Spoiler Madara's eye's Is Still Incomplete!

[and17y1]

I dont agree with you for one main reason - he can use susanoo with rinnegan.

You dont understand the sharingan and the rinnegan. They are like man and woman. Rinnegan is said to be the perfect doujutsu but is it true ? All think that way because it has the power to repel, attract, bring back to life, summon the empty shell of the juubi, kill people removing their souls.

But on the other hand the fully developed Sharingan can be used to put the enemy in the greatest genjutsu ever, cast an unextinguishing flame, protect yourself with chakra guard by all means, controlling people.

Juubi's eye is the most powerful doujutsu that has ever existed. IT is a combination of the Sharingan and the Rinnegan.

[slyfoxx]

@ Kalm i been reading responses and thinking and i think i know why. Madaras is incomplete because he didnt Naturally gain it. He stole some one else genes and experimented with hisself. The next sage will be Naruhina's baby and Sasurin or sasukara's baby's offsping some one who would be born with senju/uchiha dna

[kalmeast]

Originally Posted by and17y1

I dont agree with you for one main reason - he can use susanoo with rinnegan.

You dont understand the sharingan and the rinnegan. They are like man and woman. Rinnegan is said to be the perfect doujutsu but is it true ? All think that way because it has the power to repel, attract, bring back to life, summon the empty shell of the juubi, kill people removing their souls.

But on the other hand the fully developed Sharingan can be used to put the enemy in the greatest genjutsu ever, cast an unextinguishing flame, protect yourself with chakra guard by all means, controlling people.

Juubi's eye is the most powerful doujutsu that has ever existed. IT is a combination of the Sharingan and the Rinnegan.

why can't Madara use the EMS-genjutsu with his rinnegan if he can with susanoo....this is the main unsettling argument? either it's kishi's errors or something i haven't caught yet...too important and obvious to be an error...

unless susanoo doesn't come directly from the RInnegan eyes otherwise, shouldn't Nagato have been able to use it too... This goes for those who say Rinnegan can use every dojutsu of the MS/(EMS)...

AHHH Kishi? what's this?

I'd ask this in an interview!...

[Maruko]

If you could chose IRL which one would you ask for?
I couldn't decide. Sharingan looks bad-ass and has bad-ass moves, but Rinnegan can attract and repulse! D:

[Rikudo Sage]

Originally Posted by kalmeast

why can't Madara use the EMS-genjutsu with his rinnegan if he can with susanoo....this is the main unsettling argument? either it's kishi's errors or something i haven't caught yet...too important and obvious to be an error...

unless susanoo doesn't come directly from the RInnegan eyes otherwise, shouldn't Nagato have been able to use it too... This goes for those who say Rinnegan can use every dojutsu of the MS/(EMS)...

AHHH Kishi? what's this?

I'd ask this in an interview!...

Well, the fact that Madara had to switch to EMS when he genjutsu'd the 4th Raikage clearly indicates that he cant use genjutsu with rinnegan. So now the question is why he was able to do it with susanoo? The only answer I can think of is susanoo will remain active as long as the user's chakra is enough to sustain it. He'd only need to switch back to EMS for summoning susanoo but once it has been activated he'd be able to switch to rinnegan but the susanoo will remain as long as he continously fed susanoo with his chakra. Just a thought but pure speculations though.

[kalmeast]

Originally Posted by Rikudo Sage

Well, the fact that Madara had to switch to EMS when he genjutsu'd the 4th Raikage clearly indicates that he cant use genjutsu with rinnegan. So now the question is why he was able to do it with susanoo? The only answer I can think of is susanoo will remain active as long as the user's chakra is enough to sustain it. He'd only need to switch back to EMS for summoning susanoo but once it has been activated he'd be able to switch to rinnegan but the susanoo will remain as long as he continously fed susanoo with his chakra. Just a thought but pure speculations though.

I can't believe you...this was my exact thought initially but i just didn't have the ballz to say it... cause i had no evidence... but it came out more credible hearing it from you... lol

Anyways...this is the only thing that makes sense to me.... I think we are getting somewhere...


@Maruko...... IRL...need enlightenment! lol

[Rikudo Sage]

Originally Posted by kalmeast

I can't believe you...this was my exact thought initially but i just didn't have the ballz to say it... cause i had no evidence... but it came out more credible hearing it from you... lol

Anyways...this is the only thing that makes sense to me.... I think we are getting somewhere...


