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Old 12-31-2012, 09:53 AM   #1
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Default Naruto vs Avatar: The Last Airbender

I'm not going to do a long list of abilities comparisons, since I think most of you already know about the character abilities. Now, if all characters (good and evil) joined together and a war between these two universes broke out, who would win?

Location: Flat grasslands with very few hiding spots, close to a lake and some mountains for water and earth users respectively.
Rules: No restrictions. This is an all-out battle between all characters, using their strongest abilities possible. Sozin's comet is present to enhance the ability of firebenders.

Some random matchups:

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  1. Naruto Uzumaki vs Aang
  2. Sasuke Uchiha vs Zuko
  3. Sakura Haruno vs Katara
  4. Gaara vs Toph Beifong
  5. Kakashi Hatake vs Iroh
  6. Pain vs Ozai
  7. Itachi Uchiha vs Azula
  8. Hiruzen Sarutobi vs Bumi
  9. Jiraiya vs Jeong Jeong
  10. Hinata Hyuga vs Ty Lee
  11. Tenten vs Mai
  12. Temari vs Suki
  13. Orochimaru vs Zhao
  14. Mei Terumi vs Pakku
  15. Kisame Hoshigaki vs Hama
  16. Kimimaro Kaguya vs Jet

My own conclusions:




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  1. Aang has the ability to use more elements, but Naruto's attack power seems superior in my opinion. The Naruto universe wins.
  2. Sasuke Uchiha should be able to defeat Zuko with superior lightning techniques and Mangekyo Sharingan. The Naruto universe wins.
  3. Katara's bloodbending defeats Sakura's close combat abilities. The Avatar universe wins.
  4. If Gaara is hovering on his sand, Toph cannot see him and is an easy target. The Naruto universe wins.
  5. I believe that Kakashi is fast enough to approach Iroh and use Chidori or Lightning Blade at short range. If not, he can use the Kamui. The Naruto universe wins.
  6. Pain definitely wins with powers superior to any firebending skills. The Naruto universe wins.
  7. Itachi Uchiha is more powerful than Azula thanks to his Mangekyo Sharingan abilities, including illusions, Amaterasu and Susanoo. The Naruto universe wins.
  8. Hiruzen Sarutobi is more powerful in my opinion, not to mention that he has a soul-sealing abilitiy. The Naruto universe wins.
  9. Jiraiya requires mostly close combat, but if he manages to shorten the distance he can easily overwhelm Jeong Jeong. The Naruto universe wins.
  10. Ty Lee uses pinpoint hand attacks while Hinata uses pinpoint hand attacks enhanced with chakra and a powerful dojutsu. The Naruto universe wins.
  11. No matter how skilled Mai is with throwing knives, Tenten has an utter superiority in the number of weapons she can use. The Naruto universe wins.
  12. Temari can use her fan to control wind, while Suki can use her fans to slash someone up close. Temari can also fly ontop of her fan. The Naruto universe wins.
  13. Orochimaru has a greater variety of elements and many powerful abilities that should overwhelm Zhao. The Naruto universe wins.
  14. Two masters of water. But Mei Terumi can also use lava and mist, both of which will melt Pakku's ice projectiles. The Naruto universe wins.
  15. Two other masters of water. Kisame may have trouble with Hama's bloodbending, but if he manages to summon a water clone to distract her he can easily overpower her. The Naruto universe wins.
  16. Jet uses two hooks, Kimimaro can summon an infinite number of bone weapons anywhere on his body. The Naruto universe wins.

The way I see it, the Naruto universe gets 15 victories out of 16 battles. Agree or disagree?

NOTE: You do not need to only use my matchups; this is a comparison of all characters (not armies) of the two universes.

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Old 12-31-2012, 10:13 AM   #2
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Naruto's verse has a huge speed advantage.
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naruto himself can solo the entire avatarverse, both series.
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Low Tier Avatarverse> Low tier naruto verse.

High Tier Narutoverse >>>>> High tier Avatarverse

These are all kinda ignoring the possible speed difference between verses because that only leads to discussion:
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1. Aang does have the most firepower of the entire avatar verse due to avatar state but still narutos speed is way to much and he isnt lacking in firepower either. Naruto.

2. If you stretch it sasukes raiton would be useless due to redirection. Still sasuke has amateresu (which still could be possibly bended which would suck for sauce).
But zuko has nothing on sasuke susanoo or tsukuyomi(even if mediocre). Sasuke.

