Spoiler: Tobi's Ace In The Hole - FFT

kalmeast · 01-15-2013, 10:01 PM

Food-For-Thought

A lot of us underestimate Tobi but I bet He could turn out to be an even smarter character than we know...
The kid is always cautious and thinks ahead of time...He pulled off being Madara for so long even against someone like Nagato... He's the one causing the most damage in the war right now...even more than madara himself...

Well, do you really think he's not prepared for Madara? Remember what he said when the sixth coffin was opened... He didn't think he'd be defeated, he just thought Madara could "dent" his project.

So what is this Ace I'm thinking?

- Think about all the Sharingan eyes tobi took for himself

- Think about all the Uchiha dna available to him

- Think about the Extra Right Eye Rinnegan He has somewhere

- What about his statement at the Kage Meeting about Collecting good eyes

- Think about his learning of Edo Tensei from Kabuto

- Think about the resources he has for Cloning

Where ever that lab is...it's different from where he showed Kabuto...

If he can produce an innumerable number of Zetsu's why not Himself?
OR

a possibility of Resurrected Uchiha army behind HIM...?

Kishi did say afterall that we're going to see some more character right?

Should kishi not do anything with this Tobi's lab and the right Rinnegan, and Shisui's right eye...then I'd remove him from my list of geniuses... These are the questions I'd be asking kishi on interviews (about tobi's lab of sharingans) not some idiotic question like "what do your kids call you"? lol...

Sir Michael · 01-15-2013, 10:29 PM

Another great thread.

Ghost4321 · 01-15-2013, 10:43 PM

I may be wrong, but didn't danzo destroy/seal his shisui eye when he died? I might be mistaken tho. And Itachi had the other one, which he put it in a bird that he put in naruto, that came out of naruto, and after it was used on himself he burned it with his eye flames. So both of shisuis eyes are gone.(I never checked b4 I posted this about his eyes so I might be wrong)

I am concerned about all those Uchiha eyes tho, and I'm going to guess that he got all of them from the clan right after Itachi killed them.

That right Rinnegan is prolly in one of the cases with the rest of the eyes, I wonder what hes going to do with that.

All in all I think(completely inplosable) that he found a way to combine all the eyes together or something o.0 lol or he might have edo'd the whole clan and there hiding somewhere already with there eyes from the wall
either way rep up for nice post

Kyūbi no Yōko · 01-16-2013, 03:42 AM

Tobi is very cautious, smart and plans ahead as you mentioned.
It's really unbelievable, when we saw him as a kid we didn't expect someone so strong in the future, but it turned out that he was very smart.

It seems more reasonable to have an Uchiha army ressurected, but I had another idea, what if he merges different powers all in his body.

Oh and, there's no way Madara can defeat him, his ego is an obstacle and he doesn't think. He might be great in battlefields, strong, etc. but he's no leader, he wants to do it all by himself, but in fact, numbers can make a difference.

That's why Tobi is smarter, he doesn't overestimate himself, he knows his limits.
An Uchiha Army might be ressurected.

DrKage · 01-16-2013, 05:07 AM

What's the goal of the Sharingan and Uchiha DNA? He can't use them in the moddle of battle and if he had made a bunch of Zetsu clones, mixed Uchiha DNA in with the Senju DNA and given a bunch of them Sharingan, I think we would have seen that by now. Maybe he's done something with the Rinnegan.

And no way would he use the Edo Tensei right now after nothing but a brief overview of it from Kabuto whom he didn't trust at all. Expecially now that he sees a broken away free Edo-Madara standing right next to him.

scallanan · 01-16-2013, 05:51 AM

I'm just wondering why obito hasn't done a suicide attack with the juubi yet. Madara is an edo tensei so he'll just be revived, and obito can let objects pass through him so he won't take any damage. Within the chaos, kakashi wouldn't be able to use his MS. And the juubi has a hard exterior that it won't feel much of an impact

Fuuin · 01-16-2013, 06:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kalmeast

Food-For-Thought

A lot of us underestimate Tobi but I bet He could turn out to be an even smarter character than we know...
The kid is always cautious and thinks ahead of time...He pulled off being Madara for so long even against someone like Nagato... He's the one causing the most damage in the war right now...even more than madara himself...

Well, do you really think he's not prepared for Madara? Remember what he said when the sixth coffin was opened... He didn't think he'd be defeated, he just thought Madara could "dent" his project.

So what is this Ace I'm thinking?

- Think about all the Sharingan eyes tobi took for himself

- Think about all the Uchiha dna available to him

- Think about the Extra Right Eye Rinnegan He has somewhere

- What about his statement at the Kage Meeting about Collecting good eyes

- Think about his learning of Edo Tensei from Kabuto

- Think about the resources he has for Cloning

Where ever that lab is...it's different from where he showed Kabuto...

