball, lightning in the eyes.

No, slaps the ground and four fighters tougher than any four Kabuto raised grow right out of a zetsu, not an enemy ninja, not a young virgin.

And this after opening his stomach. Can we say, with ease?

Sir Michael · 02-08-2013, 11:20 PM

You know what else smells like Plothole?

Paradigms mom!

-rimshot-

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Oro is oro, he can do anything.

So a plothole is likely.

サスケ · 02-08-2013, 11:28 PM

You just have to go with the story. It's kinda like how Yamato conveniently has Senju DNA for some reason. It makes it so Kishi can easily create the Zetsu army. You just have to kind of accept it even though it is BS

Phariah824 · 02-09-2013, 12:07 AM

when Kabuto summoned the ET army he didn't whip out a scroll or anything. the dna could be stored on a scroll or in something else where that he can tap in much the same way as when naruto has a clone somewhere else that is focusing natural chakra an then is released to allow Nariuto to go Sage Mode w/ out focusing.

the only differance was that kabuto's summons brought them out of coffins while oro's brought them out of nothing. that could be because they were all sealed in the Reaper death Seal, so they didn't need any preparations.

just because something is not spelled is no reason to cry plothole.

Drake_Stephens · 02-09-2013, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by サスケ

You just have to go with the story. It's kinda like how Yamato conveniently has Senju DNA for some reason. It makes it so Kishi can easily create the Zetsu army. You just have to kind of accept it even though it is BS

Yamato has Senju DNA from Oro testing on him as a child. Yamato was the only survivor thats why he used Wood Style and has Senju DNA. It was said in the series, anime and manga.

coolm3 · 02-09-2013, 10:02 PM

That's not a plot hole lol...I swear you people throw that word around too much. And by this point it's expected of followers to already know things like how Orochimaru happens to carry EVERYTHING inside of his body and regurgitates it regularly. Likely to save a panel from having the same thing as they rarely have enough for one week anyways, it's expected for you to be smart enough to assume this simple fact. And if ou happen to be new enough that you don't know, then you obviously started the story at the wrong spot and not the beginning.

InnerSakura · 02-10-2013, 02:11 AM

Well, if it's a plothole ya know what they say:

Wherever there's a hole, there's usually crap in it.

Just saying. Thats a load of SHIZ.

lol

Godaime Kazekage · 02-10-2013, 02:31 PM

I like how everyone failed to mention that Oro had their DNA waaaaay back in Part One when he summoned the Hokage against Hiruzen and he probably got Hiruzen's DNA in the same fight since he was bleeding all over the place after getting stabbed through the chest.

Unless the OP is complaining about how he was able to access that DNA right away which has already been covered by the people above (stored in snakes/scrolls).

サスケ · 02-10-2013, 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drake_Stephens

Yamato has Senju DNA from Oro testing on him as a child. Yamato was the only survivor thats why he used Wood Style and has Senju DNA. It was said in the series, anime and manga.

still kinda BS to be honest

joon61 · 02-10-2013, 02:34 PM

The third was his teacher, he could have etheir gotten it before he died, or right after.
He could have gotten the 4th from naruto perhaps?

paradigm1977 · 02-10-2013, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Godaime Kazekage

I like how everyone failed to mention that Oro had their DNA waaaaay back in Part One when he summoned the Hokage against Hiruzen and he probably got Hiruzen's DNA in the same fight since he was bleeding all over the place after getting stabbed through the chest.

Unless the OP is complaining about how he was able to access that DNA right away which has already been covered by the people above (stored in snakes/scrolls).

Well the count on posts of DNA situation is cool, not a plot hole is 8-2 on this thread, thats why most of didn't mention that specific fight. You're correct, most have no issue. then a couple posters didnt discuss.

Fuuin · 02-11-2013, 12:17 AM

Not everything has to be told to us before it happens. If we knew he had their DNA then we would've expected this.

You've gotta cut an author some slack on these types of things. Its logical within the context of the story for him to have that DNA, we don't need to know when/where/how he got it. There's only 20ish pages in a manga and the limitations of POV.

All that matters is an author does what's necessary (and only what's necessary) to get from one page to the next, one chapter to the next chapter, one arc to the next arc. Major climactic moments are where we have the reader's right to demand knowledge as to how something came about. The summoning of the four kage wasn't a climactic moment, but whatever Hashirama is going to tell Sasuke will be.

Its all about the source of insight or initiator of action, not so much how they're able to do every little thing in every little moment.

