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Old 01-23-2013, 06:34 PM   #281
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Neither of us are childish. We are having a debate. We both respect each other's opinions and we are not arguing.

But anyway...

Kimimaro did not live after his fight with Gaara. However, at the time of his death he felt that he had a purpose. But Gaara still didnt have one at the time. Yes, Gaara is still alive. But he went much longer than Kimi did without a purpose in life until he became Kazekage. So therefor his life in general, was worse than Kimi's until he became a kage.

So see? Im not trying to say that Kimi did or did not fail. All Im trying to say is that he had a purpose up until he died. Yes, when he died he couldnt be Orochimaru's vessel. But it doesnt matter because he knew he would die. But he still felt happiness in his heart thinking that a part of him would still live on inside Orochimaru. When Gaara was taken by the Akatsuki he still didnt know whether or not he had fulfilled his purpose in life. He still wasnt sure if anyone needed him. But Kimimaro did know that Orochimaru needed him.
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And Garra achieved it... Kimi did not TRUTHFULLY
I know Sasuke was his main goal. But he still wanted Kimi to be his first vessel. Kimimaro was more powerful. Kimi was important to Oro before he died. Even if he was sick.
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I know Sasuke was his main goal. But he still wanted Kimi to be his first vessel. Kimimaro was more powerful. Kimi was important to Oro before he died. Even if he was sick.
Oro wanted Kimmi first cuz he was closer and ready.. until illness
at the time kimmi was more powerful but if Oro had PTS Saskue's body agains Kimi's body Oro with Saskue would win

Prove Kimi was important even in scikness
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Kimimaro did not live after his fight with Gaara. However, at the time of his death he felt that he had a purpose.
but he did not fulllfill his purpose perfectly... can we agree on that
But Gaara still didnt have one at the time.
garra had a purpose to kill which he achieved. Then was later saved by naruto and soon after foound a better and REAL purpose
Yes, Gaara is still alive. But he went much longer than Kimi did without a purpose in life until he became Kazekage.
he did not complain about that much. He achieved a lot without a purpose and more people loved him. He had 2 purposes
So therefor his life in general, was worse than Kimi's until he became a kage.
so it was worse UNTIL something. The point is Garra's life got better. Kimmi's did not. It had ups and downs. Few ups and more downs

So see? Im not trying to say that Kimi did or did not fail. All Im trying to say is that he had a purpose up until he died.
okay but he did not do it perfectly seeing as Saskue is not Oro's vessel
Yes, when he died he couldnt be Orochimaru's vessel. But it doesnt matter because he knew he would die. But he still felt happiness in his heart thinking that a part of him would still live on inside Orochimaru.
but it did not cause the part of him is saskue which is not a vessel
When Gaara was taken by the Akatsuki he still didnt know whether or not he had fulfilled his purpose in life. He still wasnt sure if anyone needed him. But Kimimaro did kow that Orochimaru needed him.
but he really did not even care for Kimmi that much

So having a purpose makes your whole life okay?
Kimmi could not even perfectly fullfill it
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the sound four were no friends just people he worked and fought alongside. They were like his classmates

Oro ditched Kimmi once he was worthless. Oro did not make a big of an impact as the mom or siblings or naruto or his uncle did
Having someone who honors you and will fight for you is way better than being alone. Why do you think Gaara wanted to become Kazekage? He wanted to have people honor him and fight along side him. And even though he had his siblings in the beginning, they werent able to stay by his side while he aimed for the title of kazekage. He had to walk the road of solitude all over again to try to convince people to like him. He knew his siblings wouldnt be able to do that for him. Thats why he broke off from their group. So that he could try to convince others (like yaoki and korobi) that he was not a monster. And he had to do that all on his own. Kimi had the sound five by his side up until the very end. They honored and respected him. And they certainly didnt think he was a monster. Yeah, I know they werent really close to Kimi but they were still his comrades. Thats more than Gaara had. Im sure that Gaara doesnt know all of suna's villagers personally, but they honor him and would fight for him. Kimi had that since he joined Oro. Gaara didnt have that until he became kazekage. Having someone who you honor and revere so much that every hurt inflicted on them is inflicted on you as well is something that Kimimaro had that Gaara didnt. He even said so at the end of their fight. Gaara wanted to be needed like that. And he wanted someone who was like that to him. Kimi had it, but Gaara didnt. So Gaara had it worse.
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Having someone who honors you and will fight for you is way better than being alone.
they were not fighting for Kimmi they were fighting for Oro. It was not friendship they were co-workers at besst. Plus their relationship is not shown. All we know is that they feard him
Why do you think Gaara wanted too become Kazekage? He wanted to have people honor him and fight along side him. And even though he had his siblings in the beginning, they werent able stay by his side while he aimed for the title of kazekage.
and eventually he got just that

