Acnologia Vs Juubi

[BMC1994]

Both hyped to be solo country busters and on the top tiers in their respective verses (save for zeref i think)

Monster vs Monster

All feats 400m distance

Just juubi so no obito/madara/any feats that come from them.

[321zigzag3]

Acnologia's only showing was destroying a small island (well it didn't technically).
It also overpowered Makarov's Titan form.

Thats all we know. Its feats are rather very mediocre compared to Juubi.

[Ultimate combatant]

Honestly, Acnologia is very powerful for its own verse but I don't find it that impressive compared to Narutoverse.

Perhaps when it shows the real power it has.

It did a lot considering it didn't even try but it hardly compares to other Bijuu let alone Juubi.

In other words, Juubi most likely stomps!!!

[BMC1994]

Originally Posted by 321zigzag3

Acnologia's only showing was destroying a small island (well it didn't technically).
It also overpowered Makarov's Titan form.

Thats all we know. Its feats are rather very mediocre compared to Juubi.

We both know that island would have been vaporized if fairy sphere wasnt there.

And what exactly are juubis feats except bijuu beams/bombs there have about an equal amount of showings.

Juubi doesnt have that much feats either which is why i made this match up.

Originally Posted by Ultimate combatant

Honestly, Acnologia is very powerful for its own verse but I don't find it that impressive compared to Narutoverse.

Perhaps when it shows the real power it has.

It did a lot considering it didn't even try but it hardly compares to other Bijuu let alone Juubi.

In other words, Juubi most likely stomps!!!

It basically nuked an island. Casually. Thats easily in juubis playground. And it basicly tanked everything which fairy tail had to offer. And wasnt scratched.

Juubis feats also consist of tanking everything the protagonist(fodder) got and nuking.

[Shisko Shi]

Dude the Juubi took a Biju bomb to the mouth and is fine, but I love Fairy Tail. But Juubi has this. In it's new form it I am sure can move faster, being skinny and all. It's tails can cause massive amounts of damge. It can shoot a but load of those spikes and it has a hard skin.

[321zigzag3]

Originally Posted by BMC1994

We both know that island would have been vaporized if fairy sphere wasnt there.

Tha island was pretty small. I don't see why Kyuubi himself can't nuke it either.

There is a thing, relative in size.

And what exactly are juubis feats except bijuu beams/bombs there have about an equal amount of showings.

Tanking multiple bijuu bombs. Flicking a bijuu bomb back.
It overwhelmed Bijuu Mode Naruto in speed who was the fastest character in movement.
This was in first form. Its destructive output is massively multi-mountain.

Juubi doesnt have that much feats either which is why i made this match up.

Quite more than Acnologia. We don't know its durability for example.

While Juubi is comfortably massively multi-mountain in durability.

The only thing Acnologia has above Juubi is flight. Its not winning the ground battle against it.

[Noctis Arashi]

But also note that the power displayed by Acnologia was it playing around, and stated to be significantly less than that of when Gildarts encountered it.

[Uchiha Sora]

The Bijuu bomb tanking feats kind of confuse me. The bombs didn't actually explode when he flicked it.

But then again he did tank Bee's Bijuu bomb to the face.

[Devils Lawyer]

Doesn't matter that energy vaporizes mountains upon contact. You cant touch the energy. Naruto was always constantly healing from using the energy. It doesn't have to blow up.

[JLI2infinity]

BMC1994 Why would you do this? Acnologia is featless. All we've seen him do is tank the pre-TS Fairy Tail members strongest attacks without even trying (minus Gildarts and Makarov who weren't attacking).

Gildarts basically stated that Acnologia was just toying with them. Zeref seems to think that Acnologia is some god type monster that will bring the apocalypse.

What I really think it's going to come down to is how strong the legend tier members of the Fairy Tail universe end up being. If people like Gildarts or Makarov at full strength end up being mountain busters (like Bee and Naruto) then chances are Acnologia will be able to keep up. At the moment the higher tier members of Fairy Tail are mostly able to take out very large areas of terrain (Natsu's Dazzling Blaze, Mirajane's blast, Gajeel's Iron God Sword) or at most are city busters (Erza's Fairy Armor in Edolas).

