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Old 11-25-2012, 09:39 PM   #121
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I get what you are trying to say, but the simple fact of the matter is that no one other than Madara and Hashirama had to power to take control to the tailed beast back then. no one even tried, it was wrong of Hashirama to seal them all away like that because they weren't even bothering anyone, he took away their freedom and caused them to hate everyone.
The Kumo village were very aggressive about the bijju. They had a team ready to tame the Habchi and a tool from the SO6P to seal it. Hashairam gave it to them but they could have taken a bijju and tamed it if need be.Hashashirama had good intentions so I do not really see it as a fault. At least he tried. He made momentary peace with multiple people. Sooner or later someone would have tamed the bijju for evil

Peace is great, but not at the cost of someone else's freedom that's just wrong and he didn't even try to understand them which was the worst part to me.
True but they had no way of underestaiming them. Hashiaram put the human race first. Just like we do with other animals

As for the Hiruzen plan I'll get back to you on that I don't remember the chapter, but it was flashback chapter, it was either Naruto's flashback Kakashi's, or Iruka's I can't remember at the moment but I'll find it.
I'll try and look aswell

Also Minato has it worse because Kurama was summoned right in the middle of the village so the vllage had no choice, but to help, this was not the case with Hashirama. Hashirama was not distracted with keeping his wife's seal in check while she was giving birth, his child was not put in danger to distract him. He and Madara were fighting miles away from the village so he had no distractions and nothing to worry about.
Minato is partially blamed for the attack on the leaf. If he was with his team or prepared them better or gave them more comrades then Rin would be alive and Obito would not be evil.
If Minato was a good sensi/hokage then the attack would not happen
Hashiaram could have intercepted him before he got to the village.
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Old 11-26-2012, 01:27 AM   #122
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Minato is partially blamed for the attack on the leaf. If he was with his team or prepared them better or gave them more comrades then Rin would be alive and Obito would not be evil.
If Minato was a good sensi/hokage then the attack would not happen
Hashiaram could have intercepted him before he got to the village.
I believe it may have been a Kakashi flashback now that I think about it because I Hiruzen explained his plan to Kakashi, I remember that much every clearly.

However, we can't really say much about Minato on Rin's death because we don't know what happened they have had more comrades, but they were killed and maybe Minato was in a very pressing battle at the time and couldn't get to them. They need to tell us more about what happened first which I think they will since it's been brought up only this time we'll see it from Kakashi's POV.
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I believe it may have been a Kakashi flashback now that I think about it because I Hiruzen explained his plan to Kakashi, I remember that much every clearly.
idk I did not find it in Hiruzen's bio. Are you sure this happenhed lol?
However, we can't really say much about Minato on Rin's death because we don't know what happened they have had more comrades, but they were killed and maybe Minato was in a very pressing battle at the time and couldn't get to them. They need to tell us more about what happened first which I think they will since it's been brought up only this time we'll see it from Kakashi's POV.
from what we know now Minato failed to save his teammates
besides this is the strongest hokage and by hype Hiruzen is the best but by feats Hashirama takes this
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The 1st is the strongest.
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besides this is the strongest hokage and by hype Hiruzen is the best but by feats Hashirama takes this
Yes it was a Kakashi flashback, I don't know why he was thinking about it, but when he sent all the ninja to go find Naruto Kakashi stayed for a little while and said something like "There's no way that someone like Naruto could just walk in and steal the scroll of sealing all on his own" and Hiruzen said something like "you are correct, Naruto could never steal the scroll of sealing all on his own, that is why I let him do it" and then you know Kakashi went on about why didn't under stand and Hiruzen said that Naruto would never have come up with this all on his own and that more than likely he was being deceived by someone, but he needed it to look good so he asked Kakashi to play along by making it seem like they were actually worried about Naruto stealing the scroll.

I don't know what Hiruzen Bio you're looking at, but it should be there, I forget why Kakashi was thinking about it, one of my friends suggested that it might have been around the time that Asuma died, but I believe it was somewhere in the war arc.
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Lol okay.... Can I still have a chp please I do not know where you are getting this. You are not talking about an anime/filler are you?
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Lol okay.... Can I still have a chp please I do not know where you are getting this. You are not talking about an anime/filler are you?
No I'm not talking about a filler, I'm trying to remember where in the manga it was so that I don't have to search through 1000 pages to find it, the more think about it the more I remember, but I can't remember why Kakashi was thinking about it which is the problem. If I could remember why he was thinking about I would know which part of the manga to look at and find it a lot faster because at this point with what I remember I'm basically just guessing which will have me looking through his Manga for days.

Do you remember anything that would have made Kakashi think about the day that Naruto stole the scroll of sealing?
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No I'm not talking about a filler, I'm trying to remember where in the manga it was so that I don't have to search through 1000 pages to find it, the more think about it the more I remember, but I can't remember why Kakashi was thinking about it which is the problem. If I could remember why he was thinking about I would know which part of the manga to look at and find it a lot faster because at this point with what I remember I'm basically just guessing which will have me looking through his Manga for days.

Do you remember anything that would have made Kakashi think about the day that Naruto stole the scroll of sealing?
I think it might have been around the time that he was supposed be picked for Hokage or the close to where they are now when he was thinking back on the past.
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No I'm not talking about a filler, I'm trying to remember where in the manga it was so that I don't have to search through 1000 pages to find it, the more think about it the more I remember, but I can't remember why Kakashi was thinking about it which is the problem. If I could remember why he was thinking about I would know which part of the manga to look at and find it a lot faster because at this point with what I remember I'm basically just guessing which will have me looking through his Manga for days.

Do you remember anything that would have made Kakashi think about the day that Naruto stole the scroll of sealing?
*shrugs*
idk I am still looking cuz I do not remeber this at all
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idk I am still looking cuz I do not remeber this at all
I remember it happening, but I can't help on the when because as you know I've never been really good at that. If you ask me you'll be searching the entire manga because I can remember events, but I can rarely remember the chapters.
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I needz proofs

Either way it does not matter cuz this is about strongest hokage
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Either way it does not matter cuz this is about strongest hokage
She'll find it, she usually does.

Anyway........If we are talking about the strongest in power then Hashirama, but we've already been through who I think it the best.
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Obivilously is the Shodamie Hokage. He even dare to make Maadra retreat!!!!
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Really? so you're really going to try and tell me that I think Hashirama is the best? well I was hoping it wouldn't have to come to this, but it seems as if you've left me no choice.

*coughs* let me clear my throat for this one *stands and the podium and straightens a stack of papers then taps the microphone*

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Hashirama would more than likely own Tobirama in a fight.
I'd say Minato is the closest competition but even then, they don't make hokage like they used to.
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Really? so you're really going to try and tell me that I think Hashirama is the best? well I was hoping it wouldn't have to come to this, but it seems as if you've left me no choice.

*coughs* let me clear my throat for this one *stands and the podium and straightens a stack of papers then taps the microphone*

Tobirama is the best.........that is all
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Even in your fairy tale land where you think Tobirama is the best Hokage he certanily is not the strongest

Tobirama is the WEAKEST... he has like 2 on cannon moves at best.

Which are easily countered with Advent of Following Trees
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From what I've seen in the series, Hashirama is the strongest.
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Hiruzen---Hashirama

Hashirama---Hiruzen

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