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BMC- PTS Garra, Base Naruto, Sai

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Imma just kick this off and say that gaara grind all minerals in the earth to sand while sai flys out of the range for demonic flute(with naruto and gaara offcourse then gaara does a giant desert funeral ending with 'sabaku taisou!!!')

Since gaara has sand in his gourd and can fight while grinding the sand gaaras absolute defense will protect from any air palms and laser circusses.

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Forgot they need to find the other team. Regardless off that my team will off course scout the skys together on sais ink bird like has been seen a dozen of times now. Gaara also has his sand eye thingy for better scouting.

Off course neji will see my team coming from like (what was it like 800m?) but at that point gaara will have grinded enough sand to suprise with the giant desert funeral before tayuya gets demonic flute out.

Even if not naruto can stall for time for the giant desert funeral with his idk how many clones. Which will succeed because they dont really have attacks which could take out many clones at the same time.

For now sai just chills on the birds.

summary: grind the sand while searching. Distract with clones to prevent getting insta demonic fluted (while my team with the real naruto would be in the air outside of its range), when sand is gridned swoop in > giant desert funeral> sabaku taisou GG.
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Before I get into this, how much knowledge do they have?
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the rules say no knowledge, so teams enter FoD just knowing there is another 3 man team
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Ok thanks.

First off, the forest of death has 10km wide diameter. That's 10k meters. Neji has a 200m diameter byakugan range. Now PTS Gaara simply doesn't have the power or feats to sink 10km of forest. Maybe with Shukaku, but if he can use Shukaku then we have a problem here

So, a forest is the perfect field for Tayuya. She doesn't even have to know where the enemy is to catch them in her jutsu.

The team travels through the trees, with Neji searching for the enemy. At one point or another Neji will find them. Tayuya uses her genjutsu, they're caught. At that point Darui and Neji close in and take them out. There is a chance that Gaara's sand protects him though. But Darui has his lightning sword, shadow clones, and other jutsu perfectly capable of doing the job.

Neji outclasses Base Naruto, his FRS is completely OoC without sage mode or RM. Neji can still beat him down the same way as he did back in the chuunin exams. Not that any of this is necessary due to Tayuyas genjutsu.

Daruis Laser Circus is good for taking out all of those individual targets too, also his inspiration+water wall combo.

Gaara is the biggest threat, but Tayuyas got them paralyzed.


And the beauty of Neji's byakugan is that they can avoid anything and position themselves in the perfect position to strike. Neji can see his sand eye, any clones, any of sais animals, sand moving on the ground.. They got this locked down.
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Ill give a more elaborate reply later but wouldnt demonic flute also effect your team i mean sound affects everyone not just specefic targets it has never been used with an ally around just when the user was alone.
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I assumed she could control who it affects.

Even if it doesn't work like that, she can just break them out right after.
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I never said that gaara can cover 10 KM of forest i am saying that he grinds a amount of sand comparable to the amount what he grinded against kimimaro and uses a sand tsunami of roughly the same size to bury your team. And eventually crush if that wasnt enough.

-Technicly he can use shukaku by inducing sleep or knocking himself out.

Tayuyas flute is nowwhere near a whole forest range otherwise the others of the sasuke retrieval team and the sound 5 would be caught in it.

Neji does not outclass a few dozen if not the hundreds of clones he can make especiaslly while each pair comes at him with odama rasengans. As i said close combat wont be taking place because my team will be chilling on the birds under gaaras protection making two of your charaacters effectively useless. Or naruto will send a few clones to distract them anyway the real naruto wont be there. He used his rasengan right off the bat when he first created in it anyway in this competion they are bloodlusted which obliterates your whole plan as your team will get blasted by rasenshurikens.

Again buried under the grinded sand which was made while looking for your team. Regard;ess of what neji sees the range of gaaras giant sand tsunami is way too large for any of them too dodge.