If he can produce an innumerable number of Zetsu's why not Himself?
OR

a possibility of Resurrected Uchiha army behind HIM...?

Kishi did say afterall that we're going to see some more character right?

Should kishi not do anything with this Tobi's lab and the right Rinnegan, and Shisui's right eye...then I'd remove him from my list of geniuses... These are the questions I'd be asking kishi on interviews (about tobi's lab of sharingans) not some idiotic question like "what do your kids call you"? lol...

Yep this is possible, lot of people been wondering about those eyes he kept. Question is, would that all be over-kill?

Fuuin · 01-16-2013, 06:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scallanan

I'm just wondering why obito hasn't done a suicide attack with the juubi yet. Madara is an edo tensei so he'll just be revived, and obito can let objects pass through him so he won't take any damage. Within the chaos, kakashi wouldn't be able to use his MS. And the juubi has a hard exterior that it won't feel much of an impact

I think the idea is that both of them are required to control the Juubi. If they suicide bomb, Obito has to ditch, and Juubi might break free and cause more trouble than its worth.

Maruko · 01-21-2013, 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fuuin

I think the idea is that both of them are required to control the Juubi. If they suicide bomb, Obito has to ditch, and Juubi might break free and cause more trouble than its worth.

Totally.
But Madara can make a Mokuton clone and use it to control the Juubi while he suicides. :P
Mokuton clone is the same as the original, and way stronger than Kage Bunshin.

Hawks · 01-21-2013, 03:44 PM

I always assumed that those extra Sharingans were backups in case he needed to use Izanagi like he did when fighting Konan. He left out one of the Rinnegan's because he needed to to keep his Sharingan to use Kamui.

He likes to stockpile other strong eyes like Sasuke's and Shisui's just because they have powers that could prove useful later. I don't think Tobi has anything else planned, at this point.

kalmeast · 02-02-2013, 12:13 AM

Now that the 4 kages have been resurrected and would be heading towards the battlefield, who are they going to fight against ? The Alliance OR MadarObi?

If we don't see an army of Uchiha at least these characters we would see... From Obito's ET...

Uchiha Shisui

Uzumaki Kushina

Hatake Sakumo (aka white fang)

Uchiha Izuna

These are the only remaining Legendary 4 shinobi we haven't seen yet and we are bound to see them.
So think about it. 4 legendary Hokage have been awaken, and who'd fight them except for the last 4 legendary Shinobi listed above.

As to who'd battle who? that'd be some epic sight.

Lastly, perhaps jiraiya to take care of Orochimaru.

BMC1994 · 02-02-2013, 04:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kalmeast

Food-For-Thought

A lot of us underestimate Tobi but I bet He could turn out to be an even smarter character than we know...
The kid is always cautious and thinks ahead of time...He pulled off being Madara for so long even against someone like Nagato... He's the one causing the most damage in the war right now...even more than madara himself...

Well, do you really think he's not prepared for Madara? Remember what he said when the sixth coffin was opened... He didn't think he'd be defeated, he just thought Madara could "dent" his project.

So what is this Ace I'm thinking?

- Think about all the Sharingan eyes tobi took for himself

- Think about all the Uchiha dna available to him

- Think about the Extra Right Eye Rinnegan He has somewhere

- What about his statement at the Kage Meeting about Collecting good eyes

- Think about his learning of Edo Tensei from Kabuto

- Think about the resources he has for Cloning

Where ever that lab is...it's different from where he showed Kabuto...

If he can produce an innumerable number of Zetsu's why not Himself?
OR

a possibility of Resurrected Uchiha army behind HIM...?

Kishi did say afterall that we're going to see some more character right?

Should kishi not do anything with this Tobi's lab and the right Rinnegan, and Shisui's right eye...then I'd remove him from my list of geniuses... These are the questions I'd be asking kishi on interviews (about tobi's lab of sharingans) not some idiotic question like "what do your kids call you"? lol...

Zetsu army enhanced with both yamato and ~~actionreplays~~Sharigans that wouldve made this war much more awesome.

Why does everyone consider kushina legendary? Why not go for karin in that case i mean shes alive and an easy catch. Being born in a good clan doesnt make you legendary look at hinata.

konoha chimp · 02-02-2013, 04:50 AM

A Resurrected Uchiha army would be so epic

I have my doubts but I really want this to happen

Vivi · 02-02-2013, 05:57 AM

Resurrected Uchiha Army?

Dude, this almost screams for Tobirama to revive some Senju.

Madara vs Hashirama
Izuna vs Tobirama
Kagami vs Hiruzen
Obito vs Minato
Sasuke vs Naruto

I dunno, Mikoto vs Toka.

