NS/NH/SS discussion thread

[placeinthesun16]

Ive just read like 20 post and it seem that all of us are just trying to bash on each other about our proof, that we offer about our pairing preferences instead of trying to understand each others reasonings of why.
well anyways here goes some of my opinions. wrong or right, cannot be determine just and opinion anyways.

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my views of the 4 major pairings and characters (this is just my point of view, we all view differently so you might disagree)

1. naruto, wants to bring sasuke back, to the village because he wants to save him from his darkness his lonelines and his feeling of not having any family left. his intentions are not romantic. naruto towards hinata, his feelings for her i believe are questionable from either going as far as romance or just frienship. since it unclear. his feelings for sakura are love, but are also questionable in my opinion. when it comes to narutos promise to sakura he stated when sakura try to relieve him from it he sed that he didnt want to bring sasuke back cuz of her but cuz he wanted to save a freind.

2. sasuke, sasuke doesnt seem to care much about his old friends. his just looking for revenge on konoha for the pain he believes they cause itachi and for the redemption of his clan or restoration. he wants payback. his feelings for naruto and sakura are unclear, other then he doest mind killing them.

3. sakura, sakura wants sasuke back because she loves him and wants to be with him, sakura wants to get stronger so she can help naruto get sasuke back, shes not doing it to impress naruto or anything like that. sakura doesnt want to hurt sasuke she wants to save him. because she wants a love relationship with him. somewhat of forcefully. hehe. sakuras feeling for naruto can be express of as comrades and somewhat respect for his accomplishments, love feelings for him are unclear. while for sasuke her feelings for him are love. and aswell questionable.

4. hinata. hinata clearly loves naruto but yet shes not trying to force her love on naruto. many say she prefers naruto over her clan, but thats not true cuz if she did she would of disobey her clan rules and would of try to befriend naruto. hinata wants to be strong so she can impress naruto and respectibly she'l be acknowledge by naruto. she puts her love aside for naruto since there in a war. that means shes patient. and not selfish about her love, shes trying to protect all her comrades in war. not just trying to impress naruto or trying to get notice by him. shes willing to wait for when the time is right. hinatas love for naruto is 100% clear. she is not putting any of his comrades family or friends aside for naruto, as she shows concern for everyones safety. sure she wants to be notice by naruto, but she wants him to love her. not just to be acknowledge. hinata does want to be acknowledge by her family and friends, she wants to prove that she is not a loser like everyone use to think of her. i dont think that hinatas intentions or goals are selfish. as most think. to put it better.
hinata from narutos side what she wants is to be loved by him.
hinata from her family friends and comrades she wants to be acknowledge as a great ninja.

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the pairing war in naruto is like the first world war, why? becuase it reminds me of the fighting done in the trenches. do to the fact that as soon as one side gain advantage they were quickly over taking by the other side back and forth they went. something like that.

i believe there mus be a pairing in naruto because its nice to see stuff like that, also sasuke might see his wrong doing after he sees madara and obito bringing war to the world and he will try to help(his no match thought for obito or madara) plus am guessing his trying to revive his parents they might change his mine who knows?. any ways i want naruhina to happen. yet i dont bash on narusaku. so dont bash on fellow naruhinas either.

what i think naruto has in his mine after hinatas and sakuras confession. must be that even thought his like sakura all this time and he has clearly told and shown his love for her but yet sakura never accepts him, then sakura goes and confess a clearly fake confesion, then naruto must be thinking that sakura feels pity for him and has actually never loved him the same way as he has and shes just taking pity on him. so i think he lost all respects for her and his feelins are slowly fading from what he used to feel for her. something like that.

what naruto might be thinking about hinata? might be that even thought he never thought she could like him. he feel that hinatas confession is true and from the heart. and he might be thinking that she has proven his love for him during all the time theyve had togethere even if its very little time. naruto has always like hinata as a friend or even more more then that. since the small chapters his had with her he always shows deep concern for her safety. as oppose to other girl characters or boys. haaa. anways what am getting at is that naruto might now be concediring to give hinata a chance at love. not out of pity but out of emotions that he feels that she deserves to go out with him. anyways naruto will most likely show is real emotiong about hinata at the end or near the end of the series.
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thats just my opinion, i dont want to qoute anything concerning the manga since it has just proven to be useless and it always contradicts, when you think about it, it all comes down to your own believes of what you interpret to be right. since its clear to me that we aint making any progress.
(qoute by itachi) "People live their lives bound by what they accept as correct and true. That's how they define "reality". But what does it mean to be "correct" or "true"? Merely vague concepts… their "reality" may all be a mirage. Can we consider them to simply be living in their own world, shaped by their beliefs?"