[Shisko Shi]

honestly CURRENT Juubi is fast enough to blitz acnologia possibly, its tailed beast...beam was suppressed apparently so I KNOW for sure it has alot more firepower than that, it also tanked at multi mountain err small island(possibly) attack so a roar ain’t gonna shake the juubi imo anlso let’s not forget that by a casual swing of it’s tail it can do this

[BMC1994]

It hasnt even moved , you could say reaction speed at most from zigzags example.

And being skinny doesnt mean you are fast.

A swing by its tail? Assuming the acnologia wouldnt be flying, what has the tail destroyed which makes you think he can scratch acnologia.

Originally Posted by 321zigzag3

Tha island was pretty small. I don't see why Kyuubi himself can't nuke it either.

There is a thing, relative in size.



Tanking multiple bijuu bombs. Flicking a bijuu bomb back.
It overwhelmed Bijuu Mode Naruto in speed who was the fastest character in movement.
This was in first form. Its destructive output is massively multi-mountain.



Quite more than Acnologia. We don't know its durability for example.

While Juubi is comfortably massively multi-mountain in durability.

The only thing Acnologia has above Juubi is flight. Its not winning the ground battle against it.

The Mountains are pretty small. -.- Island = Island. And in my book atleast most islands house mountains or even multiple. Also you have to consider the large tree on top of it (and the 'pseudo' island above) which was nearly as large as the actual island.

Bijuu bombs have nuked mountains/Larger mountains at most. (not counting juubi it self)

Bijuu modes speed is inconsistent.

It should be atleast be able to tank city busters as gildarts destoyed a town once by tripping and look how he ended up against acnologia.

That is quite significant dont you think. Imagine acnologias just chillin in the sky firing island busters. (which was still a casual blast)

The both smash things and nuke things ill give you acnologia has less to show for durability but other then that there comparable.

@Jl2

Juubi has : Nuking, Smashing stuff, Tanking. But no mobility.

Acnologia has : Nuking, Smashing stuff, (lower level) tanking and flight(Huge mobility)

Having better tanking feats does not mean juubi has a ocean of feats because it simply doesnt. They have about an equal amount of feats.

Or did you forget that juubi only bijuu bombs/beams and tanking.

[321zigzag3]

Originally Posted by Noctis Arashi

But also note that the power displayed by Acnologia was it playing around, and stated to be significantly less than that of when Gildarts encountered it.

It was playing around although I am not sure the casual blast was playing around but who knows.

Originally Posted by Uchiha Sora

But then again he did tank Bee's Bijuu bomb to the face.

Recall when before Juubi burst out Bee and Kyuubi did a combined beast ball and it did nothing.

Originally Posted by JLI2infinity

If people like Gildarts or Makarov at full strength end up being mountain busters (like Bee and Naruto)

I can see Gildarts being city level depending on the circumstance.

(Natsu's Dazzling Blaze, Mirajane's blast, Gajeel's Iron God Sword) or at most are city busters (Erza's Fairy Armor in Edolas).

I think you mean city block or more.

Originally Posted by BMC1994

It hasnt even moved , you could say reaction speed at most from zigzags example.

It did move against BM Naruto and Hachibi in its first form.

That is why NAruto said, "OMG SPEEDZER!"

A swing by its tail? Assuming the acnologia wouldnt be flying, what has the tail destroyed which makes you think he can scratch acnologia.

Hachibi was able to generate whirlwind that was pretty much size of a town by spinning around.

The Mountains are pretty small.

While people have a different view on sizes of mountains. People's opinions are still within the consistent range.

They weren't that small.

-.- Island = Island.

Islands on the other hand vary in size. As in a lot.

Bijuu bombs have nuked mountains/Larger mountains at most. (not counting juubi it self)

Kyuubi is multiple mountain buster.

Bijuu modes speed is inconsistent.

Welcome to Manga or comics where there are lot of inconsistencies.
The point is about Juubi doesn't change at all with its speed.