We need some Toka, Kishi is implying her Genjutsu power to be on par if not superior to Itachi.

konoha chimp · 02-02-2013, 06:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vivi

Resurrected Uchiha Army?

Dude, this almost screams for Tobirama to revive some Senju.

Madara vs Hashirama
Izuna vs Tobirama
Kagami vs Hiruzen
Obito vs Minato
Sasuke vs Naruto

I dunno, Mikoto vs Toka.

We need some Toka, Kishi is implying her Genjutsu power to be on par if not superior to Itachi.

Oh god please make this happen!!!

kalmeast · 02-02-2013, 11:05 AM

heh!...i forgot about kagami... all uchiha vs the 4 kages...that'd deliver epicness for certain.

paradigm1977 · 02-02-2013, 11:45 AM

Personally, I don't think Tobi is that smart, just experienced with his jutsu and planning.

Without Kabs and his ETs, Obito would have been stomped already. And as we've seen, his rep has only been going down over time. He's Obito and he hurts inside.

FireShadow · 02-02-2013, 05:05 PM

no.

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Spectual · 02-02-2013, 05:10 PM

Has he used any of his Rinnegan dojutsu's yet( and i don't mean six paths).They could be an advantage to his power and they MAY be different from Nagato's dojutsu so we could be in for a surprise.

Ninja maths!

Kakashi + Nagato = Obito?

01-15-2013, 10:01 PM	#1
kalmeast Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Yttik A Ni Neddih Egalliv Posts: 2,755 Rep Power: 14 Member's Picture Albums	Tobi's Ace In The Hole - FFT Food-For-Thought A lot of us underestimate Tobi but I bet He could turn out to be an even smarter character than we know... The kid is always cautious and thinks ahead of time...He pulled off being Madara for so long even against someone like Nagato... He's the one causing the most damage in the war right now...even more than madara himself... Well, do you really think he's not prepared for Madara? Remember what he said when the sixth coffin was opened... He didn't think he'd be defeated, he just thought Madara could "dent" his project. So what is this Ace I'm thinking? - Think about all the Sharingan eyes tobi took for himself - Think about all the Uchiha dna available to him - Think about the Extra Right Eye Rinnegan He has somewhere - What about his statement at the Kage Meeting about Collecting good eyes - Think about his learning of Edo Tensei from Kabuto - Think about the resources he has for Cloning Where ever that lab is...it's different from where he showed Kabuto... If he can produce an innumerable number of Zetsu's why not Himself? OR a possibility of Resurrected Uchiha army behind HIM...? Kishi did say afterall that we're going to see some more character right? Should kishi not do anything with this Tobi's lab and the right Rinnegan, and Shisui's right eye...then I'd remove him from my list of geniuses... These are the questions I'd be asking kishi on interviews (about tobi's lab of sharingans) not some idiotic question like "what do your kids call you"? lol... __________________ Hashi's DNA + FTG = Time Travel To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. When Rikoudo Entered Sage Mode, His Hair Changed To Dreadlocks. Critic: "Your S1 alludes to Beethoven's "fate" Brahms: "any ass can see that"... such class of reverence

01-15-2013, 10:29 PM	#2
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Ghost4321 Apprentice Genin Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: your backyard shed Posts: 135 Rep Power: 1	Re: Tobi's Ace In The Hole - FFT I may be wrong, but didn't danzo destroy/seal his shisui eye when he died? I might be mistaken tho. And Itachi had the other one, which he put it in a bird that he put in naruto, that came out of naruto, and after it was used on himself he burned it with his eye flames. So both of shisuis eyes are gone.(I never checked b4 I posted this about his eyes so I might be wrong) I am concerned about all those Uchiha eyes tho, and I'm going to guess that he got all of them from the clan right after Itachi killed them. That right Rinnegan is prolly in one of the cases with the rest of the eyes, I wonder what hes going to do with that. All in all I think(completely inplosable) that he found a way to combine all the eyes together or something o.0 lol or he might have edo'd the whole clan and there hiding somewhere already with there eyes from the wall either way rep up for nice post __________________ Speed is Weight ~~~FACEWALL~~~ Might Gui Sensei's Eight Sayian Gates

01-16-2013, 03:42 AM	#4
Kyūbi no Yōko Special Jonin Candidate Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 3,432 Rep Power: 10	Re: Tobi's Ace In The Hole - FFT Tobi is very cautious, smart and plans ahead as you mentioned. It's really unbelievable, when we saw him as a kid we didn't expect someone so strong in the future, but it turned out that he was very smart. It seems more reasonable to have an Uchiha army ressurected, but I had another idea, what if he merges different powers all in his body. Oh and, there's no way Madara can defeat him, his ego is an obstacle and he doesn't think. He might be great in battlefields, strong, etc. but he's no leader, he wants to do it all by himself, but in fact, numbers can make a difference. That's why Tobi is smarter, he doesn't overestimate himself, he knows his limits. An Uchiha Army might be ressurected. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Welcome to reality. ~\|\|~\|\|~\|\|~\|\|~\|\|~\|\|~\|\|~\|\|~\|\|~\|\|~\|\|~\|\|~\|\|~\|\|~ universe.

