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Old 01-23-2013, 03:40 PM   #341
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Guess what I drew in Pre-Calc!!!
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Am at the point where my mind is blank. But the nightmare is still going on. Always.
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Nightmares? I haven't had one in over probably 2 years. It was a shark... Eating me. v.;
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Well. Just metaphorically speaking. This week has been brutal on me, as if I'm in an inescapable nightmare.

In short. My week sucks.


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On average, the MotM council is a respectful organization that is meant to vote for people that deserve the votes. Prior to Wishful, the voting habits of the members were little more than silent button pushing, so I can't really argue for or against that acts of other members voting habits. However, I do know that a few of the people who voted were debating within themselves on the deservingness of one nominee vs. the other, and went with Luna. I, myself, gave a dual vote because I know that Luna, as minimalist as her posting habits portrayed, was an active part of the staff behind the scenes, whether that be by banning bots or whatever. And she was definitely more active within the Chats section (which, contest to belief, is a good reason to nominate someone due to their spurring activity).
I'm sure that's all true not disputing or doubting but it resulted in things looking bad

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Member perception is one thing that people must be aware of, but they must also be aware that members may perceive things differently than they may appear. And despite how people view government, the fact that they have voted in delegates means that they won't necessarily know what goes on behind the scenes, which is all the more reason to understand that perception isn't always right. At the same time though, I understand that overriding popular rumor is a very difficult task and often more energy than should be spent, considering that the odds of beating it are slim to none.
I'll put it to you this way member perception can matter more than reality..trying to convince the userbase in the usual "a dozen staffers enter a thread and there are silencing attempts" wont do any good but more damage

you're right of course but I'm just laying it out there

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Everything has flaws, but conceiving a plan to have the fewest number is what matters. We had hoped that giving a portion of voting to the public (as bias as that is in itself, considering that a lot of people in themselves vote for who they like most) would drop the rumors a bit, but people will always find a reason to complain.[
I think it was doing a lot of good until it came off like Meikeru overrode the will of the people- then it exploded



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I was more looking at the "golden age" as reaching a point in time when our staff was, at least more so than not, unbias. Trying to beat numbers of members on a forum that is hindered by copyright laws and the FCC rules. Although they're not breathing down our necks, a large corporation that brings anime/manga to the US is running this site, so you can't help but guess that lawsuits are a possibility.
if something like what the OBD'ers did regarding operation titanic happened here..I'm pretty sure heads would roll or this site would be shut down.

so I understand that wont happen but creating a true blue and fair staff requires at times..listening too and doing things that the majority of us wont like


Despite all the rules that this site holds, it may end up being a good thing, seeing as our users are on average more respectful and mature than those on other sites. No, I'm not saying that other sites down have their own model users, but with a large, no holds barred site, you have more odds of getting assholes than not, since they won't be held back by rules.


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I don't frequent the section often, to be perfectly honest, but I see it similar to this section in the sense that users are just users. There is and always will be the overlying possibility of flaming and user-to-user issues, but that's the same for all sections, which is more of a reason why the BGs aren't this "special case" I've heard so many times before.
the only difference between this place and outside is the fundamental belief all debaters hold which is "we shouldn't have to put up with idiocy or biased" How that belief is expressed can range from, the peaceful climate we have now to the 2010 climate

which was myself and some others deciding "we're going to conduct a purge on this section due to the staffs unwillingness to do it..and if the sesame street faction dislikes that..we'll use the salt from their tears as flavoring during our victory feast"

got results..but created the huge backlash all non BG'ers have towards us..err well contributed to it TBC did a lot of that on his own.

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I understand perfectly that other sites are homes to trolls and vicious users, but that is not this site. Yes, we will always and forever have incoming trolls and whatnot that should be dealt with swiftly and acceptably, but I'd hope for a more passive method than aggressive. The users themselves are, in essence, moderators as their actions are models for others users to take after. For the few that decided not to tone it down, there are warning and bannings to help police better.

I understand that moderators are people too, but I believe that all members of staff should be role models and be capable of controlling themselves to act more classy in situations that could normally get the better of others. I don't agree with a mod using his position as a reason to be an to others. I believe that people are originally good, so I try to get others to user that good against others to overall make the community a better place. You can passively deal with a troll just as well as you can aggressively, without pissing off the other party.
Of course we should hold ourselves to higher standards, but that cuts both ways. We should be able to properly lay the verbal smack down on an offending troll in a way that educates said troll and prevents us from having to nuke him..This is my goal any way

There are also people so unreasonable it would actually set a bad example to be considerate of their feelings.

