Sakura's Reasoning

[WishfulFairie]

Originally Posted by BMC1994

It wasnt selfish sakura just wanted to be usefull by destroying the kryptonite to sakuras super strenght

So she did it for herself

[PrinceofPeace]

Originally Posted by BMC1994

Less sauce is good for everyones development even sakuras.

just look at the timeline.

Pre-Time skip. Spend time with sasuke on a daily basis. Was nothingmore then a glorified fodder fangirl.

*sasuke leaves* 2.5 years later. Without Sauce around sakura has grown into a young women. After sasuke left sakura was no longer held back by her fangirlishness and actually started to gain strenght. To the point of fighting an renowned akatsuki and actually defeating him. Her first and most badass moment just after sauce left? cant be coincidence.

Then the team 7 reunion sasuke just beeing in mere sight range already throws any training and badass sakura had built up out the window. She was longer longer then poison curing , skullcracking with a single hit mini tsunade that was actually becoming likable.

Then After even more exposure to the sauce factor. Sakuras fangasms go to an whole nother level. No longer listening to any reasoning she puts together her dumbest plan ever and trys to kill sasuke with an poisoned kunai. (somehow forgetting she has super strenght) and even sabotages the persons who couldve just made her plan actually work.

And then after ample recovery from being exposed to the sauce factor. Sakuras super strenght and intelligence return and she uses them to smash a fake neji in a single blow in a nother moment of badassness for sakura.\

See the patern? The closer sasuke gets to sakura the more her strenght and intelligence diminish. Each time sasuke was even moderately involved in sakuras storyline she become utterly useless. And she got a badass moment after each time he left.

It wasnt selfish sakura just wanted to be usefull by destroying the kryptonite to sakuras super strenght

I DISAGREE!!

Remeber when Saskue was unable to move (or restricted) from using CS1? Garra was about to finish off Saskue but Sakura got in front of Saskue and protected him. She was UNSELFISH FOR SASKUE and risked her own life to protect her lover.
also
When Saskue was fighting Oro and Naruto was falling to his death Sakura saved Naruto with a kunai. So she was around Saskue and she did not mess up again.

Maybe for the most part Sakura messes up around Saskue but not all the time

of course during the time skip Sakura was going to get stronger.... everyone did!

She spent more time away from him than with him so she is most likely going to have more good moments cuz she is away from him more

WHen Sakura met Saskue for the first time she did take the opportunity to fight Saskue

Sakura was around Saskue when she fought the Oto trio

PTS Sakura was a fail all around and it was not cuz of Saskue.

[gama-sennin]

Originally Posted by Souret

They aren't all useless, konan has a built up back story and most of them have a character background

The thing is all these "growths" are always built around some male character or another. Its like the females can not exist independently. May be I find it that way because I don't understand the finer nuances of literature but, nevertheless, I find it pretty darn irritating that no female character has ever shown consistent growth in this series.

Originally Posted by PrinceofPeace

Sakura Hinata Temari and Tsuande have all grown

Temari can actually take out most men

With Tsuande it was purely fanservice and nothing more than that. If she was so powerful then why the hell she didn't use any of these awesome powers against pain?

IIRC, apart from Hinata, no one has shown any remarkable emotional development.

[PrinceofPeace]

fanservice... WHAT?!?!? The point is her chracter grew/changed. Her wanting to become Hokage is a big change right there. Also Tsunade is a close range fighter she has no long ranged jutsu so it is impossible for Tsunade to win. Pain would push her away whenever she gets close

Talking and Saving Naruto is huge growth lol The point is there is growth

[Saiyan]

Sakura would never kill sasuke to help him.

[Narutorious]

Considering the fact that her choice after Sai's talk about Naruto's suffering that she & Sasuke supposedly caused, she did it more to stop Naruto from going after Sasuke, deciding to kill the person she "loves" isn't selfish, however, how she did it was, she really should had just told Naruto what the others was thinking instead of keeping it from him, but the reality is she was doing for both regardless of shipping.

[PrinceofPeace]

Yeah she a dummy

[Kakashi Hatake_Yamato]

She's still selfish and obsessed.

[PrinceofPeace]

Thanks daph

[Narutorious]

Personally I'm more annoyed with Hinata's selfishness & obsession over Naruto, but this is probably because her character is solely based on her feelings for the guy.

[WishfulFairie]

Originally Posted by Narutorious

Personally I'm more annoyed with Hinata's selfishness & obsession over Naruto, but this is probably because her character is solely based on her feelings for the guy.

At least she's trying to better herself for herself. Yes, Naruto is a part of it but because he helped motivate her.

