Juubi vs HST

[JLI2infinity]

LOL the entire HST are we forgetting something

Captain Commander Yamamoto Genryussai

BAN-KAI

[Ultimate combatant]

Originally Posted by JLI2infinity

LOL the entire HST are we forgetting something

Captain Commander Yamamoto Genryussai

BAN-KAI

I'd say Bijuu bomb is more destructive.

On a side note, watch the panel where Juubi creates Bijuu bomb and it hits land. You can see the giant explosion, but if you look at the bottom of the panel, you will see a crater, where Juubi is located, a Massive crater, which looks so small compared to the explosion!!!

[Shikamaru Nara]

Do you have any basis to that statement? Because I'm pretty sure that the intangibles in One Piece, the Captains in Bleach and the MS users in Naruto are more than enough to overwhelm one beast.

[Ultimate combatant]

Originally Posted by Shikamaru Nara

Do you have any basis to that statement? Because I'm pretty sure that the intangibles in One Piece, the Captains in Bleach and the MS users in Naruto are more than enough to overwhelm one beast.

Shinobi alliance is fighting it right now, and it doesn't look too good for them!!!

[Shikamaru Nara]

Is it a Gauntlet or a free for all?

[megabbaut]

If it's a gauntlet, Juubi should win pretty casually. If it's a Free for All, Juubi would be outnumbered.

If the HST is counting Toriko then this is a different story.

[321zigzag3]

Originally Posted by Vatanui AKA Pride

Yes, but not accurately. It won't be an actual measure of the Juubi's strength.

Thats right. Still waiting for Piccolo - Moon feat

Originally Posted by JLI2infinity

LOL the entire HST are we forgetting something

Captain Commander Yamamoto Genryussai

BAN-KAI

Perhaps depending.

Originally Posted by megabbaut

If it's a gauntlet, Juubi should win pretty casually. If it's a Free for All, Juubi would be outnumbered.

Probably

If the HST is counting Toriko then this is a different story.

If this was in the OBD or maybe in Vs forum, mandatory statements like Fairy Tail gone down under will occur.

They even tried to rate the 1st form Juubi to Toriko's giant beasts ranking.

[Ultimate combatant]

Originally, Juubi was defeated by being sealed. There are some, who could possibly do so. But they would have to be strongly defended!!!

[Vatanui AKA Pride]

Originally Posted by Ultimate combatant

Shinobi alliance is fighting it right now, and it doesn't look too good for them!!!

Last I checked, every high-tier in the Shinobi Alliance is currently handicapped or not participating in the battle. The Kages were all beaten by Madara at an earlier point. Kakashi and Gai are more or less at the verge of collapsing from chakra loss, or at least are going to be. Neither Bee or Naruto can use their Bijuus, who are still recuperating.

Not to mention the obviously point that having every person, at optimum strengths, in the Naruto universe going up against the Juubi at once obviously would have a much higher chance of defeating it than a battle-worn Shinobi Alliance's who just had its' chain of command effectively broken. Bundle in the rest of the HST universes with that, and it could be argued that we have is a square done deal.

Originally Posted by Uchiha Sora

If Menos Grande were town busters then how is karakura town still standing they must have fired a cero on it at least once

IIRC, I don't they ever have.

Ichigo deflected/absorbed the Menos Grande's Cero with Uryu's help in the earlier chapters, and then forced it to retreat before it could have fired off another blast. The only other instances Grande's were shown was at the Hueco Mundo and Fake Karakura Town Arc, where they were reduced to cannon fodder before even having a chance to fire off a Cero. Same goes for Soul Society.

[Noctis Arashi]

I dunno, none of this changes the fact that the juubi pretty much did the most destructive thing we've seen in the 3 verses casually. In a non-complete state too.

I'm willing to bet prime Juubi rapestomps the current HST. This incomplete Juubi did fire a blast that anihilated, many, many, many mountains and stretched into the mesosphere. I can't even think of a feat that comes too close.

[Vatanui AKA Pride]

Originally Posted by Noctis Arashi

I dunno, none of this changes the fact that the juubi pretty much did the most destructive thing we've seen in the 3 verses casually. In a non-complete state too.

I'm willing to bet prime Juubi rapestomps the current HST. This incomplete Juubi did fire a blast that anihilated, many, many, many mountains and stretched into the mesosphere. I can't even think of a feat that comes too close.

Nonetheless, it's a mindless beast. Or at least it's been depicted as thus far.

And even as impressive as the Juubi's Bijuu Bomb blasts have been, I still don't see how that could somehow negate the intangibility properties of the Logias in OP.

[Noctis Arashi]

If we're gonna do the whole, equalization thing, then chakra=haki.

Feelin' pretty bad for those logias.

[Mangetsu Hozuki]

WAIT!

What's HST?

[Uchiha Sora]

Originally Posted by Noctis Arashi

If we're gonna do the whole, equalization thing, then chakra=haki.

Feelin' pretty bad for those logias.

Not exactly. Haki is a technique. Wouldn't really say Chakra=haki

[Noctis Arashi]

Haki is a power in all living things that only few awaken to be able to use in a technique.
Chakra is a power in all living things that only a few awaken to be able to use in a technique.

[BMC1994]

Originally Posted by Noctis Arashi

Haki is a power in all living things that only few awaken to be able to use in a technique.
Chakra is a power in all living things that only a few awaken to be able to use in a technique.

Not really chakra is more like a life source (hence people dieng when they run out). Everyone has it. No one has to awaken it. Hence naruto in part 1 even was able to use it from the beginning , where as luffy who started out stronger compared to the beginning area of his verse (east blue) still was not able to use it.

Haki is more of a hidden ability that sleeps deep within. You cant really run out of haki you always have it. Also 2 forms of haki can be learned.

Anyway haki and chakra are both very diferrent in how they work/operate their not really comparable to equalization should not go up here.

And seriously barragan could just age it away. Mayuri could make a drug for it and it still can be slapped to the other side of the planet by kuma. etc etc.Kamui could possibly seal it off from the world. Not to mention that technically juubi still cant take out obito unless it shows some space time feats.

Destructive feats are almost useless compered to hax feats like regen, hypnosis,time control etc.

On top of that current juubi isnt even the form which it starts out with.

@UC

A shinobi alliance consisting of fodder and the k11(which are atm glorified fodder) are not close to the strenght of both the entire one piece verse and the entire bleach verse.

[Vivi]

Didn't Law just recently "slice" Punk Hazard in half?

[NaruHina fan]

Originally Posted by Vivi

Didn't Law just recently "slice" Punk Hazard in half?

He only removed the lab's roof, which was built onto the mountain, and then put it back.

And this weeks Naruto chapter has

Spoiler:

Neji and Hinata blocking one of the Juubi's attacks on their own.

[BoxHead]

Originally Posted by Vivi

Didn't Law just recently "slice" Punk Hazard in half?

Didn't BB and Ace "destroy" Banaro like years ago?

[Vivi]

Originally Posted by BoxHead

Didn't BB and Ace "destroy" Banaro like years ago?

Irrelevant.We're talking about Law's hax here which bypasses durability.