young obito vs young naruto???

[KunaiMaster]

who would win? I would say obito is smarter.

[PrinceofPeace]

Sexy Jutsu then shadow clone spam then wrap it up with rasengan or summon gama GG

[BMC1994]

Obito has a range advantage with fireball jutsu but clone feints take care of that. Also rasengan is essentially a one hit jutsu if it hits pts characters (like kabuto). And naruto can still summon Bunta.

Pts naruto is still quite strong he could give most chuunin and a couple of jonin a run for their money.

[JLI2infinity]

LMAO What a joke, Naruto murks him.

Clone spam -> Transformation -> Rasengan GG

If he caught Kabuto with it Obito is toast I don't want to here troll comments about an intelligence gap. Naruto has managed to deceive almost any opponent he's fought against.

[Dragon Style]

Obito wins. Young Obito still has MS and Wood Style thanks to the recent manga flash backs.

[PrinceofPeace]

Too bad Obito can not control Wood style very well. He would have to under inentnse traurma to do that IC
I will give you Kaumi(being able to be intangible) but still it would be hard and he could not use it as well.

But even with all that Naruto STILL wins

Naruto's 2,000 clones is way more than the enemies Obito defeated.

Naruto could just barage intangibale tobi until time runs out for Obito

All in all.....

Gama GG

[Heji Oka]

Originally Posted by PrinceofPeace

Too bad Obito can not control Wood style very well. He would have to under inentnse traurma to do that IC
I will give you Kaumi(being able to be intangible) but still it would be hard and he could not use it as well.

But even with all that Naruto STILL wins

Naruto's 2,000 clones is way more than the enemies Obito defeated.

Naruto could just barage intangibale tobi until time runs out for Obito

All in all.....

Gama GG

I have to disagree and give the fight to Obito because most of what is listed would be OOC for Naruto to use against him.

1. naruto as a kid never showed he could make close to that many clones without the nine tail foxs chakra. Which the only way naruto would use that is if he was angry enough which would mean that obito would have had to make a personal attack against naruto, one of his friends or said something that would enrage him. However that couldn't happen seeing as he doesn't know naruto or anything about him which would mean naruto would see him as an enemy just not one that enrages him to the point of the ninetail chakra.

2. Naruto wouldn't use gama becaue it would be OOC since the only times he's summoned gama to fight in the manga and anime as a kid were only against giant opponents and since obito isn't a giant that means gama wouldn't make a appearance.

In short naruto would be defeated by obitos MS since naruto wouldn't know how to deal with it and as a kid never showed intelligence high enough to deal with such a technique.

[JLI2infinity]

Originally Posted by Heji Oka

I have to disagree and give the fight to Obito because most of what is listed would be OOC for Naruto to use against him.

1. naruto as a kid never showed he could make close to that many clones without the nine tail foxs chakra. Which the only way naruto would use that is if he was angry enough which would mean that obito would have had to make a personal attack against naruto, one of his friends or said something that would enrage him. However that couldn't happen seeing as he doesn't know naruto or anything about him which would mean naruto would see him as an enemy just not one that enrages him to the point of the ninetail chakra.

2. Naruto wouldn't use gama becaue it would be OOC since the only times he's summoned gama to fight in the manga and anime as a kid were only against giant opponents and since obito isn't a giant that means gama wouldn't make a appearance.

In short naruto would be defeated by obitos MS since naruto wouldn't know how to deal with it and as a kid never showed intelligence high enough to deal with such a technique.

That's aided Obito in extreme circumstances. He had Zetsu fused with him and was experiencing extreme trauma, he couldn't perform those techniques on his own yet. It'd be like if Jiraiya showed up and magically gave Naruto Sage Mode then had them fight.

Saying Naruto won't use Gama because it's OoC isn't a valid argument in the BGs considering we are comparing opponents who have never fought before therefore all options should be on the table, maybe he wouldn't use it right off the bat but you can't say he wouldn't use it at all unless you have canon evidence that he dislikes the technique. I also disagree that it's OoC considering Naruto intended to summon Gama to help him fight Kisame but got stopped by Samehada.