On to the only one who can acutally do anything : tayuya.
She has lost before to large scale attacks like temari so gaara should produce a familiar effect of burying her under trees/sand before she can use the flute. Also sai can draw his explosive birds from outside neji byakugan range to defeat her.

If tayuyas caps her own team under her genjutsu they will be at the mercy of saids animals will offcourse will massacre , or hevaily injure all 3 of them before she can break them out.
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On to the only one who can acutally do anything : tayuya.
She has lost before to large scale attacks like temari so gaara should produce a familiar effect of burying her under trees/sand before she can use the flute. Also sai can draw his explosive birds from outside neji byakugan range to defeat her.

If tayuyas caps her own team under her genjutsu they will be at the mercy of saids animals will offcourse will massacre , or hevaily injure all 3 of them before she can break them out.
Temari's wind attacks were effective only because not only were they long range attacks but they defended against the sound due to the large amount of wind sound coming from the attack. So it attacked and defended at the same time. Not to mention Wind is a lot faster then sand backed up by the fact the Third Raikage couldin't dodge Temari's wind net.

Sai's Birds would have to get in close at some point or they are completely useless if they are planned to be used as an attack. Once they get close Neji air palms them away while warning his teammates.

Tayuya can summon her Doki and control them with her flute. She uses 2 of them to take care of her teammates after they get caught in her genjutsu while the last one defends her from wild animals.

Or she could just catch the wild animals in her genjutsu since animals should also be affected by that sort of thing.
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I'm thinkin BMC gotz this!

His team would locate the others first
Sai is ANBU and should be able to break out of genjutsu
PTS Garra might activate a bijju under genjutsu. Afterall he suffered way more traumatic drama
Naruto knows how to get out and Gama can help out

neji can not hit Sai on ink bird
Dauri neither ,,,, or it would at least take a while

Tayauya is a major set back.

Shukku and Gama stomp! Seriously how do you stop that
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His team would locate the others first
Neji Would locate them before they get too close, thats all the team needs
Sai is ANBU and should be able to break out of genjutsu
Sai was Anbu Root, Itachi was a full fledged Anbu but needed Sasuke to break him out of Tayuya's genjutsu via sharingan. So did Sasuke.
PTS Garra might activate a bijju under genjutsu. Afterall he suffered way more traumatic drama
The only way Gaara knew how to bring out Shukaku during Part 1 canonically was via induced sleep.
Naruto knows how to get out and Gama can help out
He gets caught again, if Neji doesin't knock him out before then.

neji can not hit Sai on ink bird
Dauri neither ,,,, or it would at least take a while
The opposite is true as well if Sai stays on his bird forever.

Shukku and Gama stomp! Seriously how do you stop that
Shukaku can be a threat, if Gaara is able to use his induced sleep technique under genjutsu, which he can't. Gamabunta Can be a threat if Naruto summons him before getting caught in a genjutsu, which he can't since you know......hes not faster then sound?
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Gaara and Naruto have access to their beats? The hell?

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The distance is too far for them to get caught in sound at the start. It is Bloodlusted so Naruto and Garra can summon larger forms to cover more ground and attack
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I never said they'd get caught at the start. They'd travel around with Neji seeking them out. Once they find BMCs team (Not confronting them) they get in range for Tayuyas jutsu and she catches them in it.

Before i even get to Gaara's sand, how is he supposed to find my team? Is he gonna sand tsunami in random directions? Neji can see anything in a 200m radius. He'll know when BMCs team is close by, but they won't know where my team is. He can see Sai on his bird, Gaara on the ground, Gaara's sand eye flying around, everything. He can guide my team out of harms way in order to catch the enemy off guard.

Animals would get caught in the genjutsu.. A tailed beast would be caught too as it hears the noise unlike other genjutsu when they are casted on the specific person. If my team gets caught, Tayuyas breaks them out immediately. Not that hard.

Sai has shown zero genjutsu resistance, being an Anbu isn't good enough a reason as even Danzo was falling for Sasukes genjutsu iirc.

