Ichigo Vs Naruto Speedsters

[Roronoa Zoro]

Originally Posted by cnorwood

WHAT???? first of all none of the hst is even close to the power that piccolo was displaying during his fight with raditz. Second, no naruto is the "closest" in those terms. If we are talking anime dragonball z, which im sure you are, unless some crazy stuff happenned they wouldnt even be able to tickle a sleeping episode 1 goku, let alone an awake mad one.

and no, yamamoto and aizen are going to eat a biju bomb and die.

Yea narutos gonna beat a guy that when he releases his bankai hes 15,000,000,000 degrees right narutos gonna beat a guy that when he puts his sword to the ground, he summons basically edos and the tip of his blade wipes mountains narutos gonna beat a guy with a bankai that can destroy earth itself. Your right

[Nigoyukai]

Originally Posted by Roronoa Zoro

Yea narutos gonna beat a guy that when he releases his bankai hes 15,000,000,000 degrees right narutos gonna beat a guy that when he puts his sword to the ground, he summons basically edos and the tip of his blade wipes mountains narutos gonna beat a guy with a bankai that can destroy earth itself. Your right

Not saying that Bankai Yamamoto can't win, but it's not out of the question for BM Naruto to one-shot him. East sublimated a huge amount of rock, it's nice, but it doesn't put his firepower in rivalry with HST top tiers. West is nice too, except it's limited to a contact-only working. Anyone more durable than Royd Llyod w/Blut Vene (like BM Naruto) will casually resist the heat from several meters away. That said, so long as Naruto can keep his distance, he only needs to charge a multi-mountain BB and the moment it hits Yama, it explodes right in his face and blows his body up to red mist.
Which means that the only thing Yama can do is to rely on North (which is basically a ranged East) while Naruto is within his sights and hope that it hits him.

[The Immortal Watch Dog]

Originally Posted by megabbaut

Pretty sure Kizaru should be the fastest character in the HST since he's lightspeed.

no he isn't

Originally Posted by Shikamaru Nara

If Naruto doesn't solo, sheer numbers take this.
Ichigo, as far as I can remember (I haven't read Bleach in a long time), doesn't have any massive attacks that can solo everyone.

His radius is rather low too.

Ichigo gained an enormous speed boost and power gap..well unto Juha Bach's secretary one shotted him

Originally Posted by Uchiha Sora

Elder captains?

I really meant he's the best overall. He has the best destruction feats and his speed is up there. But I forgot Yamamoto who does have the best destruction feat from what I've heard

no he doesn't Yamamoto, Retsu and Juha bach crap all over him - it looks like some of the royal gaurd are too

Originally Posted by Uchiha Sora

Yonkou are currently featless, but the feats we do have of Shanks don't put him above Naruto. Nobody in OP except for maybe logias can take a mountain buster. While he's in the gold kurama he can't really take any hits from anything we've seen from Admirals.

aside from the ten tails nothing in naruto exceeds white beards destructive capacity

Originally Posted by Uchiha Sora

Has Aizen returned to bleach? I mean Aizen at full power got raped by mugetsu which should be weaker than a TBB

no but Yamaji and Retsu and Shunsui all proved themselves to be above balls to the wall mode Ichigo

Originally Posted by Roronoa Zoro

Yea narutos gonna beat a guy that when he releases his bankai hes 15,000,000,000 degrees right narutos gonna beat a guy that when he puts his sword to the ground, he summons basically edos and the tip of his blade wipes mountains narutos gonna beat a guy with a bankai that can destroy earth itself. Your right

the fifteen million degree thing is hyperbole and its against the rules to use hyperbole.

as to what Woody's saying it's that Yama lacks the durability feats to survive a BB and he's right not that Yamaji can't kill him but that he can't tank Naruto's best

[Devils Lawyer]

[JLI2infinity]

Originally Posted by The Immortal Watch Dog

no he isn't

the fifteen million degree thing is hyperbole and its against the rules to use hyperbole.

as to what Woody's saying it's that Yama lacks the durability feats to survive a BB and he's right not that Yamaji can't kill him but that he can't tank Naruto's best

No, the 15 million degrees isn't a hyperbole I've debated this before. Why give a specific temperature that matches the core temp. of the Sun? Why give physical properties of heat at that degree then attribute them to Yamamoto (i.e. so hot no longer produces flames all we saw was a manifestation of his reiatsu)?

The only argument I heard against the temperature being accurate is that the atmosphere in SS didn't immediately evaporate like it would have on Earth and to that I responded that we don't know how strong the atmosphere is in SS and on top of that there is a barrier that separates SS from the rest of Rukongai.

Anyways with regards to the TBB everyone seems to forget that Yama can just flash step a mile in the opposite direction. It might as well just be teleportation. In other words, Naruto will never be able to target him with the one move sure to kill him. Ichigo of course has never shown the ability to flash step like this so he's still screwed.

@Devil'sLawyer LOL. Where did you find that meme?

[The Immortal Watch Dog]

Originally Posted by JLI2infinity

No, the 15 million degrees isn't a hyperbole I've debated this before. Why give a specific temperature that matches the core temp. of the Sun? Why give physical properties of heat at that degree then attribute them to Yamamoto (i.e. so hot no longer produces flames all we saw was a manifestation of his reiatsu)?

it's hyperbole because its so far above the HST's power level that it's laughable to think its legit..

world wasn't liquified

Originally Posted by JLI2infinity

The only argument I heard against the temperature being accurate is that the atmosphere in SS didn't immediately evaporate like it would have on Earth and to that I responded that we don't know how strong the atmosphere is in SS and on top of that there is a barrier that separates SS from the rest of Rukongai.

"we don't know how tough the SS's atmosphere is" isn't a valid argument..on a feats only section though

[cnorwood]

Originally Posted by Roronoa Zoro

Yea narutos gonna beat a guy that when he releases his bankai hes 15,000,000,000 degrees right narutos gonna beat a guy that when he puts his sword to the ground, he summons basically edos and the tip of his blade wipes mountains narutos gonna beat a guy with a bankai that can destroy earth itself. Your right

I feel like you only watch the naruto anime, then yea your comments would make sense because naruto hasnt beasted entirely yet. And you forget that even though he was 15 billion degrees he didnt even vaporize the the ground he stood on. I understand bleach looks stronger than naruto (of course that would be if you ignored the pein fight and the biju battles) but its not.

[mirai colorles]

Originally Posted by Shikamaru Nara

If Naruto doesn't solo, sheer numbers take this.
Ichigo, as far as I can remember (I haven't read Bleach in a long time), doesn't have any massive attacks that can solo everyone.

His radius is rather low too.

AOE is not the focal point of Bleach, not in the slightest