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Old 01-30-2013, 12:57 PM   #101
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I think Sasuke actually has enough power already. Remember that he's supposed to be a genius. He's already acquired huge skill with little effort just from his genes, and let's remember that he already can control the Kyuubi without actually possessing any of its chakra anyway -- which should make all of us wonder why Madara has any sort of trouble with Naruto at this point. After all, the Kyuubi was controlled by Madara and/or Obito (who cares?) before its chakra was divided, which is the impetus of the entire story to begin with. Sasuke doesn't need another powerup -- he needs a clue.
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Old 01-30-2013, 12:57 PM   #102
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I suppose that is why Sasuke was shown in Konoha right next.

Even if it isn't it's stupid considering from one panel to another they'd be in completely different places.

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NOT A SINGLE PERSON in Konoha seems to find it suspicious that 4 heavily cloaked men walk around openly during time of war.
Uh...people walk around cloaked all the time, w--t--f. War or no war, how is this a problem? Guess we should have had a subplot about Sasuke and them getting spotted and chased down by Konohamaru. Would have been the right way to satisfy some readers.
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Old 01-30-2013, 01:52 PM   #103
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This chapter wasn't bad.. It wasn't the best of the best but it gave us some information and revealed who the ones who knew everything were (who they were wasn't surprising).
I'm just glad Sasuke and the gang are back

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Old 01-30-2013, 02:05 PM   #104
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Uh...people walk around cloaked all the time, w--t--f. War or no war, how is this a problem? Guess we should have had a subplot about Sasuke and them getting spotted and chased down by Konohamaru. Would have been the right way to satisfy some readers.
If you don't see a problem with 4 hooded and cloaked figures strolling around Konoha openly without a problem when the world is at war then there is something wrong with you.

But let me guess, you also got no problem that the likes of Anko or Yamato are treated as if they're non-existant.

And I'm not "some" readers, don't give me that crap, unlike "some" others I can actually tell what's good and what's not and trust me I'm really far from the only one that shares my thoughts about Kishi.

At any rate, don't give me such an ass attitude when obviously you don't even know what a quality manga really is.

Actual authors would care about such things, look at the likes of SnK.
Same Situation, Eren and the gang had to walk cloaked and hooded through the city but had to use their brains instead of strolling through, using a decoy to distract guards and making their way through alleys and underground.
Those guys aren't even remotely Ninjas but behave more like them as in Naruto.

THAT's how you write such situations not:
We are Ninja's, that's why we walk in the open, right in front of people, hooded and cloaked, at the time of war.
Screw those people, they're dummies, and cause I feel like it, I go straight ontop of a building, of course not a soul see's me or thinks we are suspicious deeeeeeeeeerp.

Read more, cause Kishi is really pushing it here, heck he's never been great this has chapter has proven it again.

He's at best a mediocre Mangaka and it was shown again.
For real good reads and how a manga should be try the likes of Shingeki no Kyojin, Umineko or One Piece cause reading quality works opens eyes about those that aren't.
I used to think:
"NARUTO!" I admit I used to be a major Narutard.
But reading actual ones made me realize Kishi just sucks but if it helps, not as much as O!G.
Read Umineko to see how a real manga should be despite it being tremendously complicated.
2 chapters alone have more character development for side characters than Kishi did throughout the entire manga to the point that you actually feel sad about their deaths.
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If you don't see a problem with 4 hooded and cloaked figures strolling around Konoha openly without a problem when the world is at war then there is something wrong with you.

But let me guess, you also got no problem that the likes of Anko or Yamato are treated as if they're non-existant.

And I'm not "some" readers, don't give me that crap, unlike "some" others I can actually tell what's good and what's not and trust me I'm really far from the only one that shares my thoughts about Kishi.