Gama would be caught in the genjutsu too but Naruto and Gaara having access to Shukaku and Gama is pretty... Broke
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You do know that searching from the sky is way more effective then a ground search on top of that sai has snakes , rats and brids at his command to also do some searching in addition to gaaras eye the delay between my team finding yours will not be that significant.

From that point gaara has gathered the sand and sand tsunamis your team simply because 200m should be well within that giant sand tsunamis range.

Animals? I was talking about sais ink animals i doubt they would get caught in genjutsu due to a lack of a chakra flow to disrupt. Hence tayuya gets mauled by ink or her partners before tayuya breaks the out. Because the ink animals can moves independantly of sai even when hes under a genjutsu. On top of that sai could apply shikas technique and use one of his ink snakes/birds to break him out with psysical pain. (Shikas also managed to pull off shadow strangle WHILE in her genjutsu). Hence my team can stil use jutsu while under effect of the demonic flute. Anyway sai uses his animals to break the others other too by having them bite his teammates everyone breaks out.

Rasenshurikens for breakfast. GG. Or the preparedsand tsunami which gaara still can do.

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^ The Jutsu has to be active already for it to be used while being affected by Tayuya's genjutsu. IIRC Shikamaru already had Shadow Strangle active before being caught, same with Itachi and Sasuke's Sharingans.

Meaning the only way to break out would be Sai's ink animals and nothing else.
Those same ink animals would have to stop keeping track of the enemies to save Sai and his teammates.

They lose track of them and have to search for them again, while Uchiha Sora's team already knows where the enemy is.
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Just gonna throw this out there-it's been theorized that Gaara is immune to many genjutsu due to his sand. I don't think the sand could disturb his chakra but it could snap a finger or something (which is how Shikamaru escaped Tayuya's genjutsu). Of course this goes into whether or not his mom's will to protect him goes further than an auto-defense mechanism to block attacks. The only time we've seen Gaara under a genjutsu is the 2nd Miz's and that one there is no point in breaking out since it's environmental the genjutsu just keeps reestablishing itself. There's also the other point that no one on Uchiha Sora's team besides maybe Darui have enough power to break through PTS Gaara's defenses anyway which will still be active whether he's under a genjutsu or not.
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Tayuya also has her Ghost jutsu that are essentially intangible, GK. they go right through Gaara's sand. he'll thinks his sand is enough to block them, but they go right through and eat up his energy. No chakra for tsunami, or anything really. And now that Tayuya has Neji to locate them for her, they can't run.

And Gaara's mom can't protect him if he's out of chakra, other wise she would have saved him from Deidara.

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Tayuya also has her Ghost jutsu that are essentially intangible, GK. they go right through Gaara's sand. he'll thinks his sand is enough to block them, but they go right through and eat up his energy. No chakra for tsunami, or anything really. And now that Tayuya has Neji to locate them for her, they can't run.

And Gaara's mom can't protect him if he's out of chakra, other wise she would have saved him from Deidara.

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Good points, I was thinking about the Deidara fight right after I typed my post and was wondering why the sand did nothing to protect him after he protected the village and that makes the most sense. I still doubt that the Ghost Jutsu would be able to eat up all of his chakra in one go considering the reserves he has (even w/out Shukaku) and this is assuming that she targets him first instead of the other two. Well argued though, I'd give you rep if I could.
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Intresting. Although i read on wiki that they are made out of chakra, well y'know its wiki.

I doubt those ghosts will be able to eat all energy anyway since pts gaara still has the shukaku. Meaning a large extra reserve of chakra.

Gaara didnt run out of chakra vs deidara. Deidara played it smart and planted mini bombs within the sand that was supposed to protect gaara.

@sage Sai usually has some rats or snakes around him. Could easily break him out.

And since the head seems to retain its movements wouldnt my team biting their lips obliterate the genjutsu . Atleast sai because of his anbu training and naruto because of his whole genjutsu 101 with jiraiya should know of this.
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