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Old 02-02-2013, 02:57 PM   #81
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Ahh-so much Hashirama wank on this site, it's ridiculous. First off, let's get it out there that Hashirama has no chance against Muu-really none of the Hokage except Minato do, and even he would have to get lucky to win. The guy is a freaking flying invisible nuke. All we know about Hashirama is hype, yes he distributed tailed beasts at one point. Wasn't shown how he beat them though, didn't happen at the same time, and he has Bijuu kryptonite. Yes he beat EMS Madara, not that amazing since Gaara could also solo (Madara would've been finished if he didn't have Rinnegan after Gaara pulled him out of Susano'o). The Five Kage were beaten by a Madara with EMS, Rinnegan, Mokuton, a regenerating body and an infinite chakra pool-he's leagues above the Madara Hashirama beat.

Although to be fair, maybe I'm giving Muu a bit too much credit. His dust release has never been shown to cover as much area as Onoki's. Regardless, he can still pretty much snipe all of the Hokage after going invisible. The only one I think could stop him would be Minato, but even he could get unlucky with not noticing Muu attacking from behind.

I think it is possible that the Hokage could win, but it would be extremely difficult and much more likely that the other Kage would win. Minato would have to be on his A-game after marking the other Hokage since he's the only one of them that can react to blitzes from 3rd Raikage and surprise attacks from Muu.
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^ So basically what you're saying is the guy that took on Madara and Kyuubi is nothing but hype and he will lose because Muu can fly and spam dust release?
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^ So basically what you're saying is the guy that took on Madara and Kyuubi is nothing but hype and he will lose because Muu can fly and spam dust release?
Yes. That is how the BG's work. We do not know how hashirama beat madra after all.

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Don't underestimate the 1 hokage yeah mu is killer but he can't beat the first also why can the fourth win and not the first
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Don't get me wrong I am the BIGGEST HASHIRAMA FAN!!!!!!!

But we can not use A>B>C logic.
If nobody can say HOW instead of using hype Muu loses. Then this is OVER

Muu flies up and kills everyone with Dust Release even his own teammates
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Dust release isnt going to kill anyone that easily... Forgot my post? Minato can teleport that thing somewhere else wherever that is just like he did with the TBB. Also, i will be posting less, busy on my side
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Dust release isnt going to kill anyone that easily... Forgot my post? Minato can teleport that thing somewhere else wherever that is just like he did with the TBB. Also, i will be posting less, busy on my side
Minato can't be everywhere at once- (well, he kind of can ), but he can't watch everywhere at once. If Muu suddenly appears behind Hashirama and disintegrates him with dust release there is nothing Minato can do unless he was nearby and watching out for him, which will be difficult while dodging coordinated assaults from the other Kage he is facing.

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Also if Muu is so invinsible then how is it that the Second Mizukage managed to kill him? couldn't he of just flew in the air and spammed dust release at him and won by that logic?
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FIrst off Muu is not invisable, so don'y make it seem impossible to kill him.

Hashirama hasn't shown any sensing skills but he does have large AoE attacks...but that is useless in front of a guy who can fly. Anyways...Muu is a master sensor but even I doubt he can sense the real Hashirama as Madara has stated that only he could differentiate the real one from a MKB. Flower Pollen World is a great jutsu which makes Hashirama able to "meld" or "teleport" from within it. Hashirama also has medical/regen like Tsunade so....in the end, this battle is really a battle of attrition. Hashirama has no way of sensing Muu, but Muu has no way of getting rid of Pollen Flower World or huge Mokuton spam. He can certainly Jinton it(but no where is it stated he can Jinton a giant turtle like Onoki), but at the cost of his chakra. Hashirama is stated to be a chakra powerhouse. This is a hard match to choose sides.

On one side..a guy who can split, best sensor bar Naruto in the manga, a jutsu that erases matter, and can fly. On the other...we have a guy who can create large forests, can create MKB's, can move thru his Mokuton, has a high level genjutsu a Kage couldn't break out of until he was defeated, high level regen and an insane amount of chakra.
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This entire thread has been watered down to "Muu flies and spams dust release = win"
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FIrst off Muu is not invisable, so don'y make it seem impossible to kill him.