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I know I use my opinion a lot within the staff area and just around the forum in general, but I use it when the situation calls for it. I act professional when I need to act professional, which is why I wasn't swearing at TRS the entire time I was trying to portray my point.

that was certainly saintly of you- especially with my playing devils advocate

I can't rep you for some reason..wish I could though
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I wasn't trying to accuse you of picking on Eagle out of amusement and I am in no way defending his rumored actions. Purely and wholeheartedly the only thing I was and will always be against is HOW the actions were taken. Yes, you can feel free to take whatever actions you see fit in private, whether that be in PM or off the forum as a whole, but I don't believe in acting so primal in plain sight of other users. It does not exude the ideal that a moderator should.[
You mean I should have courteous and sweet to someone who is a proven sexual pervert? someone who made threats against our staff? Against our users? Stalked minors and is a proven pedophile?

I mean I understand not flying off the rails on a guy like POP as dumb as he is, he's not a bad guy and we should hold back on him

what type of example does it set to these kids though to be coddling of someone like that? That's my problem with that stance.

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Daph pisses and moans all the time in the staff area about SNB or alleged SNB, but she never goes out of her way to troll whoever she believes is his new alt in public. That is probably the most respectful part about the whole SNB ordeal, that she keeps her opinions and dealings away from immature activities such as bullying another user into submission.
Because SnS a manic depressive liar he didn't dupe to log on and threaten to kill her- although if she knew what Ashen and I knew about him..maybe she would

Eagles and Scyther did..as well as to CoP and their hostility towards them is entirely understandable
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You could have easily taken the route of reporting the issue, PMing a higher up, or, I guess, even go as far as to thread ban him from anywhere he posts just to keep the possibility of him taking these actions to the feared level.
I did though the first thing I did was rage in a vm to Sajuuk or another Quasi..they knew

while they were busy doing their lives, before the ax came I decided to make it clear we weren't going to welcome him back..I don't regret it and I'd do it again

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Again, I'm not against keeping Eagle off the site and I'm not against what you did, I'm just against where and how these actions were taken. Those improper actions of a moderator are something I won't tolerate, as I see those actions as more proof to our staff having yet to reach a better position.
Oh I know you aren't don't worry I'm not roaring "rawrr pro pedo" like I do at the NF staff after all

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He's a beast, but do you think that people could possibly be putting him in stomp threads to further test his capabilities? This is the man that reacts to a man of light and splits islands in half, so why not keep pushing him a little further?
sometimes I think that's exactly what's happening that he is being tested, other times I think it's an error of not knowing what the other side is capable of.

case by case really don't think there are any WB haters on the site

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[COLOR="black"][I]Not in a million years.

As I said above, I don't condone any of Eagles rumored actions. I say rumored because I, personally, can't prove that any of these actions were taken. I just disagree with how the situations was handled and hope to prevent it further.

Plus, they ruined a perfectly good thread. I could have debated in it just fine. D:
We understand Dev, no one here is going to take issue with your complaints they are perfectly legitimate and come with the best of intentions

and I do regret the loss of that fine thread

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You guys are kids. Lol, how would you know anything about socialism or society. ALL this relates to pedo's. You, I, everyone can't speculate some to be a pedo simply because they're perverts, HELL, everyone's a pervert. Everyone wants to touch, you DON'T? Kaykeeptellingyourselfthat.
...first of all most of the people who caught him red handed are likely older than you are. Second of all what in the blue hell does socialism have to do with sexual depravity? Lastly you don't know what the hell happened so maybe you should back off


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Correct me if I'm wrong, you agree that everyone who has perverted thoughts is behind the trail of becoming one of those "freaks"? I'm not you, I don't unknowingly go into an arguement and state biased opinions about someone without having facts, example: You just said I "sound" dumb, well "sounding" dumb on the internet is a dumb insult, do you hear me speaking? No I'm writing, just as you write. I have nothing against you, there's no need to call people dumb, thanks.
..oh lord... reread the first part of your premise before acting like you have the moral and intellectual high ground

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He's not talking about perverted thoughts (everyone has those). He's talking about people with sick thoughts. Thoughts of making sexual advances to a child.
the best part is Fairie is one of those "kids" you just disparaged and even she gets it when it goes totally over your head obito

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Hmm, you're not smart are you? I said whatever you just wrote down, didn't matter, what are you trying to prove here guy? That you insulted me? Okay, what else? That you're not insulted and you were covering for Eagle, who I don't know, never even seen, spoken, or have any past history with, because I said "you guys are kids" and said something about everyone being perverts and wanting to touch, I don't know if you're playing stupid or just being sarcastic. Make up your mind, are you a pervert? Is Eagle a pervert? When I stated my opinion you defended him or you by calling me dumb and me being ill imformed. Lol.