01-16-2013, 05:07 AM	#5
DrKage Genin Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 341 Rep Power: 3	Re: Tobi's Ace In The Hole - FFT What's the goal of the Sharingan and Uchiha DNA? He can't use them in the moddle of battle and if he had made a bunch of Zetsu clones, mixed Uchiha DNA in with the Senju DNA and given a bunch of them Sharingan, I think we would have seen that by now. Maybe he's done something with the Rinnegan. And no way would he use the Edo Tensei right now after nothing but a brief overview of it from Kabuto whom he didn't trust at all. Expecially now that he sees a broken away free Edo-Madara standing right next to him.

01-16-2013, 05:51 AM	#6
scallanan Genin Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 334 Rep Power: 2	Re: Tobi's Ace In The Hole - FFT I'm just wondering why obito hasn't done a suicide attack with the juubi yet. Madara is an edo tensei so he'll just be revived, and obito can let objects pass through him so he won't take any damage. Within the chaos, kakashi wouldn't be able to use his MS. And the juubi has a hard exterior that it won't feel much of an impact __________________ People were created to be loved. Things were created to be used. The reason the world is in chaos, is because things are being loved, and people are being used.

01-21-2013, 03:44 PM	#10
Hawks Freshmen Academy Student Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 9 Rep Power: 0	Re: Tobi's Ace In The Hole - FFT I always assumed that those extra Sharingans were backups in case he needed to use Izanagi like he did when fighting Konan. He left out one of the Rinnegan's because he needed to to keep his Sharingan to use Kamui. He likes to stockpile other strong eyes like Sasuke's and Shisui's just because they have powers that could prove useful later. I don't think Tobi has anything else planned, at this point.

02-02-2013, 12:13 AM	#11
kalmeast Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Yttik A Ni Neddih Egalliv Posts: 2,755 Rep Power: 14 Member's Picture Albums	Re: Tobi's Ace In The Hole - FFT Now that the 4 kages have been resurrected and would be heading towards the battlefield, who are they going to fight against ? The Alliance OR MadarObi? If we don't see an army of Uchiha at least these characters we would see... From Obito's ET... Uchiha Shisui Uzumaki Kushina Hatake Sakumo (aka white fang) Uchiha Izuna These are the only remaining Legendary 4 shinobi we haven't seen yet and we are bound to see them. So think about it. 4 legendary Hokage have been awaken, and who'd fight them except for the last 4 legendary Shinobi listed above. As to who'd battle who? that'd be some epic sight. Lastly, perhaps jiraiya to take care of Orochimaru. __________________ Hashi's DNA + FTG = Time Travel To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. When Rikoudo Entered Sage Mode, His Hair Changed To Dreadlocks. Critic: "Your S1 alludes to Beethoven's "fate" Brahms: "any ass can see that"... such class of reverence

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kalmeast Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Yttik A Ni Neddih Egalliv Posts: 2,755 Rep Power: 14 Member's Picture Albums	Re: Tobi's Ace In The Hole - FFT heh!...i forgot about kagami... all uchiha vs the 4 kages...that'd deliver epicness for certain. __________________ Hashi's DNA + FTG = Time Travel To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. When Rikoudo Entered Sage Mode, His Hair Changed To Dreadlocks. Critic: "Your S1 alludes to Beethoven's "fate" Brahms: "any ass can see that"... such class of reverence

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paradigm1977 Chunin Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Philadelphia, PA, USA Posts: 1,133 Rep Power: 6	Re: Tobi's Ace In The Hole - FFT Personally, I don't think Tobi is that smart, just experienced with his jutsu and planning. Without Kabs and his ETs, Obito would have been stomped already. And as we've seen, his rep has only been going down over time. He's Obito and he hurts inside. __________________ Where are the Akatsuki Avatars? I want Kakuzu.

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Spectual Chunin Join Date: May 2012 Location: I live where I live. Posts: 952 Rep Power: 4	Re: Tobi's Ace In The Hole - FFT Has he used any of his Rinnegan dojutsu's yet( and i don't mean six paths).They could be an advantage to his power and they MAY be different from Nagato's dojutsu so we could be in for a surprise. Ninja maths! Kakashi + Nagato = Obito?

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