Hashirama hasn't shown any sensing skills but he does have large AoE attacks...but that is useless in front of a guy who can fly. Anyways...Muu is a master sensor but even I doubt he can sense the real Hashirama as Madara has stated that only he could differentiate the real one from a MKB. Flower Pollen World is a great jutsu which makes Hashirama able to "meld" or "teleport" from within it. Hashirama also has medical/regen like Tsunade so....in the end, this battle is really a battle of attrition. Hashirama has no way of sensing Muu, but Muu has no way of getting rid of Pollen Flower World or huge Mokuton spam. He can certainly Jinton it(but no where is it stated he can Jinton a giant turtle like Onoki), but at the cost of his chakra. Hashirama is stated to be a chakra powerhouse. This is a hard match to choose sides.

On one side..a guy who can split, best sensor bar Naruto in the manga, a jutsu that erases matter, and can fly. On the other...we have a guy who can create large forests, can create MKB's, can move thru his Mokuton, has a high level genjutsu a Kage couldn't break out of until he was defeated, high level regen and an insane amount of chakra.
Some good points, but still multiple problems:
-It takes time to grow out a forest (w/out Minato's support he'd have his head lopped off by 3RK way before he could do it) and Muu can easily avoid it as well by just staying airborne.
-Madara's statements can't be taken as word of god. As far as Madara knows he's the only one who could see through his clones. He isn't at Hashirama's side for every fight he's been through his entire life. And assuming Muu is capable of Onoki's level of destructiveness, they'd all be taken out simultaneously anyway.
-Hashirama cannot teleport through the trees. Lololol. The speed of the melding isn't known at all. It could be slow as molasses for all we know.
-Regen means nothing against Dust Release.
-2nd Mizukage's Joki Boi can move through Hashirama's pollen forest with impunity and blow up Hashirama and his trees.
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For one bro they are not all going after 1st. Eveyone seemed to put those to together. the others can deal with the rest while this is done. Also he cant just span dust release.
Dust Release techniques seem to require a certain amount of time when preparing the three-dimensional object, making it possible to prematurely halt the technique before it is completed, but once it's finished, the technique can be fired with astonishing speed. The hands also play a crucial role in preparation of techniques, interfering with the user's arms can hinder the technique
Dust Release techniques also appear to be rather chakra-taxing

So 1st spams the wood to surround him and grab his hands. As for the RK the first can also use a wood sheild. The lame one use to deflect the biiju bomb.

He can also try and trip the RK.
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For one bro they are not all going after 1st. Eveyone seemed to put those to together. the others can deal with the rest while this is done. Also he cant just span dust release.
Dust Release techniques seem to require a certain amount of time when preparing the three-dimensional object, making it possible to prematurely halt the technique before it is completed, but once it's finished, the technique can be fired with astonishing speed. The hands also play a crucial role in preparation of techniques, interfering with the user's arms can hinder the technique
Dust Release techniques also appear to be rather chakra-taxing

So 1st spams the wood to surround him and grab his hands. As for the RK the first can also use a wood sheild. The lame one use to deflect the biiju bomb.

He can also try and trip the RK.
You're joking right? There is no way a wood shield is stopping Nukite jutsu-the penultimate piercing attack in the Narutoverse. Hashirama never deflected a bijuu bomb either that's just NUNS Generation fan fiction. And how is Hashirama going to trip something moving as fast as 3RK?

How does Hashirama "grab Muu's hands"?

I never said Muu could spam Dust Release.
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First I never said you said spam, it was a statment.

How does he grab his hand? Wood of course.

Fan-fiction? Really I am sure they had to askthe owner before oing that. That would then mean he agreed to that being the story. So yes he deflexed it. If not there is Minatos jutsu that did the same when tobi attacked.

How will he trip him? Well for one Minato can stop him, you sit there and make all them seem to attack 1st that would then leave a opening on all of them. Minato can then teleport to Muu and grab his hands proventing the attack.
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