@Maruko...... IRL...need enlightenment! lol

I have referrence though. In chap 393, it was shown there that Itachi was able to sustain susanoo despite the fact that his MS was already turned off.

[kalmeast]

^ jesus christ....at first I thought that was blood that had covered his pupil so we couldn't see the MS... Man... u're brilliant if that is the case...

EDIT: I was looking at your chp reference and even the anime and it is true...Itachi's eyes (both of them) were deactivated when he re-ignited susanoo... so I think you deserve the price of making this theory closest to complete... u're the man! lol..

[Kyūbi no Yōko]

It's a great theory, but these Dojutsu are getting mixed, why not just normal Rinnegan with special powers, instead of having EMS imprinted on it.

[Maruko]

Originally Posted by kalmeast

I can't believe you...this was my exact thought initially but i just didn't have the ballz to say it... cause i had no evidence... but it came out more credible hearing it from you... lol

Anyways...this is the only thing that makes sense to me.... I think we are getting somewhere...


@Maruko...... IRL...need enlightenment! lol

IRL = In real life xD

[Obito]

What's incomplete about his eyes? He HAS Rinnegan, the final evolution in the Uchiha Clan.

[kalmeast]

Originally Posted by Kyūbi no Yōko

It's a great theory, but these Dojutsu are getting mixed, why not just normal Rinnegan with special powers, instead of having EMS imprinted on it.

True...just some special powered Rinnegan...but what about his genjutsu... do you ever want to see a rinnegan whipping out genjutsu on its own... that's why the sharingan would be needed... But there are two options... either the EMS imprinted on the Rinne (which some say is too complex) or the Rinnegan simply converts the MS into 6 Tomoe (since sasuke has itachi's 3 tomoe + his own 3 tomoe...(so we have 6 tomoe on his eye)... This will strengthen the Naruto/Sasuke rivalry...

One has 6 tomoe in his eyes, the other has 6 magatama on his neck... Non is completely the Rikoudo yet, but half of him...

Originally Posted by Obito

What's incomplete about his eyes? He HAS Rinnegan, the final evolution in the Uchiha Clan.

lol...did u skim through the OP?

Originally Posted by Maruko

IRL = In real life xD

lol...so simple...i guess that must mean I'm dumb IRL

[Sir Michael]

Originally Posted by kalmeast

True...just some special powered Rinnegan...but what about his genjutsu... do you ever want to see a rinnegan whipping out genjutsu on its own... that's why the sharingan would be needed... But there are two options... either the EMS imprinted on the Rinne (which some say is too complex) or the Rinnegan simply converts the MS into 6 Tomoe (since sasuke has itachi's 3 tomoe + his own 3 tomoe...(so we have 6 tomoe on his eye)... This will strengthen the Naruto/Sasuke rivalry...

One has 6 tomoe in his eyes, the other has 6 magatama on his neck... Non is completely the Rikoudo yet, but half of him...



lol...did u skim through the OP?



lol...so simple...i guess that must mean I'm dumb IRL

It's also possible the "Complete Rinnegan" as you say. Could look something like Magatama's. To resemble the Sage.

Possible theres lost history with the Rinnegan.

The Byakugan might be needed.

Byakugan enhances vision.

Which Rinnegan can also, when linked.

[kalmeast]

^ All three dojutsu in one...
that'd be nasty and scary... but would oro really enhance sasuke that much...my question is; why'd he do that when he plans on taking his body? lol... Unless sasuke would force him to...

[Sir Michael]

Originally Posted by kalmeast

^ All three dojutsu in one...
that'd be nasty and scary... but would oro really enhance sasuke that much...my question is; why'd he do that when he plans on taking his body? lol... Unless sasuke would force him to...

I'm starting to think Pedosnake wants Saucey for more than the Sharingan, he will end up want the best power there is.

Complete Rinnegan is that power!

[kalmeast]

^ I'd hate for sasuke to be induced by some Hashirama cells tho''' I hope that scroll is about ANOTHER MEANS besides hashi's dna to get the rinnegan...that'd be cool... Cuz seeing sasuke pull out some mokouton would annoy me to near death...just don't fit him...

yep...Oro wants his body even more...

[Maruko]

Originally Posted by Sir Michael

I'm starting to think Pedosnake wants Saucey for more than the Sharingan, he will end up want the best power there is.

Complete Rinnegan is that power!

That's why he wanted Sharingan to begin with.