[PrinceofPeace]

EXCUSE ME!! Yes A bigg part of Hinata is her love for Naruto but there is soo much more
-her perssure to be her heir successor
-finding enemies in the war
-her love for her comrades (how she complimented Shino and cared for Kiba/Akamaru)
-training with Neji

[Kakashi Hatake_Yamato]

Hinata has a goal and life.
On the other hand.

Sakura: "SASUKE KOOONNNNNN! COME BACK TO MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!"

[WishfulFairie]

Sakura sings this song every time she thinks of Sasuke

YouTube:

will retire from spamming this thread while being on topic at the same time

[PrinceofPeace]

wow I have not heard her since FOREVER !! Other songs that describe realationships

NaruHina (bassically and nerdy quiet girl we need to be toghter desperate song)
-"You Belong With Me" (Talyor Swift) Hinata's point of view

NaruSaku (bassically any the spark is gone song)
-"Don't Leave Me" (P!nk) Sakura's point of view

SaskuSaku (bassically any song with pain and seperation)
-"Baby Come Back"-Vanessea Hudgens... Sakura's point of view
-"I Like the Way it Hurts"( Rhinna n Emenm).... Sakura and Saskue's point of view


(feel free to add on to list)

[WishfulFairie]

SasuSaku
Criminal by Brittany Spears

Criminal by Fiona Apple for the NaruSaku shippers (if you listen to the song it's talking about a girl breaking a guy's heart)

[Narutorious]

Y'all just destroying Sakura for her faults but Hinata's faults are ok to y'all? Who's talks about getting with someone while there is a war going on? That's selfishness & obsession, it's things like that why I lost interest in shipping, personally I hope neither would happen, it'll actually help Hinata's character if she doesn't get with Naruto, she shouldn't be just about Naruto.

[PrinceofPeace]

WOW o WOW!!! Now she is selfish!

Yeah it was really selfish for her to jump in the way to save Naruto from Nagato
IT was selfish to try and help out naruto during the exams
It was selfish when she wanted to give Neji a break from using the bykugan
It was selfish when she told naruto that she could not go join his mission to save Saskue cuz she had other stuff (or kiba said it but Hinata went along with it)
.

Obsssesd... kinda.... just like Sakura is obssesd with Saskue and Saskue is obssesed with REVENGE and Naruto is obssesed with being Hokage

Their obsseisions are like goals

For every "fault" Hinata has I will match it with 3 of Sakura's faults

[Narutorious]

I didn't say that Hinata's selfish, what I said is that was a selfish & obsessive thought that she was having back at chapter 573 I believe it was, providing that both characters have flaws. Of course Sakura's flaws are more easily spotted, that's by design, forget the fact that she's a main character while Hinata is a supporting character so Sakura is on-screen much more, her character is meant to emotionally & mentally get stronger, to learn from her faults, as stated by Kishimoto, she's the most realistic character in the manga, but I can easily tell you unselfish things that Sakura has done, but you'll ignore it because you want Hinata to look far better. I wouldn't say Sakura is currently obsessed with being with Sasuke either, in part 1 obviously she was, but she has never mention Sasuke romantically in part 2, whether she has feelings for Sasuke or not is another issue, but the fact that Sakura's feelings has been questioned by many fans means it isn't an obsession, truthfully Naruto is more obsessed with Sasuke than Sakura is.

[Sagittarius]

Originally Posted by PrinceofPeace

EXCUSE ME!! Yes A bigg part of Hinata is her love for Naruto but there is soo much more
-her perssure to be her heir successor It doesn't seem to currently be an issue and she's never be shown to even think about it
-finding enemies in the war
-her love for her comrades (how she complimented Shino and cared for Kiba/Akamaru) When did she do this?
-training with Neji I don't recall any mention of her training with Neji

Originally Posted by PrinceofPeace

They were talking about Hinata's inner monologue in the war, about holding Naruto's hand.
Yeah it was really selfish for her to jump in the way to save Naruto from Nagato
She was selfish that she felt the need to confess her feelings because she didn't think she'd ever get the chance. She was selfish that she didn't need to confess and in doing so, if she had of died, Naruto would have felt guilty.
It was selfish when she wanted to give Neji a break from using the bykugan
No, Neji was tired. Her eyes were needed and she was grateful for the opportunityto work hard to help Naruto.
It was selfish when she told naruto that she could not go join his mission to save Saskue cuz she had other stuff (or kiba said it but Hinata went along with it)
Wait...when was this?


For every "fault" Hinata has I will match it with 3 of Sakura's faults

Pointing out faults of another character/pairing, shifting the attention to someone/thing else does not change what faults Hinata/NaruHina has. Deal with the accusations against what you like with facts and not some bull "Well, Sakura's worse..."