...boy by the time I hit the reply button you better have dropped this or you wont be debating sage anymore you'll be dealing with me

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I'm not acting like a mod in this situation I'm just telling you something you have no knowledge on... So please don't try to backfire an insult to me. Thanks.
Listen Hinata if the mods of this section are busy or whatever as long as you aren't white knighting (Re what obito is doing) you're perfectly welcome to call someone out for talking out of their rear end and then asking for peace in the thread.

thank you for trying to accomplish that by the way and welcome to the BG's
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The first sentence was a joke. I know what he meant, it was intended for a friend who ISN'T online today, then it got carried away.. But, we're all passed that now.
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I'm sure that's all true not disputing or doubting but it resulted in things looking bad



I'll put it to you this way member perception can matter more than reality..trying to convince the userbase in the usual "a dozen staffers enter a thread and there are silencing attempts" wont do any good but more damage

you're right of course but I'm just laying it out there



I think it was doing a lot of good until it came off like Meikeru overrode the will of the people- then it exploded





if something like what the OBD'ers did regarding operation titanic happened here..I'm pretty sure heads would roll or this site would be shut down.

so I understand that wont happen but creating a true blue and fair staff requires at times..listening too and doing things that the majority of us wont like


Despite all the rules that this site holds, it may end up being a good thing, seeing as our users are on average more respectful and mature than those on other sites. No, I'm not saying that other sites down have their own model users, but with a large, no holds barred site, you have more odds of getting assholes than not, since they won't be held back by rules.




the only difference between this place and outside is the fundamental belief all debaters hold which is "we shouldn't have to put up with idiocy or biased" How that belief is expressed can range from, the peaceful climate we have now to the 2010 climate

which was myself and some others deciding "we're going to conduct a purge on this section due to the staffs unwillingness to do it..and if the sesame street faction dislikes that..we'll use the salt from their tears as flavoring during our victory feast"

got results..but created the huge backlash all non BG'ers have towards us..err well contributed to it TBC did a lot of that on his own.



Of course we should hold ourselves to higher standards, but that cuts both ways. We should be able to properly lay the verbal smack down on an offending troll in a way that educates said troll and prevents us from having to nuke him..This is my goal any way

There are also people so unreasonable it would actually set a bad example to be considerate of their feelings.



that was certainly saintly of you- especially with my playing devils advocate

I can't rep you for some reason..wish I could though


You mean I should have courteous and sweet to someone who is a proven sexual pervert? someone who made threats against our staff? Against our users? Stalked minors and is a proven pedophile?

I mean I understand not flying off the rails on a guy like POP as dumb as he is, he's not a bad guy and we should hold back on him

what type of example does it set to these kids though to be coddling of someone like that? That's my problem with that stance.



Because SnS a manic depressive liar he didn't dupe to log on and threaten to kill her- although if she knew what Ashen and I knew about him..maybe she would

Eagles and Scyther did..as well as to CoP and their hostility towards them is entirely understandable


I did though the first thing I did was rage in a vm to Sajuuk or another Quasi..they knew

while they were busy doing their lives, before the ax came I decided to make it clear we weren't going to welcome him back..I don't regret it and I'd do it again



Oh I know you aren't don't worry I'm not roaring "rawrr pro pedo" like I do at the NF staff after all



sometimes I think that's exactly what's happening that he is being tested, other times I think it's an error of not knowing what the other side is capable of.

case by case really don't think there are any WB haters on the site



We understand Dev, no one here is going to take issue with your complaints they are perfectly legitimate and come with the best of intentions

and I do regret the loss of that fine thread



...first of all most of the people who caught him red handed are likely older than you are. Second of all what in the blue hell does socialism have to do with sexual depravity? Lastly you don't know what the hell happened so maybe you should back off




..oh lord... reread the first part of your premise before acting like you have the moral and intellectual high ground



the best part is Fairie is one of those "kids" you just disparaged and even she gets it when it goes totally over your head obito




...boy by the time I hit the reply button you better have dropped this or you wont be debating sage anymore you'll be dealing with me



Listen Hinata if the mods of this section are busy or whatever as long as you aren't white knighting (Re what obito is doing) you're perfectly welcome to call someone out for talking out of their rear end and then asking for peace in the thread.

thank you for trying to accomplish that by the way and welcome to the BG's
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Oh god it sounds like someone was defending eagles
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