? what do you think naruto feel'sl about sakura and hinata about there confessions? whats on his mine?
naruxhina(the evidence is there, it's just that you fail to see the truth)

[Souret]

NARUHINA is awesome
Anyway I really want Naruto and Hinata to be together...I kinda want Sasuke to die so his body goes back to village and sakura to find a random green heard ninja from a different village.

[Vivi]

I like that Kishi said Naruto and Kiba are closest of being like him and that of all female chars he'd date Hinata.

Take that as you like.

[placeinthesun16]

in my mine i can't see naruto or hinata with anyone else but each other. and kiba aint going to date hinata he knows shes loves naruto so yeah. idk how hinata and naruto gonna get togethere, but its gonna happen.

[koshej]

Vivi
Erm, Kiba was trolling NaruHina when Naruto came to save her some chapters ago.
So I doubt (knowing Kiba being brash and straightforward) that he wants Hinata for himself.
He had all his chances for 3+ years, so he knows by now that he won't get her.
And he's smarter than Naruto was with Sakura (IF Naruto even was that way) - or at least much older now.
Also, KibaHina romance is pretty random, despite KibaHina friendship being strong - or BECAUSE of it.
Exactly the same reason for NaruSaku.

[placeinthesun16]

yeah exactly. naruxhina happening was always obvious. its just that narusaku are to blind. narusaku even having a fanbase is beyong me of why?

[NarutoxSakura4ever]

Here are my thoughts on NaruSaku, SasuSaku, and NaruHina...


SasuSaku: I supported them when I was younger… and while Sasuke was in the village. I no longer support them because I see that there is no love between her or Sasuke. Sasuke, has never loved Sakura and even if he does turn good, he won’t instantly fall for her either. And even if he does, which I doubt, Sakura is probably not just going to get up and forgive him first thing. I mean he tried to kill her, he tried to kill her comrades, destory her village, AND abandoned her while she begged him not too. If Sakura does forgive Sasuke for all that he did and still wants to date him, I will be literally shocked. So anyway, I don't believe SasuSaku is going to happen. No matter how good they look together it's just not going to happen, no matter how many people wish it. Karin even has a better chance with getting with Sasuke than Sakura does. There is little to no love in this shipping so, I'm not even going to be concerned about it.

NaruHina: NaruHina, NaruHina, NaruHina. It’s a one sided couple which, Hinata is the only one that feels anything. Naruto is not in love with her. And quite frankly, I don’t think Hinata is in love with Naruto either, I really think it is just a really strong, admiration. (THIS IS MY OPINION. AND IT'S NOT JUST BECAUSE I SUPPORT NARUSAKU) Why do I think it's admiration? Well, because everything, EVERYTHING has to do with Naruto for Hinata. When she fights, in her thoughts, her back story, he is the main person in the people around her, heck he’s the main thing that made her develop any. I mean really, think about, how can you love someone you barely know? It never turns out good in the end. And since Naruto and Hinata know little about each other, how could there be any chemistry in the relationship?
The pep talk Hinata gives Naruto in chapter 615, couldn’t have cast a magic love spell on Naruto to make him instantly love her. Their hand holding, I believe (not just because I’m a NaruSaku) was just a chakra transfer. So yeah, I don’t think that it was any romantic thing. PLUS, A LOT (not all) of NaruHina fans are claiming Naruto is FINALLY realizing how he feels about Hinata. AND ALSO if Hinata giving him a pep talk and touching his cheek impacted Naruto MORE than Hinata's confession, uh there is something wrong here. And look at what he's in the middle of... WAR. Why would Naruto be thinking how he feels about ANYBODY at moment?
There are so many things about NaruHina that just… don’t make sense to me. Like one of the reasons Naruto should be with Hinata is because Hinata's chest is bigger than Sakura’s chest… UM, what the heck does that have to do with anything? If Naruto falls for Hinata just because she’s got a big chest, then I would lose all respect for him. NaruHina is a couple that is based mainly upon Hinata's feelings alone.
(Oh, and just because Sakura wasn't shown in chapter 616, doesn't mean that NaruHina is canon either. A lot of NaruHina fans are saying that... for some reason.)