He had to walk the road of solitude all over again to try to convince people to like him.
but it was not as hard as last time or when Kimmi did it
He knew his siblings wouldnt be able to do that for him. Thats why he broke off from their group. So that he could try to convince others (like yaoki and korobi) that he was not a monster. And he had to do that all on his own. Kimi had the sound five by his side up until the very end.
you do not know how the S5 worked with Kimmi. THey feared him and Tayuya did not like it when he arrivied. Kimmi even wanted to kill her

They honored and respected him.
no they FEARED him.
And they certainly didnt think he was a monster.
THAT IS A COMPLETELY FALSE
they feared him. Kimmi threatened to kill Tayuya. They did not like him and the s5 treat eachother badly anyhow
Yeah, I know they werent really close to Kimi but they were still his comrades.
they were like classmates that would not talk to him
Thats more than Gaara had.
he had Temari and Kankuro and his sensi



Im sure that Gaara doesnt know all of suna's villagers personally, but they honor him and would fight for him. Kimi had that since he joined Oro.
no they feared him. Kimmi earened the fear by beating them. When they talk about Kimmi when he is not around they do not say honoring/respecting things
Gaara didnt have that until he became kazekage.


Having someone who you honor and revere so much that every hurt inflicted on them is inflicted on you as well is something that Kimimaro had that Gaara didnt. He even said so at the end of their fight.
No no no no no.
They did not care for Kimmi
Nobody on the team respected each other
they did not like each other or care when a comrade fell

Gaara wanted to be needed like that. And he wanted someone who was like that to him. Kimi had it, but Gaara didnt. So Gaara had it worse.
You are assuming again
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So having a purpose makes your whole life okay?
Kimmi could not even perfectly fullfill it
Yes it does. Everyone in life NEEDS a purpose. As Gaara said "to exist for no reason, is the same as being dead."

When Orochimaru found Kimimaro he said to him "maybe, just maybe, their is no purpose in life. But if you linger a while longer in this world, you might discover something of value in it. Like, how you discovered that flower. Or, how I discovered you one fateful night"

But when Kimimaro was fighting Gaara he realized that everyone has something that they're meant to do with their lives. And he felt that his purpose in life was to serve Orochimaru. In any way that he could. And he did that valiantly. He died for Oro, for heaven's sake! He had someone in his life who meant something to him.

Gaara did not have anyone like that until he became kazekage. Dont you see that what Im telling you is the truth, peace? You asked me if I understood what true lonliness was. I do. I understand that if you have a purpose, and if you have atleast one person who you are willing to give your life for, you are not alone. Why? Because you care so much for that person so they are almost like a part of you. Now that Gaara is Kazekage he has someone who he is willing to die for. His village. And they in turn need him. So he is no longer alone. But he did not know that they needed him when the Akatsuki took him. Only after he was revived did he know. Yashamaru said "well love is the heart's desire to serve someone who is precious to you." So when finally saw that the vilagers cared about him after what he had done, he got to feel love for the first time in his life.

