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Old 11-19-2012, 05:11 PM   #21
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^ Same here, tough choice--I think I'll withhold my vote until I see more votes
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2013 seems to have few old cartoons returning.

Xiaolin chronicles and Teen Titans although the latter is supposed to be less serious.
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To note: The sword of the nebula's wind power feats would make any attack omi has pretty useless.
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At the same time though, Raimundo has a lot of knowledge on Omi's fighting style, which is easily defined as "straightforward" by every means of the word.

Raimundo, on the other hand, is a much more flowing style akin to his element, and to that note much more unpredictable as well.
Omi is easily faster than Raimundo so there is no need for feints or an unorthodox fighting style. In a straight up fight with no outside interference Omi would come out the winner. Also this is not a showdown so the fight won't end in some weak trick to get the object. He has been shown to be the better fighter consistently throughout the series. Raimundo only had been shown to be the more mature leader. Which is plot.
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Omi is easily faster than Raimundo so there is no need for feints or an unorthodox fighting style. In a straight up fight with no outside interference Omi would come out the winner. Also this is not a showdown so the fight won't end in some weak trick to get the object. He has been shown to be the better fighter consistently throughout the series. Raimundo only had been shown to be the more mature leader. Which is plot.
Large gusts of wind = lockdown on fighting styles.

A lot of Omi's fighting ability comes from his ability to maneuver and strike at a variety of points. With the amount of gust that will be going at him, he will lose out of his ability to do any jumping strikes or anything that doesn't let him remain grounded and balanced.

Meanwhile, Raimundo is not only unaffected by the winds, but he can use them to further increase his speed and power behind the strikes via tailwind effects. Oh, and also Raimundo has shown the ability to fly.
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Large gusts of wind = lockdown on fighting styles.

A lot of Omi's fighting ability comes from his ability to maneuver and strike at a variety of points. With the amount of gust that will be going at him, he will lose out of his ability to do any jumping strikes or anything that doesn't let him remain grounded and balanced.

Meanwhile, Raimundo is not only unaffected by the winds, but he can use them to further increase his speed and power behind the strikes via tailwind effects. Oh, and also Raimundo has shown the ability to fly.
Omi has been shown consistently throughout the series to be able to casually invade his opponents zone no matter what artifact they wield. Not only that large gust of wind hardly matter against high pressure water strikes. Which is faster than his wind. Speaking of which he has used his water as shield multiple times. In the end it will come down to martial arts Omi has the clear advantage there. Which should be obvious and also the reason people say what the hell at Raimundo becoming the leader.
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Omi has been shown consistently throughout the series to be able to casually invade his opponents zone no matter what artifact they wield. Not only that large gust of wind hardly matter against high pressure water strikes. Which is faster than his wind. Speaking of which he has used his water as shield multiple times. In the end it will come down to martial arts Omi has the clear advantage there. Which should be obvious and also the reason people say what the hell at Raimundo becoming the leader.
Except he doesn't have orb.
He has the shape shifting staff. The shield wouldn't do him any good against the wind.

Oh, and mind you, the water may be powerful but its easily evaded. Especially by a flying opponent.

So how do you propose Omi hits someone in the air with hurricane wind gusts blasting him at all times?
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Except he doesn't have orb.
He has the shape shifting staff. The shield wouldn't do him any good against the wind.

Oh, and mind you, the water may be powerful but its easily evaded. Especially by a flying opponent.

So how do you propose Omi hits someone in the air with hurricane wind gusts blasting him at all times?
Except Raimundo doesn't stay in the air. Nor is he really that fast in the air. Nevermind Omi's agility and evasive skills would allow him to avoid Raimundos attacks. Also pretty sure that staff extends Goku style. Long range capabilities. Besides that point those gusts of wind were avoidable. Many people have.
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Except Raimundo doesn't stay in the air. Nor is he really that fast in the air. Nevermind Omi's agility and evasive skills would allow him to avoid Raimundos attacks. Also pretty sure that staff extends Goku style. Long range capabilities. Besides that point those gusts of wind were avoidable. Many people have.
He's shown to be fully able to fly, I don't see how a constant updraft would be out of his control.

Omi's evasiveness isn't largely ground-based.
Show proof of its reach?

Gusts of winds with an AoE like he can poop out aren't avoidable.
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Except Raimundo doesn't stay in the air. Nor is he really that fast in the air. Nevermind Omi's agility and evasive skills would allow him to avoid Raimundos attacks. Also pretty sure that staff extends Goku style. Long range capabilities. Besides that point those gusts of wind were avoidable. Many people have.
^Pretty much this. Not to mention as I stated before Omi can also use water to maneuver himself through the air.

The only thing that keeps Rai afloat in this thread are his high end feats late in the series like soloing Chase, Monk Guan, Hannibal Bean, and Wuya to give Omi the opening in the final showdown. Because of plot devices that's probably the best feat of the series but the point is that's an outlier. Omi's casual feats destroy Rai's.

Notice what happened when both characters turned evil. Rai didn't even try to fight Omi, instead he ran away using Serpent's Tail (the only real defense to this point is to say that it was earlier in the series so they didn't have all their powers yet because that's a blatant sign of fear). Whereas Omi dismantled the team, and he did it all without shen gong wu.

Another thing, Omi's water isn't "easily evaded" with the Kajin charm he was bending the water into shapes like DNA, his control is extremely fine tuned.
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He's shown to be fully able to fly, I don't see how a constant updraft would be out of his control.

Omi's evasiveness isn't largely ground-based.
Show proof of its reach?

Gusts of winds with an AoE like he can poop out aren't avoidable.
One you are thinking of the other sword. Just looked it up. Not only that he needs a combination of weapons to use his abilities including flight. So like how Omi doesn't have his orb Ray is also out of luck.
http://xiaolinshowdown.wikia.com/wik...d_of_the_Storm

Next up proof on the capabilities of the staff. He needs another artifact to make it super long. But it doesn't matter wince Ray can't fly here. http://xiaolinshowdown.wikia.com/wiki/Shimo_Staff

Ray Aoe is crap without the needed weapons. Same as Omi meaning this comes down to a close range fight.
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One you are thinking of the other sword. Just looked it up. Not only that he needs a combination of weapons to use his abilities including flight. So like how Omi doesn't have his orb Ray is also out of luck.
http://xiaolinshowdown.wikia.com/wik...d_of_the_Storm

Next up proof on the capabilities of the staff. He needs another artifact to make it super long. But it doesn't matter wince Ray can't fly here. http://xiaolinshowdown.wikia.com/wiki/Shimo_Staff

Ray Aoe is crap without the needed weapons. Same as Omi meaning this comes down to a close range fight.
You're a little mistaken here.

1) Rai learns to fly without sword of the storm later in the series by his wudai powers alone kind of like Omi learns how to summon water without the orb.

2) Omi has the Kajin Charm, I gave it to him in the OP, so yeah he has no limitations to his capabilities with the Shimo Staff.
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