NaruSaku: Ah, my OTP and the only couple that makes pretty much any sense. I believe NaruSaku WILL happen because of the relationship development they have. Naruto and Sakura really care about each other and Naruto's love just shines through his words and actions. Also I believe Sakura has developed feelings for Naruto. I'm not just now thinking this. I thought like this since the Pein Arc.
I’m tired of all the assumption that Sakura still loves Sasuke. She may still love Sasuke, but maybe not in a romantic sort of way. I believe Sakura, has gotten over her romantic love for Sasuke and began to develop feelings for Naruto in the Pein Arc. Look back in the Pein Arc and how she looked kind of sad when she was healing Hinata and thinking about her (Hinata’s) confession. Wouldn't have been happy for her friend?
And if also may point out, Sakura’s expression in the 615 chapter. She’s looking a bit surprised or something…. It’s not because of Neji’s death, because they showed a panel with her and Kakashi looking shocked before that. Kishimoto wouldn’t have put Sakura looking like that for nothing. And notice it’s just Sakura. It’s not Sakura, Sai, and Kakashi, it’s not Sakura and Kakashi, and it’s not Sakura and Sai. It’s just Sakura. He drew her there looking like that for something okay? You can deny it if you like, but hey that’s on you. It may have been because she was surprised Hinata slapped Naruto, or it may have been because… Hinata, the one who is in love with Naruto is… touching Naruto. But these are just my thoughts. We won’t know, why she was looking like that and we may not know until of course until she is shown.

So these are my thoughts on all three pairings. I support NaruSaku all the way.

[placeinthesun16]

mm very good job on your interpretetion. i agree nothing is cannon. but in real life most marriages start with people barely knowing each other like naruto not knowing hinata that much it start from nothing and then developes.
naruto and sakura being teamates for years but sakura has barely started to acknowledge naruto as just not some childish joker comedian ect. yes i also agree that sakura has looked like she has shown some love for naruto or intentions.
i hate people argueingn hinatas physique as why they should be togethere. the reason i believe they should be togethere because hinatas personality. and her pure love for him. all pairing are one sided anyways. but its up to ksihi thought ill be happy with his choice. thought i must say i enjoy this arguments.

[NarutoxSakura4ever]

Originally Posted by placeinthesun16

mm very good job on your interpretetion. i agree nothing is cannon. but in real life most marriages start with people barely knowing each other like naruto not knowing hinata that much it start from nothing and then developes.
naruto and sakura being teamates for years but sakura has barely started to acknowledge naruto as just not some childish joker comedian ect. yes i also agree that sakura has looked like she has shown some love for naruto or intentions.
i hate people argueingn hinatas physique as why they should be togethere. the reason i believe they should be togethere because hinatas personality. and her pure love for him. all pairing are one sided anyways. but its up to ksihi thought ill be happy with his choice. thought i must say i enjoy this arguments.

Well what can I say, I'm a writer and I think a lot. Wow, first person to agree with me about nothing, not even NaruHina beginning canon. But that's real life, you know? That's possible it may happen, but, I find it's too close to the end for Naruto and Hinata to develop in their relationship.

That's right and that's why I and I'm sure other NaruSaku fans are building off that. For us, that's a foundation of a relationship that won't fail. Oh, another agreement.

It is a ridiculous reason. But still, this couple is based upon Hinata's feelings alone, not Naruto's. Naruto's feelings are pretty much disregarded. All NaruHina's seem to want to see NaruHina happen, because of how Hinata is and her love. I know that, but this couple seems to be a bit selfish in a way. Kishimoto will make choice the end though.