At any rate, don't give me such an ass attitude when obviously you don't even know what a quality manga really is.
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Old 01-30-2013, 02:21 PM   #106
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OML Edo Tensei might just be the most annoying jutsu in history. Can Kishi please let his characters exit the show. How many times has Minato reappeared already. Kishi couldn't think of anything else. How about the super prophet toad elder on Mount Myoboku who's predictions basically led to Jiraiya and Naruto's legacy. Maybe we could even meet the slug elder who has been suggested to exist but hasn't been shown. I remember there was a time where the panels of Naruto were so epic I'd get chills looking at them. Now seeing the 4 Kages side by side did absolutely nothing for me.
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Stop with Edo Tensei, Kishi messed that up as well.

"Lol, you can't summon the Kage with Edo Tensei cause they're sealed within the Shinigami."
Without a foreshadow, without any clue it's suddenly possible despite telling us they can't.Bah.
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Old 01-30-2013, 02:34 PM   #108
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Its funny how everyone is missing the point that Hashirama Senju is back and that Madara Uchiha is also back! What did Madara say long ago??? "Only Hashirama can stop me!" And then Hashirama will sense Madara Uchiha's chakra and go and finish everything and the other 3 will go help and Minato will talk with Naruto! Hopefully! It all depends on Orochimaru as he is the controller now!
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The travel skip was annoying but I can't do anything about it so I'll suck it up and live on...

But the chapter pisses me off just as much as it sort of intieges me. For me, I do like the fact the Hokages are back. It will be good to see them with the latest generation but also like some people have said. They have been laid to rest and everyone's just being brought back to life which is annoying yes bla bla bla not gonna ramble on about edo tensei and reanimation.

Ok so how did they obtain the shinigamis masks so easily and how come it took kishi this long to even mention it. Seems to me like he's writing the story as it goes (sarcasm) and not really thinking but he's entertaining the audience that loves the story so he's doing his job. I would expect some form of security on the masks or some earlier mentioning like someone said.. In kushinas flashback??

As long as the Hokages are there, they might as well be put to use and be made to do something interesting. The story better not be a typical reunion or battle. I suppose some information will be leaked and sasuke finds out bought minato and naruto bla bla bla who knows but i guess I'm expecting something major.

First and Madara for example but are they going to the battlefield.??? HMMMMMMMMMMM
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Personally I feel with the Hokages coming back things are either going to get real good or really bad however, I'm feeling positive about the whole thing atm, whatever the case, the war needs to end soon otherwise, Edo Tensei is going to get really annoying, what next they Edo Tensei the sage of six paths?! (Oh god please don't let that happen)
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Sauce did this earlier. Idk i remember him being cloaked overhearing an convo about itachi and getting pissed.
Yea. That time when he was with Tobi in some tea/snack shop.
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i cant wait to see the hokages fight thou forreal
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It was an okay chapter.

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ya he might be a force to reackin with sence he has both his arms now
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This chapter proves that death means nothing in Naruto since there are so many damn situation to summon dead people to do one's bidding. I mean, I wasn't surprised that the ones who know everything were the past hokage a but I was kinda hoping for someone...I dunno...living. The Ramen Guy would have been a better choice of you ask me...I mean think about it...itd be a nice twist

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I feel Sasuke might change soon. But It sickens me to see Narutos dad revived. But at lest he can learn it and see his dad. =)
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Old 01-30-2013, 03:53 PM   #117
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i totally agree its a good thing i think for the good guys foreal but i really think the hokages would do the same as gaaras dad and aid the good guys and be a bad thing for the bad ones but no one can tell with orichis power he is not as week as kabuto was with the reanimation things
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If you don't see a problem with 4 hooded and cloaked figures strolling around Konoha openly without a problem when the world is at war then there is something wrong with you.

But let me guess, you also got no problem that the likes of Anko or Yamato are treated as if they're non-existant.
Well, who is supposed to stop them?