But Kimimaro felt that love from the moment he met Orochimaru. From the moment Oro touched his face and said "come, its time to go". He felt like Orochimaru was someone who was precious to him. And he wanted to serve Orochimaru. And so, he was not alone. But Gaara on the other hand, felt all alone up until he realized his village accepted him. And that wasnt until he was revived.
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Im not assuming. But even if the sound five hated him, that doesnt change the fact that Kimi cared for Oro.
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Yes it does. Everyone in life NEEDS a purpose. As Gaara said "to exist for no reason, is the same as being dead."
Well Garra had 2
-to kill
(lost his way to find a better one for a shorter time when he was insane)
-to fight for people he loves

Kimmi only had one which was not what he thought it was

When Orochimaru found Kimimaro he said to him "maybe, just maybe, their is no purpose in life. But if you linger a while longer in this world, you might discover something of value in it. Like, how you discovered that flower. Or, how I discovered you one fateful night"
so this was not Kimmi's purpose he just found something and went with it

But when Kimimaro was fighting Gaara he realized that everyone has something that they're meant to do with their lives. And he felt that his purpose in life was to serve Orochimaru. In any way that he could. And he did that valiantly. He died for Oro, for heaven's sake! He had someone in his life who meant something to him.
he did do it... but not succesffully cuz saskue is not the vessel

Gaara did not have anyone like that until he became kazekage.
oh no Garra did not have an evil sinister lying creep mentor like Oro poor Garra
Dont you see that what Im telling you is the truth, peace?
Most of it.. not all
You asked me if I understood what true lonliness was. I do. I understand that if you have a purpose, and if you have atleast one person who you are willing to give your life to, you are not alone. If you understand true lonliness as well, then you should understand this.
but Garra's life got better and he found it

Now that Gaara is Kazekage he has someone who he is willing to die for. His village. And they in turn need him. So he is no longer alone. But he did not know that they needed him when the Akatsuki took him. Only after he was revived did he know. Yashamaru said "well love is the heart's desire to serve someone who is precious to you." So when finally saw that the vilagers cared about him after what he had done, he got to feel love for the first time in his life.
Kimmi never felt that from so many people trutfully. Garra is now way happier so his childhood was hard but not as tragic

But Kimimaro felt that love from the moment he met Orochimaru. From the moment Oro touched his face and said "come, its time to go". He felt like Orochimaru was someone who was precious to him. And he wanted to serve Orochimaru. And so, he was not alone. But Gaara on the other hand, felt all alone up until he realized his village accepted him. And that wasnt until he was revived.
At least Garra found it and has lots more people and love. garra also cheated death.
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Im not assuming. But even if the sound five hated him, that doesnt change the fact that Kimi cared for Oro.

Wow 1 person Kimmi had one while Garra had

-sibilings
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At least Garra found it and has lots more people and love. garra also cheated death.
Kimi found it too. You just arent acknoledging that Kimi found Oro.

One time in my life, not too long ago, I had someone tell me that you need a purpose in life. I told him that I knew that. And he told me that if I was smart enough to think like that, then I needed to do something with my life. I agree. Right now, I dont have a purpose in life. So you might as well say Im alone. Because if you cant even help yourself in life, then how do you expect anyone else to? And then, when you get older, you will end up nowhere, with nothing, and you'll have no one. And you will truely be all alone in the world to fend for yourself. Im already like that. I realize that the path im on right now in life will lead me absolutely nowhere. And most people would be overcome by depression if they realized what I realize. But I remember something from Naruto every time I get discouraged. And that's to not give up. Gaara gave up at one point in his life. He lived only to kill. His path in life was leading him nowhere. But he met Naruto. And he learned to not give up. He kept hope. And finally, he succeeded. I will keep hope too.

Atleast Kimimaro never gave up in life. Gaara gave up once. He was walking through the darkness. Just like Sasuke. But Sasuke and Gaara are very different. Gaara was forced into the darkness. But when he found light, he did not turn away. Sauke on the other hand, closed his eyes to the light. He only seeks darkness now. Thats why Gaara believes that there's no hope for Sasuke. Its like I said: how can you expect anyone to help you, if you dont want to help yourself?

So you see, there's another reason why Kimi's life was never as bad as Gaara's. He was like Sasuke in one way, though. His eyes were like Sasuke's. He wanted to prove the value of his existence. But atleast he never gave up in that quest. Gaara had to at one point in his life. He couldnt prove the value of his existence to anyone unless he killed. And that, of course, got him nowhere. So he stopped caring about Humans in general. Thinking of them only as lumps of flesh, even his siblings, unfortunately. Kimi never had that mindset.