[PrinceofPeace]

Keep up the GREAT WORK placeinthesun

You debate her till the end and contact me if you need back up

[placeinthesun16]

narusaku shippers have base all there arguments on naruto and sakura being teamates. and nothing else. all i see from sakuras side towards naruto is more like a team partnership. not love. naruto is the only one that has display any romatic feelings towards sakura. while sakura is barely begining to know narutos real self. sakura always rejects naruto's romantic feelings towards her. so i think its clear sakura does not love naruto romantically, if any its just frienship.

hinata also is the only one to show the most romantic feelings for naruto.
naruto thought he has not shown the same feelins, he does like her personality. and thats enought to start a relationship. since hinata's confesion naruto has shown more concern for hinatas safety. and has shown in my opinion more interest in her emotions then what he use to do. since now naruto is aware of hinatas love for him.

am also sure that naruto's and hinatas relationship will grow alot more during the war. since they have being fighting togethere from the start of the ally shinobi reunion. this is there time to shine as a couple.

well i feel this are some small clues from kishi about naruhina happening.

1)"i dont want to loose him. he feels so close to me. i've always felt this way." chpt 437:confesion on title page by hinata.

2) naruto cheering hinata up "its all in your eyes. dont get so down on yoursel! youre strong" naruto and hinata get a eye to eye connection, thats big.

3) "dont't act tough just because hinata is here naruto!" kiba chapter 611 pg 14.

this all written by kishi so it has to be important to the story. theres alot more of this small hints but i would have to re-read the manga to get everything.

am getting the feeling that naruto and hinata's love is brewing throught this war.

[NarutoxSakura4ever]

Originally Posted by placeinthesun16

narusaku shippers have base all there arguments on naruto and sakura being teamates. and nothing else. all i see from sakuras side towards naruto is more like a team partnership. not love. naruto is the only one that has display any romatic feelings towards sakura. while sakura is barely begining to know narutos real self. sakura always rejects naruto's romantic feelings towards her. so i think its clear sakura does not love naruto romantically, if any its just frienship.

That's how it seems now. They're just teammates, friends. We do base this on their friendship because their friendship is so strong, this is good foundation for a great relationship. That's true, he's the only one that does. She barely? She began to realize the real Naruto in beginning of Shippuden, you can't say that she barely knows the real Naruto. She does/did, but that was in part one and part of part two. No, I disagree, you don't know what she's feeling towards Naruto at moment, she's always felts something, but she's not all entirely sure what it is. I'm basing NaruSaku on both Naruto's feelings AND the feelings Sakura is beginning to develop.


hinata also is the only one to show the most romantic feelings for naruto.
naruto thought he has not shown the same feelins, he does like her personality. and thats enought to start a relationship. since hinata's confesion naruto has shown more concern for hinatas safety. and has shown in my opinion more interest in her emotions then what he use to do. since now naruto is aware of hinatas love for him.

Hinata is the only one who shows romantic feelings for Naruto, that's true. And that's what most NaruHina's fans base it upon ONLY HINATA'S FEELINGS. Liking someones personality is different than like the whole person. He has, and he's like that with everyone though. He cares for all his comrades and he said he wouldn't let his friends die. Here's the thing, about that, if Hinata has impacted Naruto his feelings JUST NOW by pep talk... Then that's pretty bad. Since a girl's confession should really make a bigger impact than, a pep talk.

am also sure that naruto's and hinatas relationship will grow alot more during the war. since they have being fighting togethere from the start of the ally shinobi reunion. this is there time to shine as a couple.

well i feel this are some small clues from kishi about naruhina happening.

1)"i dont want to loose him. he feels so close to me. i've always felt this way." chpt 437:confesion on title page by hinata.

2) naruto cheering hinata up "its all in your eyes. dont get so down on yoursel! youre strong" naruto and hinata get a eye to eye connection, thats big.

3) "dont't act tough just because hinata is here naruto!" kiba chapter 611 pg 14.

