PTS Hinata vs TenTen

[PrinceofPeace]

Originally Posted by Hotarubi Hyuuga

Actually Hinata has many advantages, along with be able to see all of TenTens attacks coming from all sides she has trained with Kiba and Shino which meand she has plenty of practice blocking or dodging multiple attacks,
huh? those are totally different than spamming ninja tools
Kiba is a close combat figher and Shino uses live bugs... shino does not even use ninja tools and Kiba rarely does either
plus if you remember when she was practicing against Shino and kiba with the move they showed that they had trown multiple weapons at her and not only did she delfect them, but she cut all of the weapons in half with means that TenTen would have no weapons once they hit Hinata's barrier.
episode please
Also when she blocked all of those rocks from hitting her Nauto and Kiba they were falling from diffrent sides at well, not just from the front.
but they were not as fast or as versitle or as sharp or as controlled

what I meant by Hinata and Neji fight differnetly is that Neji is all about precision, blocking chakra points, while Hinata is all about range, disruptiing a persons chakra network and effecting their internal organs. Do you see where they are different on that end?
ok... how does that matter when Hinata is not getting close to TenTen

And Hinata being on the defensive isn't actually a bad thing, if you've ready anything about the Hyuuga's you'd know that they can fight on their defense alone, they don't really need any offense.
so how does Hinata fight on the defensive

I'm not saying that it's impossible for Hinata to be caught with the iron whip chains, but with her byakugan and reflexes it might as well be impossible for her to catch her.

All I know is that TenTen has MORE advantages and better stamina
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I say TenTen has more ! She keeps up with Neji and Lee! SHe is on team staimina not to mention that Guy trained her ! SHe is always becoming better than yesterday!
TenTen has the distance advantage
TenTen has shown to be smarter and developed plans
TenTen has more knowledge
TenTen has more experience
TenTen has more weapons
TenTen has element of surprise

Hinata does not have any advntages... so how does she win? SHe will eventually get hit by a weapon or TenTen surronds the areas in weapons so she can not go anywhere.
What happens when TenTen re-ueses the weapons from Twin Dragon?

Did you know that TenTen is one of the fastest kunoichi in her age group?

TenTen stamina feats:
-Using Banana Fan
-Enduring Temari's attacks
-Keeping up with herself

Hinata's stamina:
-pusing herself against Neji
-fightin fodders with a team
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Even if Hinata broke the ninja tools her friends are not as good with ninja tools and they were not trying to kill her. They were holding back.

We know that the only way for Hinata to win is to do damage by getting close up but how does she do that?

[Hotarubi Hyuuga]

Originally Posted by PrinceofPeace

All I know is that TenTen has MORE advantages and better stamina
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I say TenTen has more ! She keeps up with Neji and Lee! SHe is on team staimina not to mention that Guy trained her ! SHe is always becoming better than yesterday!
TenTen has the distance advantage
TenTen has shown to be smarter and developed plans
TenTen has more knowledge
TenTen has more experience
TenTen has more weapons
TenTen has element of surprise

Hinata does not have any advntages... so how does she win? SHe will eventually get hit by a weapon or TenTen surronds the areas in weapons so she can not go anywhere.
What happens when TenTen re-ueses the weapons from Twin Dragon?

OK you already said this and I already answered you, so why did you post this again?

Did you know that TenTen is one of the fastest kunoichi in her age group?

TenTen stamina feats:
-Using Banana Fan
-Enduring Temari's attacks
-Keeping up with herself

Hinata's stamina:
-pusing herself against Neji
-fightin fodders with a team
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Even if Hinata broke the ninja tools her friends are not as good with ninja tools and they were not trying to kill her. They were holding back.

We know that the only way for Hinata to win is to do damage by getting close up but how does she do that?

First off you are wrong about Kiba and Shino holding back on Hinata because it is Shino's clans way not to hold back on anyone no matter who they are or how weak they may seem and Kiba will not hold back on Hinata because she won't allow it.