And atleast Kimi did not have to harbor a tailed beast. I only wish that Gaara could have became friends with Shukaku like Naruto did. But no. Gaara has to look back on that part of his life in disappointment. Naruto on the other hand, can be happy that he was and is a Jinchuriki. Because he has accepted that fact, and made the most of it. But Gaara, when he thinks about how he used to be the Jinchuriki of Shukaku, he can only think of how he used to be nothing but hatred and power. He told the shinobi alliance that. It makes me sad. I dont want Gaara to feel bad about anything that happened in his past. But I am happy about one thing. His father told him that all a parent needs to do is believe in their children. And his father was the one who made him into a jinchuriki. Gaara always felt disappointed in himself when he was a jinchuriki because he thought that his father didnt think he had any value. But when his father just as good as said he did have value, I think Gaara was a lot happier about remembering being a jinchuriki. But that makes me sad also that Gaara had to carry around that wound all the way up until he fought his father again.

Atleast Kimi did not have to live with those kinds of wounds.

And yes, Gaara came back to life. But I think that after all he went through, he deserved it. Dont you? After all, as a jinchuriki Gaara never had a chance at life. No matter how hard he tried it always ended badly. And chiyo knew that. So she gave him a chance at a better life. And atleast Kimi didnt have to die by having a biju ripped out of him. I still despise the akatsuki with every fiber of my body because of that.
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Kimi found it too. You just arent acknoledging that Kimi found Oro.
*acknolwedges*

One time in my life, not too long ago, I had someone tell me that you need a purpose in life. I told him that I knew that. And he told me that if I was smart enough to think like that, then I needed to do something with my life. I agree. Right now, I dont have a purpose in life. So you might as well say Im alone. Because if you cant even help yourself in life, then how do you expect anyone else to? And then, when you get older, you will end up nowhere, with nothing, and you'll have no one. And you will truely be all alone in the world to fend for yourself. Im already like that. I realize that the path im on right now in life will lead me absolutely nowhere. And most people would be overcome by depression if they realized what I realize. But I remember something from Naruto every time I get discouraged. And that's to not give up.Gaara gave up at one point in his life. He lived only to kill. His path in life was leading him nowhere. But he met Naruto. And he learned to not give up. He kept hope. And finally, he succeeded. I will keep hope too.
It will come to you when the time comes

Atleast Kimimaro never gave up in life. Gaara gave up once. He was walking through the darkness. Just like Sasuke. But Sasuke and Gaara are very different. Gaara was forced into the darkness.
Kimi was born in the darkness (he said so himself)
But when he found light, he did not turn away. Sauke on the other hand, closed his eyes to the light. He only seeks darkness now. Thats why Gaara believes that there's no hope for Sasuke. Its like I said: how can you expect anyone to help you, if you dont want to help yourself?


So you see, there's another reason why Kimi's life was never as bad as Gaara's. He was like Sasuke in one way, though. His eyes were like Sasuke's. He wanted to prove the value of his existence. But atleast he never gave up in that quest.
kimmi still failed and nobody really TRUELY cared for him
Gaara had to at one point in his life. He couldnt prove the value of his existence to anyone unless he killed.
and that is how he proved it. Until he found a better alternative
And that, of course, got him nowhere.
killing pleased him
So he stopped caring about Humans in general. Thinking of them only as lumps of flesh, even his siblings, unfortunately. Kimi never had that mindset.
he thought others were trash besdies Oro

And atleast Kimi did not have to harbor a tailed beast.
that was the only major thing worse about gara... BUT HE GOT IT REMOVED. But Garra doe snot know the pain of being and edo
I only wish that Gaara could have became friends with Shukaku like Naruto did. But no. Gaara has to look back on that part of his life in disappointment. Naruto on the other hand, can be happy that he was and is a Jinchuriki. Because he has accepted that fact, and made the most of it. But Gaara, when he thinks about how he used to be the Jinchuriki of Shukaku, he can only think of how he used to be nothing but hatred and power. He told the shinobi alliance that. It makes me sad. I dont want Gaara to feel bad about anything that happened in his past.
Kimi did not like that he failed oro. And as an edo he relived pain. He was used against his will. His new master was Kabuto and not Oro. Garra does not know the pain of being an edo
But I am happy about one thing. His father told him that all a parent needs to do is believe in their children. And his father was the one who made him into a jinchuriki. Gaara always felt disappointed in himself when he was a jinchuriki because he thought that his father didnt think he had any value. But when his father just as good as said he did have value, I think Gaara was a lot happier about remembering being a jinchuriki. But that makes me sad also that Gaara had to carry around that wound all the way up until he fought his father again.
well its gone and he is okay. Kimmi still carries his pain