That maybe so, but NaruHina has hardly time, so I'm assuming Kishimoto is making that time now. Since the series is almost over. I think since NaruSaku had so much time and so many moments, he just wants to give NaruHina fans a little NaruHina, before he makes an official couple.

~ Well of course she doesn't want to lose him, she loves him.

~ He was acknowledging her strength, and just because he made eye contact with her doesn't me anything. It wasn't like he was blushing or anything...

~Well, Kiba knows how Hinata feels for Naruto and I believe he's teasing Hinata a bit.

this all written by kishi so it has to be important to the story. theres alot more of this small hints but i would have to re-read the manga to get everything.

I know that, I'm not going to deny that he didn't write that.

am getting the feeling that naruto and hinata's love is brewing throught this war.

I don't believe Naruto is thinking romantically about anyone at the moment. He's thinking about the war and protecting his friends and his village and the world.

[PrinceofPeace]

dont give in Placeinthesun I am here if you need me

[placeinthesun16]

well those were some nice counters. i must admit.

hinata is also not being romantic about her feelings towards naruto in this war. as she was willing to lay down her life for naruto. since he is the key for shikakos plan to work. she was thinking about protecting the plan and not her love for naruto when she prepare to lay down her life. but then neji saved hinata. hinata has being focusing alot on putting all she can do to ensure the succes of the ally shinobi forces.

hinata on her speech to naruto she remine her about his promises. and reassure him about his ninja way. she never brought up her confession either.
what am trying to say is that hinata is willing to loose naruto in order to protect the ally forces.
unlike sakura who put her feelings for sasuke first. instead of thinking of the benefits sasuke's dead would bring to the ally forces.
this just shows that sakura is a weaker minded individual then hinata.

my point is that hinata is willing to put her feelins for naruto behind. from what really matters.
unlike sakura.

honestly is hard to bring more evidence, since all couteracts each other out.

after hinatas pep talk naruto became a stronger minded individual unlike what he used to be with sakura. who always kept him weak minded do to the fact that she never mentally supported naruto as much as hinata has.



so hinata is not being selfish

when someone loves someone he/she will be willing to give his life for the person she/he loves if it means protecting the greater good. something that sakura clearly cant do.

[Hinata Hyuga's BestFriend]

Originally Posted by NarutoxSakura4ever

Well what can I say, I'm a writer and I think a lot. Wow, first person to agree with me about nothing, not even NaruHina beginning canon. Kishimoto will make choice the end though.

Actually, for the record, as an avid NaruHina fan myself, I agree with you, too, that's it's probably too early to say a pairing is GOING to happen. There can be development, but nothing will become canon until it becomes official in the manga. Kishi has trolled the readers with pairings plenty of times before, so I'm sure he will again.

Actually, another thing I agree with you on: I don't like SasuSaku, either. Unlike you, I do think Sakura still loves Sasuke, but I don't think she should. It's a pretty abusive relationship, and Sakura's reasons for loving Sasuke are unfounded. It irritates me when people assume that anyone who likes NaruHina must also like SasuSaku; I love NaruHina so much, but I don't like SasuSaku AT ALL.

[weshir]

NARUHINA. ^_^
REASONS WHY I SUPPORT THE COUPLE:
1. THEY BELONG TOGETHER
2. THEY'RE SO CUTE TOGETHER TOO

I PROVE MY POINT XD

^btw there is more reasons why I support them but I seriously do not feel like typing down 3pages about it XD

[ItachiKisame]

Indeed they do belong together especially after the latest chapters.

[placeinthesun16]

(to:narutoxsakura4ever) i dont think kishi, is changing his story just cause of the fans
kishi story will end how he always intended it to be.

what we are doing in this forum is just expeculating of which pairing will happen, if any even happens. that sed we aint, nor anyone is going to change kishis maine story line.

so dont assume kishi is doing a deed for the naruhina fans when he makes naruhina or narusaku or sasusaku or any possible pairings. moments. thats just how he wants it to be. its not fan service.

[koshej]

^^^Yep. I'm like 9000% sure about it.
Maybe anime (especially omakes, sure) CAN be blamed for fan service, but NOT the original manga.

[PrinceofPeace]

sooooo yeah NARHINA