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Old 12-19-2012, 09:18 PM   #41
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Default Re: 2nd & 4th mizukage vs madara

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What good is Susanoo? Madara would just be hurting himself after a while and Susanoo can not tank a TBB or Joki boy forever!
You argument is based on that Madara just stands there like an idiot.


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Madara respected and feared the GREAT HASHIRAMA. Madara is overconfident and woud not use it off the bat.
Plus we do not know the effects of it. Madara may not be able to use it cuz he
-does not have enough chakra.
-the toll is too much on his body
He may be overconfident but he wasn't stupid.
The reason why he is more arrogant is because he is an Edo Tensei.

Your toll and chakra argument is not going to matter much because MAdara implied he used it against Hashirama.
Manga supports this.



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chp please. Prove he is oil/water.
Have you never read when Gaara directly commented on it?

Read Naruto Chapter 556

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yeah it disppels after it counters the threat
Thats why the Water Mirror argument is not that effective.

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chp plz i need proof. But Madara did not use PS on 5 kages so why would he blitz it for 2?
Read Naruto Chapter 589

It was during when Madara was still alive.
I only said it because at worst case scenario for Madara, if he has no options he will use it.


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Old 12-19-2012, 09:33 PM   #42
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no he can use susanoo or Katon or wood style... but there is no point
susanoo(has it up but it is not the pefect shield)

Katon(could fire it in wrong direction and can be countered or destroyed with TBB)

wood style (takes a while to activated and joki boi blasts it away)

I believe you... but we still do not know how well he would use it or the abilities of PS

no I'm saving it for anime

how so?

the mist still blocks his vision and how would he surive TBB?
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no he can use susanoo or Katon or wood style... but there is no point
susanoo(has it up but it is not the pefect shield)
He has Susanoo and Katons.


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I believe you... but we still do not know how well he would use it or the abilities of PS
Same as Edo Madara using PErfect Susanoo.

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the mist still blocks his vision and how would he surive TBB?
You do realize that going bijuu mode makes MAdara really wanting to go bipedal Susanoo, use Sharingan Genjutsu, and even maybe use PErfect Susanoo?
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Old 12-19-2012, 09:49 PM   #44
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which is countered by Joki boy or TBB

we do not know how hard it would be cuz of the chakra drain and cellular pain

but how would Madara see the bijju?
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which is countered by Joki boy or TBB
Joki Boy has a cool down time. TBB is your best counter. Perfect Susanoo in hype.

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we do not know how hard it would be cuz of the chakra drain and cellular pain
Madara isn't Itachi or Sasuke. He is likely not going to be affected.

Regardless the point is that he used it well against Hashirama to his fullest.

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but how would Madara see the bijju?
Ok now this is a good argument.

The only counter I could form on this is that Sharingan Genjutsu can decipher the 2nd Mizukage's Mist.

Or the transformation is noticable enough in height or in build up of chakra.
Bijuu is very tall after all.
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Old 12-19-2012, 10:14 PM   #46
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yes TBB would go after Joki boi is down

we do not know about well. Heck we barley know anything

chakra is chakra to the sharigan it can not tell the difference but the bykugan can. it could be the joki boi instead
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Only if Sanbi transforms.

WE do know what it was shown on panel.

Sharingan is the master of breaking and detecting genjutsu.
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Old 12-19-2012, 10:39 PM   #48
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the mist is not like regular genjutsu. it effects the field plus it is chakara so it can not be disregarded
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You should elaborate how the mist negates Sharingan.
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sharigan and rinnegan just see chakra... the mist is covered in chakra so its just a big blob
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The mist produces mirages.

Sharingan does well in clarity for perception so it can recognize different genjutsu and chakra.

Recall chakra can be seen by sharingan different colors.
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not for different people
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No its for all Sharingan. Thats what they do.
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I was talkin bout the chakra
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And sharingan can different colors for different chakra, and if you are skilled enough gain extra clarity in deciphering genjutsu.
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No I'm saying the chakra is the same color . Blue!
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Different people have different colors of chakra. Sharingan gives color to chakra, if the mist covered the field and was dense enough then Maddy couldn't see anything

But I don't think obscuring vision was the purpose of his mist
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idk I'm done. I don't really know much about him but all I know is

Joki boy is powerful and can not be surivived easily
TBB is major Ochies
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Different people have different colors of chakra. Sharingan gives color to chakra, if the mist covered the field and was dense enough then Maddy couldn't see anything

But I don't think obscuring vision was the purpose of his mist
THe obscuring is Hidden Mist's characteristic.

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Not all chakra is blue, thats was anime.
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