Atleast Kimi did not have to live with those kinds of wounds.
his wounds never healed

And yes, Gaara came back to life. But I think that after all he went through, he deserved it. Dont you?
yes but kimmi did not get a happy ending
After all, as a jinchuriki Gaara never had a chance at life.
neither did a prisoner of war
No matter how hard he tried it always ended badly. And chiyo knew that. So she gave him a chance at a better life. And atleast Kimi didnt have to die by having a biju ripped out of him. I still despise the akatsuki with every fiber of my body because of that.
at least Garra was not an edo
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Let's come to an agreement/conclusion

Garra had the worst CHILDHOOD
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Kimmairo had the worst LIFE

Is that fair enough? I may admit defeat.. well kinda of on a technicality because I guess teen years are not childhood. Plus Garra's life got better while Kimmario's ended
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Yes I do believe we can come to an agreement, too.
It is true that Gaara's life got better when Kimimaro's ended.
But all Kimi wanted in life was to be important to Orochimaru. Kabuto summoned him as an edo. Therefor, his existence wasnt meaningless to Oro. He was still useful, even after death. Although that doesnt improve the quality of his life, it still gives his overall existence a purpose.

Gaara has lived longer than Kimi did. But Kimi lived until the age of 15. So we need to determine who's life was better or worse in the 15 years that they both lived. Gaara's life after he was ressurected doesnt count.

Ok, so all of the things that happened in Gaara's life up until he was Kazekage were very tragic. So were Kimi's. But I think we both agree that Gaara's circumstances were a little harder to overcome.

And yes, Kimi was not able to overcome his illness, and eventually died. While Gaara overcame people's perceptions of him, and became Kazekage. However, the Akatsuki then kidnapped him. And he died as well. At the same age as Kimi. 15.

So honestly I think if we are going to be able to judge who had the best life, we need to determine who had the best fate. Gaara and Kimi's fate was the same. No matter how much they both strove to succeed and be useful, they both got killed. Gaara got revived. But can we really count that? How can we compare Gaara's life after he was resurrected to Kimi's if Kimi wasnt resurrected and we dont know how his life would have been like if he had been revived?

But yes, I am sure that what you said about Kimi earlier is the truth. Gaara is Kazekage. And Kimi's life couldnt have turned out any better than Gaara's even if he had lived. But if he had lived, he still would have died. Because then he would have became Oro's vessel. So can we even say that Kimi had it worse just because he didnt get the chance to live? I mean, he wanted to die anyway.

Overall, it comes down to purpose in life. And we already discussed that they both fulfilled their purposes in their lives. So here is my conclusion:

Both Gaara and Kimi had an equally tragic life.

And Gaara had the worst childhood, although Kimi's (and Sasuke's) are probably the closest to his in how tragic it was.
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Yes I do believe we can come to an agreement, too.
It is true that Gaara's life got better when Kimimaro's ended.
But all Kimi wanted in life was to be important to Orochimaru. Kabuto summoned him as an edo. Therefor, his existence wasnt meaningless to Oro.
kabuto summoned him not Oro. And Kimmi was strong no doubt about it. Plus this was a different Kimmi cuz he had no illness
He was still useful, even after death. Although that doesnt improve the quality of his life, it still gives his overall existence a purpose.

