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Old 10-18-2012, 03:00 PM   #21
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Saskue nearly solo's this match!

(can i get a descritption of the location??? Please)

At best Juugo will go CS1! There is not enough bloodlust and danger for Juugo to be to angey

Juugo and Sugetisu would be able to take out Dauri and Saskue takes out Kakashi.

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Dauri vs Juugo n Sugeitsu

Saskue would want to take on his sensi 1v1 so he would sen the others to finish off the other guy.

Dauri does not know of Sugeitsu's water ability (... well at least to its full extent)
If Dauri uses water style than it would be dangerous. We have seen Sugeitsu survive a water + lighitng combo but it would still damage Sugietsu!

Laser circus is his only way of winning. He can control the lighting to hit his foes without fail.

It would be hard for dauri to keep up with Juugo with rockboosters! Sugeitsu would be able to get at least one good storm release hit on Juugo and Sugeitu. Sugietsu would easily fall to this jutsu but Juugo has amazing stamina to keep fighting. Dauri would not be able to spam storm/lighting release. Unlike Dauri Juugo does not need hand signs to activate a jutsu. Dauri can attack by using jet boosters and combing his strenght to K.O Dauri.

Even if Dauri survived the tag-team he would not be in good shap. Saskue would easily kill Dauri with a Susanoo arrow or genjtusu or Saskue would just smash Dauri with Susanoo!

Let's not forget that Juugo will go to the EXTREME"S for Saskue! So he would fight to the best of his abilities

FYI- If Juugo and Sugitsu get into a close-range battle with Sugietsu Dauri has no chance!

Juugo and Sugitsu win
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Saskue vs Kakashi

Without Kaumi Kakashi can not do much. Saskue would easily activate Susanoo at the start. Kakashi barely survived the Susanoo arrow by using Kaumi.... if Kakashi can not kaumi now how would he stop the arrow at that speed without Kaumi?

Kakashi would always be on the defensive. Saskue can summon his hawk and soar into the air and attack from there.

Saskue has shown better genjutsu and fire style feats than Kakashi as well.

Kakashi can not get past Susanooo... so Saskue wins
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Not sure why I made a thread where Kakashi can't protect himself from arrows
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oh no wonder I saw a post by TheBlackChdori lol
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This comes down to Darui in a straight up fight. If Darui can defeat Suigetsu and Juugo fast enough to help Kakashi he can win but since I don't see how he can do that looks like Team Taka wins a majority of the time, but if I had to advocate for Kakashi and Darui (since I like them way more)...

The best strategy I can come up with is Kakashi uses Hidden Mist then tells Darui to stay close by. Then from the shadows he uses his smell to find the Taka team members and has Darui fire off guided Ranton bullets into their blindspots. After he downs Suigetsu and Juugo. They can go after Sasuke.

This is a strategy I don't see Team Taka countering. The only one on Taka's side that can match Kakashi and Darui's intellects is Sasuke but he doesn't have their experience. Kakashi was in ANBU as we all know and is a master of guerilla tactics while I'm sure Darui has done the equivalent in Kumo given his elite status as a Kage bodyguard and captain of a division.

After Suigetsu and Juugo go down, wearing down Sasuke's Susano'o really won't be that hard. Both Kakashi and Darui can use Suiton and Raiton. In a large scale combination that can do some damage not to mention Darui and now recently Kakashi can both focus lightning through their weapons for powerful projectiles. Kakashi's kunai cut cleanly through boulders a few chapters ago and Darui's can do the same. Sasuke can't take that kind of punishment forever.
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Sugietsu was from the mist and had connections to the swordsman so he should be able to see through the mist

Juugo can talk to nearby animals to try and find enemy or he extends his arm in their direction
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Sugietsu was from the mist and had connections to the swordsman so he should be able to see through the mist

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I had a feeling you would counter with something like this. Suigetsu has demonstrated no knowledge of fighting inside the mist or with comrades who use mist, for all we know Oro could've kidnapped him before he had time to work on it so you can't state that with certainty. As for Juugo how many animals will he be able to find when he can't see 3 feet in front of him and how many animals will come to him with Ranton bullets flying all over the battlefield. Unless you're suggesting he screams to ask the nearby animals for help and makes himself a giant target by giving away his position.
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1-Sugeitsu turns into puddle to get out of the line of fire
2-Juugo uses rock boosters to get out of the way (soars into the air)
3-Saskue uses Susanoo and Grabs them both and protects them