3. Katara is more versatile then sakura is. That and she has an range advantage and can freeze sakura if needed. Katara.

4. Toph is strong but were talking about a guy who turned part of a forest into a desert. That and toph cant sandbend AND cant use seismic sense while on sand. This alrwady was a bad match up for toph but gaara feats also outscale hers. Gaara.

5. Iroh should be able to take kakashi head on easily. Iroh outclasses in firepower. It all depends when kamui comes out. Without that i would say iroh should easily win.(and i think he could lightning bend but i forgot). Either way depending on if iroh can finish kakashi before he uses kamui.(kakashi usually doesnt kamui off the bat the only instance he has done so was against tobi for obvious reasons)

6. Seriously? Ozai stomps (j/k pain wins , hes a better all round fighter and his feats outclass ozais even with sozais comet. That and hes outnumbered by pain.

7. Again naruto verse severly stomps. Itachi too much hax. That and his base abilites are also way beyond azulas.

8.Hype Aside. Bumis feats **** on hiruzen. Both power and scale wise. Reaper death would mean a tie. Not that hiruzen would be able to get close this guy conquered an entire city by himself. He can disappear/re-appear from the ground. Hiruzens like 3-4 jutsu dont compare to bumis earth bending.

9. Gamabunta/ nuff said. Jiraiya wins easily.

10. Hard to compare. Ty lee easily defeated some powerfull benders in her own verse. While hinata got smacked around in her but Narutoverse top tiers are more powerfull then those in avatar. Hinatas got air palm but tai lee deals with benders on a daily basis so closing the distance would be no problem. Gonna say tie , for now.

11. If canon feats only TenTen would either lose horribly (because she has no canon feats ) or stomp (banana fan)

12. Temaris fan alone take a dump on zukis fans that and Temari decimates forests. Temari wins.

13. The dude got ripped in half and put himself back together -while smiling-. Zhoa aint got nothing on him. Oro wins , easily.

14. Mei water and mist would be rendered useless by pakku water bending. But i dont see pakku holding out against lava too long. Mei chances are higher.

15. If full moon hama stomps. Cant do anything when your neck gets snapped by yourself. If not full moon kisame should win. Fighting people like bee puts him way beyond anything hama could ever hurt.

16. Cmon thats not even fair. Kimi.


Naruto could most likely solo the avatar verse one on one but against all its possible that he gets blood bended while he is fighting someone else. Tbb should care of that but still its a possibility.

Naruto cant solo his own verse Juubi stomps him, and bee, and every other fighter in the entire narutoverse.
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I think we all know this is a horrible stomp in favor of the Narutoverse. What does Avatarverse plan to do about the Juubi or Edo Tensei?
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Low Tier Avatarverse> Low tier naruto verse.
What would be low tier Avatarverse?


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What does Avatarverse plan to do about the Juubi or Edo Tensei?
Summon Avatar fans who believe that manipulation of 4 elements >>> all.

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Other than the hypothetical Koh the Face-stealer strikes first scenario I don't see anything else.

Then again Legend of Korra is due up to 4 seasons. It could change in the future. We'll see.
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That would be your general fodder benders. Like fire nation army. Earth kingdom army, Dai Lee etc. Bending is more versatile then then sole fireball or waterdragon jutsu naruto fodder knows.
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Doesn't Naruto fodder have superior speed even to the point of blitzing at close quarters at least?

Also fodder in the war weren't that useless.

A group of them even countered Madara's gigantic multi-fireball.
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I dont see how featless fodder would have superior speed.(you could agrue that shunshin no jutsu would be base knowledge but there are 100s of examples of even non fodder ninja not using it).

The weakest ninjas in the start were basicly glorified martial artists , which is the standard which i view fodder at.

And avatar fodder also happen to be glorified martial artists.

Groups dont count. Otherwise Fire Nation fodder can burn casually decimate forests.
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I dont see how featless fodder would have superior speed.(you could agrue that shunshin no jutsu would be base knowledge but there are 100s of examples of even non fodder ninja not using it).
Take in mind that a fodder Sound ninja could have killed genin Sakura via blitzing if it weren't for Kakashi.

Even named characters had problems with fodder Zetsus.


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Glorified as in exaggeration to me.

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I dont see how featless fodder would have superior speed.(you could agrue that shunshin no jutsu would be base knowledge but there are 100s of examples of even non fodder ninja not using it).

The weakest ninjas in the start were basicly glorified martial artists , which is the standard which i view fodder at.

And avatar fodder also happen to be glorified martial artists.