[PrinceofPeace]

Excellent point!! But I doubt naruto needs gama. Clone spam is more than enough

[MinatoXNaruto]

9-tailed Cloak. GG

[Uchiha Sora]

Naruto rapes his face off

Obito sucks. Only reason he could pull any of that Off was because he was fused with Zetsu and had mentally snapped

[Heji Oka]

Originally Posted by PrinceofPeace

Excellent point!! But I doubt naruto needs gama. Clone spam is more than enough

The clone spam needed would be OOC since he would need ninetail chakra but since it hasn't been said that Obito has attacked one of narutos friends or kidnapped them or even bad mouth them naruto wouldn't get to that point with him. Naruto without the ninetail chakra would be able to produce the same amount of clones as either when he fought neji or when he faced sasuke on the roof (which ever had more). Which means they would all be dispatched with little difficulty since obito would only have to do as sasuke did and blast them with fire ball to destroy them. Also in every fight that naruto had as kid naruto has never spammed the shadow clones to the point needed to beat obito. Naruto vs neji notice he didn't create anymore but one clone after neji destroyed the rest. Naruto vs gaara notice after he made the large amount of clones he didn't create anymore after gaara destroyed them. Sasuke vs Naruto (rooftop) notice after sasuke destroyed the clones that naruto only had one so he could make rasengan. Naruto vs kimimaruo that while he destroyed narutos clones that naruto didn't replace the clones destroyed. Finally naruto vs sasuke(valley of the end) that after sasuke destroyed all of narutos clone that naruto didn't create anymore. This proves that after naruto has created a large amount of clones that he won't spam them once they are destroyed because it in not IC.

9-tailed Cloak. GG

Before he can use the cloak as a kid he needs to meet the requirements for it to be IC. One is that he would have to be angry eough to release the first level of the ninetails which has only been shown to be done when he is enraged by these factors, Obito would have had to attacked one of narutos friends or kidnapped one of them. Next after that requirement is met he would then have to be on the verge of death for the ninetails to step in and "give" him that power. Until these happen in that order naruto wouldn't be able to use the cloak since any other method for kid naruto would not be IC. So since he would be facing a traumatized obito, Obito would kill him since he is or has gone through the mental shock of seeing rin die.

Naruto rapes his face off

Obito sucks. Only reason he could pull any of that Off was because he was fused with Zetsu and had mentally snapped

Yes however all of this is done as kid Obito still and since its not said that it's kid obito before rin died then that means that Obito is the same as he was when Rin died in this fight which means he has the Zetsu, MS and has mentally been unhinged. Which would allow him to pull of the feats in the fight however for naruto to get to that power boost requirements are needed from fight to fight. Unlike obito whos trauma can be universal from fight to fight naruto doesn't get mad in one fight and then in a fight later still carries the same anger towards a different opponent so he would need to get angry enough to use the Nine tails.

[Heji Oka]

Originally Posted by JLI2infinity

That's aided Obito in extreme circumstances. He had Zetsu fused with him and was experiencing extreme trauma, he couldn't perform those techniques on his own yet. It'd be like if Jiraiya showed up and magically gave Naruto Sage Mode then had them fight.

Saying Naruto won't use Gama because it's OoC isn't a valid argument in the BGs considering we are comparing opponents who have never fought before therefore all options should be on the table, maybe he wouldn't use it right off the bat but you can't say he wouldn't use it at all unless you have canon evidence that he dislikes the technique. I also disagree that it's OoC considering Naruto intended to summon Gama to help him fight Kisame but got stopped by Samehada.

Actually as the rules state until the OP states that they are OOC they are still in character, next as shown on ch 146 sasuke was in trouble and that was the only reason he was about to summon but that factor isn't in this match so yes it would still be OOC to summon gama unless you can show otherwise. Also obito would have access to all his abilities since its not said that this is obito before rin dies which means he has MS, has the mental trauma which changed his out look on life and has the zetsu since he had it to fight the mist ninja and the fourth hokage.

Also I can prove that naruto doesn't usually like to summon against smaller opponents
Neji vs Naruto=no gama
Naruto before it was said that choji would face the sound ninja fives jirobou=no gama
Naruto before it was said that neji would face kidomaruo=no gama
Naruto vs kimi=no gama
Naruto vs sasuke=no gama
I'll even go to part two
Naruto vs kakashi at traing field=no gama
Naruto attacking deidera=no gama
Naruto vs itachi clone=no gama
naruto vs kakuzu=no gama
Even in the pain fight when gama was summoned he never ordered gama to attack any of the pains only to use his mouth to blind the one pain.