02-08-2013, 10:33 AM	#1
and17y1 Genin Elite Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 455 Rep Power: 5 Member's Picture Albums	It smells like plothole So at the moment where Oro said he had DNA from all 4 of them. When and How ? We didnt see any scrolls, blood samples.. ?? He just did Edo Tensei and thats it.. i think it shouldnt be like this... too unexplained and plotholed what about u ? __________________ Badass To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

02-08-2013, 10:42 AM	#2
DrKage Genin Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 349 Rep Power: 3	Re: It smells like plothole He could have had them in a pouch, pocket, in a snake, whatever.

02-08-2013, 11:13 AM	#3
Phacade Apprentice Genin Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 175 Rep Power: 4	Re: It smells like plothole There's no reason to assume Orochimaru, one of the three Sannin of Konohagakure, doesn't have the same control with snakes that Jiraiya did. He probably had them in the belly of a snake somewhere and poof there it is. Having spent a lot of time without his jutsu probably forced Orochimaru to prepare a great many things to be summoned when and if he got his mojo back. __________________ ■ I mock your cheese danish and all it stands for! ■

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paradigm1977 Chunin Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Philadelphia, PA, USA Posts: 1,137 Rep Power: 6	Re: It smells like plothole The DNA thing is one thing, but at least make it look a little high level, hair raising, energy ball, lightning in the eyes. No, slaps the ground and four fighters tougher than any four Kabuto raised grow right out of a zetsu, not an enemy ninja, not a young virgin. And this after opening his stomach. Can we say, with ease? __________________ Where are the Akatsuki Avatars? I want Kakuzu.

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Sir Michael Sir Of The Forums Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Role Playing at Oasis Posts: 2,725 Rep Power: 7	Re: It smells like plothole You know what else smells like Plothole? Paradigms mom! -rimshot- - Oro is oro, he can do anything. So a plothole is likely. __________________ Just Call Me TheClassY Hoe✲ -JAFL ScrappY Approves! Sir of the Forums To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. I'm also the Sir of Swimming Pools. Take a dip. Spoiler: To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

02-08-2013, 11:28 PM	#11
サスケ Genin Join Date: Feb 2013 Posts: 255 Rep Power: 0	Re: It smells like plothole You just have to go with the story. It's kinda like how Yamato conveniently has Senju DNA for some reason. It makes it so Kishi can easily create the Zetsu army. You just have to kind of accept it even though it is BS

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Phariah824 Chunin Exam Participant Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: NYC Posts: 845 Rep Power: 8	Re: It smells like plothole when Kabuto summoned the ET army he didn't whip out a scroll or anything. the dna could be stored on a scroll or in something else where that he can tap in much the same way as when naruto has a clone somewhere else that is focusing natural chakra an then is released to allow Nariuto to go Sage Mode w/ out focusing. the only differance was that kabuto's summons brought them out of coffins while oro's brought them out of nothing. that could be because they were all sealed in the Reaper death Seal, so they didn't need any preparations. just because something is not spelled is no reason to cry plothole. __________________ Duty is as heavy as a mountain Death as light as a feather Oct.15 2009 i survived Madara's first attack of turning back time To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Last edited by Phariah824; 02-09-2013 at 12:15 AM.

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coolm3 Genin Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Aincrad 75th Floor Posts: 302 Rep Power: 7	Re: It smells like plothole That's not a plot hole lol...I swear you people throw that word around too much. And by this point it's expected of followers to already know things like how Orochimaru happens to carry EVERYTHING inside of his body and regurgitates it regularly. Likely to save a panel from having the same thing as they rarely have enough for one week anyways, it's expected for you to be smart enough to assume this simple fact. And if ou happen to be new enough that you don't know, then you obviously started the story at the wrong spot and not the beginning. __________________ The country? The skies? You can have them. I'm busy just protecting what's right in front of me. I don't know what'll happen to me in the future, but if something has fallen at my feet, then the least I can do is pick it up. A newspaper is a device for making the ignorant more ignorant and the crazy crazier. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. You rep me I rep you To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

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InnerSakura Special Jonin Candidate Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: On the other side Posts: 2,928 Rep Power: 13 Member's Picture Albums	Re: It smells like plothole Well, if it's a plothole ya know what they say: Wherever there's a hole, there's usually crap in it. Just saying. Thats a load of SHIZ. lol __________________ Note to self: do NOT upset Sakura. She'll kill you! ~Naruto CHAAA!!!!! ~Hikage of The Village Hidden in the Oasis~

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Godaime Kazekage Chunin Exam Proctor Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 1,569 Rep Power: 11	Re: It smells like plothole I like how everyone failed to mention that Oro had their DNA waaaaay back in Part One when he summoned the Hokage against Hiruzen and he probably got Hiruzen's DNA in the same fight since he was bleeding all over the place after getting stabbed through the chest. Unless the OP is complaining about how he was able to access that DNA right away which has already been covered by the people above (stored in snakes/scrolls). __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

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