Right to bear arms

[Shikamaru Nara]

Originally Posted by Cyl

I know plenty of Highschools in Chicago with security and cops in them...including my own.

Point in case.

Originally Posted by joon61

Guns are used by cowards or people who simply cannot get their way. The best thing to use in self-defense,is your fists. What i don't understand is,why are guns still in this world if the law forbids you to have them?

I would love to see you try to fend off a crazy person with a gun with your 15 year old fists. -_-

[joon61]

I would try to quickly tackle him. Bottom line is,no one should have them. If you are fobiden to have a gun,then why the hell are they still being made? What you can do is learn the bullet timing like edward elric.XD

[Shikamaru Nara]

because people need jobs?

[joon61]

So they make guns?

[Shikamaru Nara]

Yeah. If you manufacture guns in a factory, you get paid by your employer so you can feed yourself and/or your family.

[Obito]

Still, whoever made the first gun didn't have the mindset of defending people... Think about it C:

[joon61]

Then i guess it is one of those things that cannot be helped. There is no way to solve the problem. This world can't even evolve because of people's insatnity.

@obito:I thought about that but the only thing that person was thinking about,was inventing something or geting paid for something so he could live peacefully or whatever.

[Obito]

More like, people don't learn from past. Wars, etc. It'll never happen because as long as gun are being sold, people... Are gonna continue to die O:, it's a cycle mate.

[joon61]

One of the never ending cycles of life that cannot be stoped unless something BIG happens.

[Shikamaru Nara]

Originally Posted by Obito

Still, whoever made the first gun didn't have the mindset of defending people... Think about it C:

I don't know what the origin of the gun has to do with the right to own a gun.
And without guns in war, we're all dead.

[joon61]

Whatever happened to swords?

[Shikamaru Nara]

Guns.

[joon61]

I just don't know anymore.................
If someone has a gun and they are willing to use it on you,you're dead unless you have a death no-never mind.

[Bacon]

Originally Posted by Jinchiruuki

The first undertaking would be rebuilding our government. Which who knows if that will ever happen.

Our government is like windows vista: Works for a year and then crashes

When the crash occurs(As witnessed in 2009's state government failures across the board), the implement system restore to make things normal again.

[Obito]

Originally Posted by Shikamaru Nara

I don't know what the origin of the gun has to do with the right to own a gun.
And without guns in war, we're all dead.

If nobody has guns, bombs and all that life sucking abyss, in all the wars we had, nations would have lived. But, strangely why do I see you have a point, figuratively, a gun in the wrong hands can lead to chaos.

[Shisko Shi]

Teachers with guns, doesn't do anything. They would need trainning and by the time they pull it out they are dead.

That guy will come in and with knowing teachers have them or not hed take the teacher out first.

[Obito]

Teacher's aren't stupid, they're teachers.

[BMC1994]

Originally Posted by Shikamaru Nara

I don't know what the origin of the gun has to do with the right to own a gun.
And without guns in war, we're all dead.

Actually without guns there would be alot less dead people in war as it takes way longer to kill someone with swords/bows/bare hands.

Originally Posted by Shikamaru Nara

Yeah. If you manufacture guns in a factory, you get paid by your employer so you can feed yourself and/or your family.

Because the weapon industry is the only source of jobs?

[PrinceofPeace]

when has a gun been used in a good way (besides with the police)

I mean when a crazy person or villian is on the attack most people do not have a gun to protect themselves or even if they did they failed

Guns are icky.

[Jinchiruuki]

Originally Posted by Shikamaru Nara

How the hell is it smart to let people have guns in a school when someone just came and shot up that school? God forbid a kid sees the gun. I'm sure that would go over like a ton of freaking bricks.

I meant security guards/cops that are in the school. Although I have a relatively big school with over 2k kids, so it's a possibility that it's just my school and that's not a normal thing. And you don't think that some teachers would also abuse their power if they had guns? There's a reason why there are "No Weapons" rules in schools.

I'm completely in agreement with your last statement, because in my opinion, the government is still corrupt and full of shit.

Like I said, if it MEANT protecting people then I am all for it. Tools such as guns are always going to be abused. Same with cars. Same with airplanes. People make the weapon not the tool itself.

Shika, given your agreement on that last statement of mine, I would be more than happy to share information with you, that will take you so far down a rabbit hole you will understand EVERYTHING.

Originally Posted by joon61

Guns are used by cowards or people who simply cannot get their way. The best thing to use in self-defense,is your fists. What i don't understand is,why are guns still in this world if the law forbids you to have them?

Guns are used by people. People decide its uses. Whether to murder, defend, threaten or "puff up the chest". Try using your fists against an AR-15 Assault rifle with hollow point rounds, I'd like to see that.

The law ? It is our 2ND AMENDMENT RIGHT, to bear arms. You should do a bit more research before saying false things.

Originally Posted by Bacon

Our government is like windows vista: Works for a year and then crashes

When the crash occurs(As witnessed in 2009's state government failures across the board), the implement system restore to make things normal again.

Agreed on most of that analogy except nothing goes back to normal. It may seem that way but in reality it just gets worse. We are on the "200 year empire" Cliff about to fall. Just like Rome and many others. Whether it will be politically, financially or militarily who knows.

Originally Posted by BMC1994

Because the weapon industry is the only source of jobs?

The 2 biggest industries in the world are weapons and drugs. Every criminal sells and buys the above. A large percentage of your average person also buys them. Haven't you heard of war profiteering? Doesn't have to be some distant war in another land. War on Drugs, War on Terror, War on whatever the hell we wage war on, is purely for corporate profits.

Originally Posted by PrinceofPeace

when has a gun been used in a good way (besides with the police)

I mean when a crazy person or villian is on the attack most people do not have a gun to protect themselves or even if they did they failed

Guns are icky.

Clearly you have not done your research either. There have been plenty of cases of SWAT Teams, Police etc breaking into peoples homes and shooting them on the pretense that the house they entered was a drug pin or some crap. The number of cops who abuse their guns stacks higher than that of the average sociopath.