5 Kage are nearly dead, entire Shinobi alliance is fighting Madara, Obito and Juubi. ANBU whether it is in Konoha or not, arguably cannot stop Jugo and Suigetsu, let Alone Sasuke and Orochimaru. And now that Kage are revived, even harder for any of that to happen.

Anko was shown when Orochimaru came out from her. And it is also possible Yamato will be mentioned again, now that Hashirama is revived!!!

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And I'm not "some" readers, don't give me that crap, unlike "some" others I can actually tell what's good and what's not and trust me I'm really far from the only one that shares my thoughts about Kishi.
To be honest, for some reason this forum is one of the rare ones, if not the only one, where people (not you) constantly complain about what happened in each chapter. No matter how great or how terrible chapter is, complaints are always the same - reviewing what happened with sarcastic comments and "threatening" how they will quit, as if Masashi Kishimoto was really reading their comment.

I find it hard to understand that the most criticism (primarily non-constructive one) and belittling comes from official Naruto forum, while from most others it is complimented and considered one of the best Manga.

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Actual authors would care about such things, look at the likes of SnK.
Same Situation, Eren and the gang had to walk cloaked and hooded through the city but had to use their brains instead of strolling through, using a decoy to distract guards and making their way through alleys and underground.
Those guys aren't even remotely Ninjas but behave more like them as in Naruto.
Masashi Kishimoto is an actual Mangaka and successful one at that (perhaps more successful than some you consider "better" and probably more successful than some who are undoubtedly better).

I don't really see a point in Sasuke sneaking around when there is not one person in Konoha who even remotely represents a danger!!!

Criticizing Naruto characters that they don't behave as real life Ninja hardly means much, especially since this is how it was from the beginning of Manga where Ninja protagonist wears Orange clothes. It is like criticizing Luffy that he doesn't behave like real life pirate or Rin that he doesn't behave like real life exorcist.

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Read more, cause Kishi is really pushing it here, heck he's never been great this has chapter has proven it again.
In my opinion, this chapter was great!!!

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He's at best a mediocre Mangaka and it was shown again.
I strongly disagree with this statement. Masashi Kishimoto proved himself capable of releasing chapters for over 10 years. He also made it very popular and kept it as such. On top of that, Anime was made and is ongoing. Very successful as well.

I am not saying that successful guarantees quality. But Naruto is Top quality Manga. Especially when compared to other works with similar genre, like Bleach, One Piece, Fairy Tail,...

Even Tite Kubo who had quite some difficulties with Bleach cannot be considered anything less than an incredible, amazing, top tier Mangaka.

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For real good reads and how a manga should be try the likes of Shingeki no Kyojin, Umineko or One Piece cause reading quality works opens eyes about those that aren't.
I never read neither Shingeki no Kyojin nor Umineko. I may try them, since you are quite knowledgeable.

And while I consider One Piece a great series, I wouldn't put it on the same level as Naruto, let alone say it is better!!!

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I used to think:
"NARUTO!" I admit I used to be a major Narutard.
But reading actual ones made me realize Kishi just sucks but if it helps, not as much as O!G.
Read Umineko to see how a real manga should be despite it being tremendously complicated.
2 chapters alone have more character development for side characters than Kishi did throughout the entire manga to the point that you actually feel sad about their deaths.
I understand that there is something that you don't like about Naruto or that you are somehow dissatisfied. But saying Masashi Kishimoto is a mediocre Mangaka is too harsh and most of all, is repeatedly shown to be wrong.

There are some things that not everyone will enjoy but that doesn't make it bad!!!

Admittedly, I didn't watch many Anime nor read many Manga but of all that I did, I would place Naruto number one!!!

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So all orochimaru fights after hiruzen fight were....without his arms and jutsu!?LOL so it means he is immenselly more powerfull with his arms...


Anyway did he die?or he transfered to zetsu body?Isn't zetsu body too weak?but now he got Hashirama DNA i suppose.
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I deliberately see Oro turning good out of all these years ...
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