[Heji Oka]

Originally Posted by PrinceofPeace

Whatever naruto wins anyway

Please prove a way for him to win this battle.
Also I think everyone should remember that obito and kakashi are the same age and the age difference between naruto and kakashi is either 13 or 14 years so that means when minato faced off against obito he was still kid obito.

[PrinceofPeace]

Originally Posted by Heji Oka

The clone spam needed would be OOC since he would need ninetail chakra but since it hasn't been said that Obito has attacked one of narutos friends or kidnapped them or even bad mouth them naruto wouldn't get to that point with him.
By clone spam I am saying that Naruto would use a lot of clones. Not near the thousands but near the hundereds. Naruto repeatdly was able to use a lot of clones when fighting Haku. Naruto also used hundreds of clones to escape the snake and take on the rain ninja doublegangers. Naruto has the ability and will use a lot of clones in battle. Naruto will be able in character use more clones then there where mist ninja.
Naruto without the ninetail chakra would be able to produce the same amount of clones as either when he fought neji or when he faced sasuke on the roof (which ever had more).
he summonded the most when he
-escaped snake
-Fought Ame ninja
-fought haku
Which means they would all be dispatched with little difficulty since obito would only have to do as sasuke did and blast them with fire ball to destroy them.
naruto can easily dodge it or counter with rasengan.Naruto can tell when someone is using fire ball jutsu. Also Naruto was in a cramped space so it was not easy to dodge the attack.
Also in every fight that naruto had as kid naruto has never spammed the shadow clones to the point needed to beat obito.
I already gave you times above to discredit you
Naruto vs neji notice he didn't create anymore but one clone after neji destroyed the rest.
Again it was a smaller area. Naruto was testing out the foes ability
Naruto vs gaara notice after he made the large amount of clones he didn't create anymore after gaara destroyed them.
That cuz he used Gama. Too many factors played into this
-Friends in danger
-Village at risk
Sasuke vs Naruto (rooftop) notice after sasuke destroyed the clones that naruto only had one so he could make rasengan.
exactly. He did not need clones at the time
Naruto vs kimimaruo that while he destroyed narutos clones that naruto didn't replace the clones destroyed.
There was a LOT left. He did not need to waste chakra by adding more. Once again he tested the foes ability
Finally naruto vs sasuke(valley of the end) that after sasuke destroyed all of narutos clone that naruto didn't create anymore. This proves that after naruto has created a large amount of clones that he won't spam them once they are destroyed because it in not IC.
this is totally different
-getting hit
-emotional drama
-nine tails healing
A lot of factors played into this.

So are you saying when all the clones are gone ... Naruto will not make more?

9-tailed Cloak. GG

Before he can use the cloak as a kid he needs to meet the requirements for it to be IC. One is that he would have to be angry eough to release the first level of the ninetails which has only been shown to be done when he is enraged by these factors, Obito would have had to attacked one of narutos friends or kidnapped one of them. Next after that requirement is met he would then have to be on the verge of death for the ninetails to step in and "give" him that power. Until these happen in that order naruto wouldn't be able to use the cloak since any other method for kid naruto would not be IC. So since he would be facing a traumatized obito, Obito would kill him since he is or has gone through the mental shock of seeing rin die.
Just because it is traumatized Obito does not mean he will go off and attack others like he was back then. I agree with what you say about Naruto but Obito does not have the same hatred as he did then.