You want me to point out FT speed inconsistency?
Here Gray riding a motorcycle to catch up Sugarboy.

It should be atleast be able to tank city busters as

Maybe but Juubi is way beyond that.

That is quite significant dont you think. Imagine acnologias just chillin in the sky firing island busters. (which was still a casual blast)

Those blasts by Juubi were more or less casual too.

[BMC1994]

Originally Posted by 321zigzag3

It did move against BM Naruto and Hachibi in its first form.

That is why NAruto said, "OMG SPEEDZER!"



Hachibi was able to generate whirlwind that was pretty much size of a town by spinning around.



While people have a different view on sizes of mountains. People's opinions are still within the consistent range.

They weren't that small.



Islands on the other hand vary in size. As in a lot.



Kyuubi is multiple mountain buster.



Welcome to Manga or comics where there are lot of inconsistencies.
The point is about Juubi doesn't change at all with its speed.

You want me to point out FT speed inconsistency?
Here Gray riding a motorcycle to catch up Sugarboy.



Maybe but Juubi is way beyond that.



Those blasts by Juubi were more or less casual too.

Wasnt that just a swing of one of its tails. I meant it hasnt moved from its spot at all.

Kinda hard to measure. It destroyed large part (if not an entire) forest/wood.
When were talking city-buster how large are we talking. Because theres an huge difference between lets say LA and Amsterdam.

From my point of view it seemed like an avarage island. Not ridiculously small not ridiculously big. And acnologia actually destroyed 2 of those counting 'the island on top of the island' not to mention the giant tree dwarfing the island in lenght between them.

True forgot about his solo feats vs the jinchurikis.

Yes but for bm naruto these are just to much. One minute hes the next gen yellow flash. (being compared to someone who can teleport) the next he getting countered by tobi (ok he could handle the yellow flash) and madara whos not nearly as fast. Even being blitzed by A a couple of times.

He either cant move like that all time or cant move like in actual battle. Idk its just weird. And you cant say he holds back or something because there is no need to against the potential destoyers of the world/reality.
It raises questions like why didnt he atleast move like that against madara/obito.

Never claimed they werent.

[321zigzag3]

Originally Posted by BMC1994

Wasnt that just a swing of one of its tails. I meant it hasnt moved from its spot at all.

No it actually moved foward and rammed them. But then it never really moved again.

Kinda hard to measure. It destroyed large part (if not an entire) forest/wood.

Town-size was the best name I could give.
If you look at the scan. Hachibi considering how huge it is, was a small figure in the destroyed wood forest.

At least the range is in the town range.

From my point of view it seemed like an avarage island. Not ridiculously small not ridiculously big. And acnologia actually destroyed 2 of those counting 'the island on top of the island' not to mention the giant tree dwarfing the island in lenght between them.

And what is an average island to you? Because Tenrou doesn't certainly look like an average island size.



It certainly doesn't look bigger than 2 kilometers at best.

Or maybe I am wrong maybe it is few dozen kilometers to 50 kilometers but my eyes are so skewed I can't see it.

the next he getting countered by tobi (ok he could handle the yellow flash)

Tobi was countering Kyuubi Chakra Mode Naruto not Bijuu Mode Naruto.

and madara whos not nearly as fast. Even being blitzed by A a couple of times.

Madara being the resident God tier in Naruto and by shonen logic dictates and demands he has the reflexes to counter and of course reaction. He clearly isn't in BM Naruto's speed.

Not to mention BM Naruto managed to headbutt Tobi before he could react and go intangible.

A never really blitzed other than surprise Naruto due to his speed. When Naruto really focused he managed to bypass. Other than that they were within the same tier.

He either cant move like that all time or cant move like in actual battle. Idk its just weird. And you cant say he holds back or something because there is no need to against the potential destoyers of the world/reality.
It raises questions like why didnt he atleast move like that against madara/obito.

Madara and Obito talked about how they were having trouble controlling Juubi. Plus they are just going relatively easy against them.

Not to mention its Madara who wants to test out the powers while Obito wants to show them despair. Classic Villain move.

If you want the real answer its plot.