Gaara has lived longer than Kimi did. But Kimi lived until the age of 15. So we need to determine who's life was better or worse in the 15 years that they both lived. Gaara's life after he was ressurected doesnt count.
lol why not

Ok, so all of the things that happened in Gaara's life up until he was Kazekage were very tragic.
-his uncle's love was not tragic
-Naruto knocking sense into him
-Garra saving his comrades (lee)
-Finding a meaning in life (to kill)
Were not tragic
So were Kimi's. But I think we both agree that Gaara's circumstances were a little harder to overcome.
still not in agreement

And yes, Kimi was not able to overcome his illness, and eventually died. While Gaara overcame people's perceptions of him, and became Kazekage. However, the Akatsuki then kidnapped him. And he died as well. At the same age as Kimi. 15.
but he was brought back to life relieved of the burden of being a jinjurki realizing that people loved him.
Kimi came back to life... but as an edo and people still did not love him

So honestly I think if we are going to be able to judge who had the best life, we need to determine who had the best fate. Gaara and Kimi's fate was the same. No matter how much they both strove to succeed and be useful, they both got killed.
the village people cared for Garra. They were cheering for him and rooting him on before death and they were all worried about him.
Gaara got revived. But can we really count that?
of course why not! Kimi was brought back to life as well... but in a worse case
How can we compare Gaara's life after he was resurrected to Kimi's if Kimi wasnt resurrected and we dont know how his life would have been like if he had been revived?
Kimmi also died
Everyone dies with the CS
So techinically Kimmi died twice and was brought back to life twice

But yes, I am sure that what you said about Kimi earlier is the truth. Gaara is Kazekage. And Kimi's life couldnt have turned out any better than Gaara's even if he had lived. But if he had lived, he still would have died. Because then he would have became Oro's vessel. So can we even say that Kimi had it worse just because he didnt get the chance to live? I mean, he wanted to die anyway.
Kimmi was ill and could be no vessel he was bed ridden most of his life

Overall, it comes down to purpose in life. And we already discussed that they both fulfilled their purposes in their lives. So here is my conclusion:

Both Gaara and Kimi had an equally tragic life.
Garra had a worse childhood. (COme on now he is kazekage for pete sake. He is respected by the shinobi alliance. he has a purpose he is loved he has no bijju he is fine. I wishi Kimmi could say the same)

Kimmi had the worst life (his pupose was to be Oro's vessel or at least have saskue as his vessel... BOTH DID NOT HAPPEN! THus kimmi's purpose is incomplete

And Gaara had the worst childhood, although Kimi's (and Sasuke's) are probably the closest to his in how tragic it was.
childhood wise... i guess so.

But more good things did happen to Garra as a child than Kimi
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kabuto summoned him not Oro. And Kimmi was strong no doubt about it. Plus this was a different Kimmi cuz he had no illness
It doesnt matter that Kimimaro no longer had his illness when he was turned into an edo. He was still the same person with the same soul, abilities, etc.
lol why not
I just feel like if we are comparing Kimi's life with Gaara's here, Kimi only lived for 15 years. So I'm only going to compare Gaara's life up until the age of 15 with Kimi's. How can I compare any more than that if Kimi didnt live longer than 15 years?
-his uncle's love was not tragic
His mother's love is what counted. And he didnt know he had that until his recent fight with yondaime.
-Naruto knocking sense into him
Naruto may have helped a tiny ray of light reach his eyes, but overall, Naruto wasnt able to walk with him every step of the way on the "path to enlightenment". If thats what we shall call it. lol. Sounds like buddhism.
-Garra saving his comrades (lee)
Yeah Gaara saved Lee. Whats that got to do with anything? Its not Konoha's approval he needed to gain. It was Suna's. Besides, he only came on that mission to repay a debt to Naruto. He has no personal ties to Konoha. Or Lee, although im sure he felt guilty about almost killing him.
-Finding a meaning in life (to kill)
But that's not the purpose he truely wanted in life. And it only made people hate him more. He wanted love.
Were not tragic
Still was tragic. I guess you would have to understand Gaara as well as I do to see that...
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but he nor saskue was his vessel. Failure

Garra coming back to life was part of his life

The point is Kimmi never got the love he got him the people I mentioned

It's over
Garra had the worst childhood (especially on-cannon)
Kimmi had the worst LIFE (on and off cannon)
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Alright. I suppose I can let it rest now. lol.
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