Naruto rapes his face off

Obito sucks. Only reason he could pull any of that Off was because he was fused with Zetsu and had mentally snapped

Yes however all of this is done as kid Obito still and since its not said that it's kid obito before rin died then that means that Obito is the same as he was when Rin died in this fight which means he has the
Zetsu,
Which he only used once offensively
MS
which we do not really know how he well he can use it collectedly (at least be intangiable)
and has mentally been unhinged.
Yes but Obito is not that mentally unhinged to attack someone who has nothing to do with Rin's death. Obito
Which would allow him to pull of the feats in the fight however for naruto to get to that power boost requirements are needed from fight to fight. Unlike obito whos trauma can be universal from fight to fight
I do not understand this logic. This is a whole new fight. Obito is not as bad as he was when he went crazy. After the fight he calmed down and realized what he did was so horrible. He could not even kill kakashi. In that moment in time Obito was crazy and powerful when he saw Rin die. but fighgint Naruto is not equal to that experience. It would not carry over cuz It has not carried over to current Obito
naruto doesn't get mad in one fight and then in a fight later still carries the same anger towards a different opponent so he would need to get angry enough to use the Nine tails.

SOrry i thought you were in favor of Naruto that is why I said Whaterver

[Heji Oka]

By clone spam I am saying that Naruto would use a lot of clones. Not near the thousands but near the hundereds. Naruto repeatdly was able to use a lot of clones when fighting Haku. Naruto also used hundreds of clones to escape the snake and take on the rain ninja doublegangers. Naruto has the ability and will use a lot of clones in battle. Naruto will be able in character use more clones then there where mist ninja.

In chapter 25 page 11 vs haku it shows naruto create 11 shadow clones now it you want to try and go "well off panel there were more" you'd have a hard time proving that there were at the most 30. After fighting haku chapter 33 page 9 he was only able to make 4 clones.

Next with the snake chapter 47 page 14 while you can't count the exact number by just looking you can't say there are more than 30 or 40 at the most.

Finally chapter 62 page 12 to 13 vs the mist there are no more than 30 clones.

This also still proves my point no matter the circumstance naruto after creating as large amount of clones won't create another large amount and until you can pull chapters that say otherwise it is still OOC.

naruto can easily dodge it or counter with rasengan.Naruto can tell when someone is using fire ball jutsu. Also Naruto was in a cramped space so it was not easy to dodge the attack

Next that was on the roof when sasuke fired the fire ball the space wasn't cramped it was just that sasuke increased the size of the fire ball so naruto couldn't dodge. Next if he uses rasengan obito can just make it phase through him since he's shown the react feats from the fight with minato.

Again it was a smaller area. Naruto was testing out the foes ability

Your giving naruto too much credit naruto never once tried to test neji's abilities he was trying to overwhelm him with numbers. To say that naruto was testing him would mean that naruto of part one was smart which had been shown he was not. if you want to say other wise prove it.

So once again naruto no matter the circumstance never used shadow clones in high numbers after doing it once which means if he did it for this fight it would be OOC.

Next by age Obito and kakashi are the same age and the age difference between kakashi and naruto is 13 to 14 years which means that obito was 13 or 14 when he faced minato so that means the skill, strategy and mindset he had in that fight apply's here since he was still kid obito.

[PrinceofPeace]

Okay.....
Currently it is IC for obito to use MS to phase through opponents. He does not use wood style unless emotional damaged. And obito never used fireball on an opponent to cause damage.

So basically obito can only use kaumi... Right?

[Shisko Shi]

When yousay young do you mean Genien level if so Naruto. When you say stuff like Sharringon or Fireball THen its liek Sasuke besides that Sasuke was better then Obito imo. So i say Naruto.

[Heji Oka]

Originally Posted by PrinceofPeace

Okay.....
Currently it is IC for obito to use MS to phase through opponents. He does not use wood style unless emotional damaged. And obito never used fireball on an opponent to cause damage.

So basically obito can only use kaumi... Right?

Even if we say just Kamui remember that it was young obito that faced Minato and forced minato to use ftg version 2. That alone puts his skill level far above narutos. And whiel he not have used it to cause damage the intention to cause damage was there and it would still help to get rid of the clones even if it did not damage naruto.

[Shisko Shi]

Originally Posted by Heji Oka

Please prove a way for him to win this battle.
Also I think everyone should remember that obito and kakashi are the same age and the age difference between naruto and kakashi is either 13 or 14 years so that means when minato faced off against obito he was still kid obito.

Also relise that if you look at it Obito was actully a Teenager if not 18 or so. Look at Kakashi and guy they are not kids, Time had passed and Kakashi was an ambu ninja at the time. so Kid Naruto (Geninen) and obito as a kid was the time he was crushed not when he attacked minato.