Groups dont count. Otherwise Fire Nation fodder can burn casually decimate forests.
Only the Naruto high tiers are so much stronger than the Avatar high tiers, the fodder doesn't matter at all. Numbers mean nothing to the Juubi, or Madara, Onoki/Muu, and Gaara (and many others) for that matter. Also going to put it out there that Avatar fodder need existing sources of earth, water, etc. to bend, whereas Naruto fodder can create the stuff and aren't limited to elemental abilities to fight. In pitched battles of war-sized confrontations the shinobi would also have the advantage of instantly being able to adapt and form new strategies through mass telepathy from Inoichi's technique-this is provided that the Avatarverse army isn't just destroyed by a TBB, island-sized Jinton, or swing of the sword from Perfect Susanoo right off the bat.
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^I pretty much agree with you im just saying that lower tiers avatar are stronger and more versatile then lower tier naruto.

Anyway there is plenty of earth pretty much everywhere, shinobi die without air and fire doesnt need an elemental resource. The only problem would be water which can be extracted from plants.

Fodder shinobi only have taijutsu and shuriken/kunai with the occasional elemental jutsu here and there.

While avatar fodder (like dai lee) easily bend huge parts of earth, have superior protectile(attacks) which (usually) arent limited to number(kunai), or chakra(jutsu).

Ofcourse in a all out war they woud get curbstomped but i am just saying that one on one (avatarfodder vs Naruto fodder) avatar fodder has a good chance of winning.

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You mean dosu and his group or other people? Doesnt even really matter i mean pts sakura was the embodiment of fodder. she was only protected by plotarmor.

*fodder zetsu powered up by yamatos first hokage cells, not sure whats supposed to be the difference but they are supposed to be stronger.
Also one white zetsu one upped most of the kages with his spore technique didnt he? Plus zetsu can imitate people as much as he likes.

Zetsu is really underrated
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While avatar fodder (like dai lee) easily bend huge parts of earth, have superior protectile(attacks) which (usually) arent limited to number(kunai), or chakra(jutsu).
Dai Lee seemed to be above Average fodder.

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So no blitz in a close quarter scenario? This fight seems to be more dependent on location and especially distance.

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Yet as a genin she had superior speed and reflexes compared to an average bender.

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I think we can all agree on this:

Main characters vs main characters: Naruto victory.
Army vs army: Avatar victory (if there are no named characters; only soldiers).
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Main characters vs main characters: Naruto victory.
Army vs army: Avatar victory (if there are no named characters; only soldiers).
naruto is in the army so no, and many ninjas could alot of damage than any bender

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Old 01-01-2013, 11:41 AM   #17
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Even without calcs people should be able to see the huge difference in speed. Even the fodder dodges high velocity projectiles from time to time. Avatar as a whole are still human level besides their stats. Their bending is the only thing super even that is weak aside from the Avatar buddha mode. This fight could literally be won with Kunai to the throat.
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because he is an mach 20 island buster



naruto is in the army so no, and many ninjas could alot of damage than any bender
Army vs army is just nameless soldiers, no characters. And the benders/soldiers of the Avatar universe are far more numerous than the shinobi of the Naruto universe.
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Avatar fodder beating Naruto fodder lol.
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because he is an mach 20 island buster
this is what i was looking for, a response. it is also the response i somewhat expected from you, that is a response featuring "mach this, bust that", based on some sort of calculation apparently. first of all you can not go about calculating manga/comics (unless you want to calculate everything, literally everything...and see where that gets you. hint: you'll make a mockery out of you entire method)...but second of all you claim "island busting" as if AOE is an "end all". now AOE is fine and all, but you are aware that characters battle with attacks that may not cause any collateral damage, but are far more lethal and/or powerful than the AOE attacks they spew? in other words, just because character A may be far more potent with AOE attacks, does not mean that said character A is more lethal and/or powerful in combat than character B. but i'l use Bleach for example: take dangai ichigo. now you are familiar with his sword slashesh, and his mugetsu? now surely you would'nt attempt to gauge the attack potency and/or lethality of mugetsu via AOE collateral damage now would you? the same thins in Dragon Ball, where surely you would not attempt to gauge the attack potency and/or lethality of mirai trunks's sword slashesh via AOE colateral damage now would you? actually a better example would be trunks's burning attack; in AOE it hardly damaged a boulder...so going by your method, that would make it a "boulder buster"? of course not. it is a compressed attack, and thus is not designed to cause AOE damage; it is designed to compress energy efficiently into the ki blast and take out the enemy and only the enemy, while causing minimal (if any) collateral damage. and needless to say both of these attacks were lethal to frieza. just a few examples of many where going strictly by AOE would mislead you dearly
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