Also How does Kakashi smell them when he does not have their scent? Kakashi has never met Sugeitsu nor Juugo. Kakashi needs to aquire their scent before he has it
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1-Sugeitsu turns into puddle to get out of the line of fire
2-Juugo uses rock boosters to get out of the way (soars into the air)
3-Saskue uses Susanoo and Grabs them both and protects them

Also How does Kakashi smell them when he does not have their scent? Kakashi has never met Sugeitsu nor Juugo. Kakashi needs to aquire their scent before he has it
So Juugo can fly now? When has Suigetsu ever turned himself into a puddle willingly? And there are only five people on the battlefield he only has three scents to follow (excluding Darui's), the only reason Kiba, Akamaru, and Kakashi's dogs needed to get a sample for the smell is because they were tracking Taka from miles away across a forest and town with thousands of people.
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With jet boosters and a jump Juugo would be in the air. I said he would soar but flying is a stretch. more like hovering for a bit.

Why wouldn't Sugeitsu willingly turn himself into a puddle? It is his best choice to be safe. Sugietus can cut himself with the sword

Has Kakashi every shown the ability to immeditaly have the scent of his foe that he never met before?

Also with 2min prpe SUgieutsu can get the scroll to summon Manda
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They can't summon Manda. He's dead. We've been over this

Jugo can boost himself if he wants but is only gonna get shot down, or eventually fall into the mist again

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I just wanted to compliment you on the good strategy you came up with JLI2 (although it hinges on the Hidden Mist technique which is anime only for Kakashi). I feel like this is the 3rd or 4th time I wanted to rep you, but couldn't because I rarely rep people and we have to rep 20 people before we can rep the same person again Once I even wanted to neg rep someone for the first time, but couldn't because I (pos.) repped them a month ago!!

Rep rant aside, I think Kakashi and Darui can take this, the only counter I can think of to JLI2's strategy off the top of my head is if Sasuke starts shooting fireballs into the air while camping in Susano'o and then uses Kirin. Of course, we don't know how much chakra/heat it would take Sasuke to prep Kirin, especially while maintaining Susano'o and Kakashi and Darui are both Raiton users so they may come up with a way to channel the energy of Kirin/mitigate the damage somehow if they know it's coming.
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I just wanted to compliment you on the good strategy you came up with JLI2 (although it hinges on the Hidden Mist technique which is anime only for Kakashi). I feel like this is the 3rd or 4th time I wanted to rep you, but couldn't because I rarely rep people and we have to rep 20 people before we can rep the same person again Once I even wanted to neg rep someone for the first time, but couldn't because I (pos.) repped them a month ago!!

Rep rant aside, I think Kakashi and Darui can take this, the only counter I can think of to JLI2's strategy off the top of my head is if Sasuke starts shooting fireballs into the air while camping in Susano'o and then uses Kirin. Of course, we don't know how much chakra/heat it would take Sasuke to prep Kirin, especially while maintaining Susano'o and Kakashi and Darui are both Raiton users so they may come up with a way to channel the energy of Kirin/mitigate the damage somehow if they know it's coming.
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I do not see how Kakashi would have their scents at the start of the match. (maybe Saskue's but not the others)

It would be weird if Sugeitsu can not fight thourgh the mist very well but I agree with your point



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If Kakashi looses his Kamui, then why does Sasuke get to keep Susano? I would think Kakashi could handle Sasuke useing Amaterasu. Giving Sasuke-Susano auto wins. Darui could probably take Suigetsu and Jugo by himself. Kakashi stands a damn good chance of killing Sasuke with out his Susano.
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Well we can not mess with the OP so.... how do you think Dauri takes on the 3 ninja when Sugietsu was giving him a run for his money
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@Prince: Suigetsu wasn't "giving Darui a run for his money". Darui shut him down in about one minute without using any of his best techniques.

Kakashi also doesn't need the scents of the people before hand, he can smell them at the beginning of the battle. As JLI2 already explained he only has to keep track of three opponents who are close by and there aren't lots of interfering scents.
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Up another Kamui restrict. This ends with Tsukiyomi.
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