Aizen Sosuke vs Yamamoto

[joon61]

Both are bloodlusted
Location: Fake Karakura Town.
Who wins?

[Nigoyukai]

Starting distance and starting states?

If they're both in base form: Then Yama wins. Anything stronger for Yama and he rolls Aizen over.
If Aizen has Shikai on and is bloodlusted, then he wins by taking the smart way of stabbing someone who's more powerful than him in the heart or beheading him.

[joon61]

Aizen starts in his captain form.
Both are in character.

[Souret]

Well if Aizen used his hipnosis thing he would probably win but if yama made the first move he'd almost definatly win.

[BMC1994]

^Yamamoto can track aizen even while under complete hypnosis. He only has to grab him and its GG.
And thats pretty much what he did during the war.

Yamamoto already gave him trouble in his condom form and that was without his zanpaktou.

Aizens toast. Not to mention yamas bankai.

[Souret]

But in the fake karukura town it wasn't yamamoto who actually hurt Aizen Shinji was the first one to actually get a scratch on him.

[megabbaut]

^Wasn't that Momo in Kyoka Suigetsu?

I'd say let's wait for Aizen to display some new feats since he's starting come back in the manga.

[BMC1994]

Originally Posted by Souret

But in the fake karukura town it wasn't yamamoto who actually hurt Aizen Shinji was the first one to actually get a scratch on him.

Do you remember hadou #80/90 something Ittakaso? And thats just his hadou not mentioning his hand to hand combat which solod an arrancar who one hitted ukitake. Not mentioning his shikai which casually took on 2 elder captains kyoraku and ukitake. Not mentioning his Bankai which contains attacks and armor of 15000000 something degrees and an undead army of all the people he has slain which is the bleach equivalent of edo tensei. Not mentioning potential other hadous he had.
Captain form aizen would be ****** against him.

Originally Posted by megabbaut

^Wasn't that Momo in Kyoka Suigetsu?

I'd say let's wait for Aizen to display some new feats since he's starting come back in the manga.

Yup it probably was.

[Souret]

how come he never used the army of the dead against Aizen the first time if it would actually work wouldn't he have used it rather than rely on Ichigo

[Sagepain]

^ The very first time, no one thought he was gonna be so powerful that he can solo captain class shinigami's effortlessly, and then Menos Grande came and used Negacion to protect Aizen from attacks while moving him to Hueco Mundo.

The Second Time, Aizen used Wonderweiss to absorb Yamamoto's zanpakuto abilities which is why he had to resort to hand to hand combat.

Its not that he decided not to use his Bankai its that he couldn't use his Bankai.

[Souret]

So basically Aizen can't win without his subordinates to back him up?

[Sagepain]

^ Yeah, Aizen Can't win without his suborninates backing him up.

Without Wonderweiss at Aizen's side Yamamoto can activate his Bankai and destroy Aizen.

Even Aizen stated that he wouldin't be able to win against Yamamoto without first sealing the source of his powers.

Of course with Kyoka Suigetsu things can change a bit but with how Yamamoto tanks attacks he can just take a stab just like before but counter with one of his Zanka no tachi attacks.

[Blue Flame]

I think it's a tie because they both have certain methods and are slick so...idk fml

[Souret]

One other point for Aizen then I think I'm out of arguements the knew bad guy (sorry I forgot his name) he wants Aizen right so that may me Aizen has something else we don't know about this guy wants and judging from the outcome of his fight with Yamamoto anything he could want is probably really powerful, not sure that counts here though too much speculation

[Sagepain]

^ of course Aizen has somethings that hasin't been revealed.

For Example his Bankai which was never used. Of course those can't be used in debates until they are actually shown on panel.

[Souret]

We still know Aizen but up a pretty good fight without any of that and we have never seen him 'bloodlusted' so we can't really predict that. But yeah nows probably a good time for me to quit fighting a loosing battle

[Nigoyukai]

Just adding on to my first response:
Bankai Yama vs Shikai Aizen: Yama wins handily. With East, all he needs to do is stab Aizen. With North, he can kill Aizen from a distance. But what if Aizen uses illusions to discern Yama? Well.... there's a 15-million degree invisible West that turns anyone that approaches Yama into ashes. So long as Aizen is within several meters of Yama, he can't even touch him without being burned to a crisp. And none of his attacks have shown to be nearly powerful enough to put even base Yama down except by stabbing him with his sword. And even if Aizen does touch him, he's gonna get vaporized by the actual reiatsu armor. You can give Aizen knowledge of Yama's Bankai abilities and the result should still be the same.
The law of transcendency and reiatsu should give Butterfly/Monster Aizen a victory over Bankai Yama.

[JLI2infinity]

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