Kiba's Fang over Fang has been put down as the fastest Jutsu among the Konoha 11 so anything TenTen could throw out would not be faster than that. Shino's bugs eats chakra and are faster than TenTen's weapons and on top of that, they can't just simply be dodged like TenTen's weapons.

Hinata's Stamina feats include, training everyday until her hands bleed, facing off against Neji, being able to keep up her 64 protective palms guard up for long time against the enemy, training with Shino and Kiba and for teen Hinata fighting against Pain.

Air needles are mid ranged, but let see how far mid ranged actually is shall we, mind transfer jutsu was a mid ranged move and so is the shadow possession jutsu so basically a mid ranged move can reach from one side of the pulmonary area floor to the other so all Hinata would have to do is get at least that close in order to hit TenTen.

Also to correct you TenTen did not Endure Temari's attacks, she lost the instant she was first hit by one. Also be Banana fan almost killed her and would have if she had not gotten healed.

Byakugan means that she can see the weapons coming from all sides, good reflexes means that she can easily dodge, 64 protective palms would make TenTen's weapons useless once they hit the barrier which means no reuse of the weapons.

oh and also to answer your question about what episode it was, it was either #150 or 151 I forget rater it was two episode deal or not.

[PrinceofPeace]

Originally Posted by Hotarubi Hyuuga

First off you are wrong about Kiba and Shino holding back on Hinata because it is Shino's clans way not to hold back on anyone no matter who they are or how weak they may seem and Kiba will not hold back on Hinata because she won't allow it.
okay... But was I wrong that they are not as good at using ninja tools!! NOPE!! So shino might as well be going easy. as well as kiga (considering ninja toools) Kiba is a close up figer and Shino is a ninjutsu bug long range bug user... so how does hinata fighting them even matter?

Kiba's Fang over Fang has been put down as the fastest Jutsu among the Konoha 11 so anything TenTen could throw out would not be faster than that. Shino's bugs eats chakra and are faster than TenTen's weapons and on top of that, they can't just simply be dodged like TenTen's weapons.
so is it kiba's ninja way not to hold back? Where did you get the that info about Shino? Now you are just making stuff up. Shino's bugs are not faster than thorwing a weapon. The weapons have gone so fast that they were flashes of lights and she is profeiceint in throwing them. The bugs have always been able to keep up with. Plus Hinata fighting them WAS OFF CANNON! This argument is useless it does not prove anything. They are not ninja tool experts so there is no advantage

Hinata's Stamina feats include, training everyday until her hands bleed, (TenTen trains to have deadly accuracy )facing off against Neji,(so does TenTen, training wise. Neji went harder against TenTen with practcing then Hinata) being able to keep up her 64 protective palms guard up for long time against the enemy,(TenTen can keep track of and fire hundereds of weapons of a variety with deadly accuracy) training with Shino and Kiba*Lee and Neji >>>Kiba and Neji so whats your point* and for teen Hinata fighting against Pain.(you mean the 5sec fight? She got one hit in and that is because Nagato flinched! Nagato was toying with her *


Air needles are mid ranged, but let see how far mid ranged actually is shall we, mind transfer jutsu was a mid ranged move and so is the shadow possession jutsu so basically a mid ranged move can reach from one side of the pulmonary area floor to the other so all Hinata would have to do is get at least that close in order to hit TenTen.
we have no feats of Hinata's needles getting that far. Not all of mid-range jutsu can go that far nor the smae distance

Also to correct you TenTen did not Endure Temari's attacks, she lost the instant she was first hit by one. Also be Banana fan almost killed her and would have if she had not gotten healed.
she endured it ... then was done when she hit the fan. SHe used it a lot and withstood a lot. Hinata was going to die against Neji and Pain if she did not get medical attention so what is your point?

Byakugan means that she can see the weapons coming from all sides, good reflexes means that she can easily dodge, 64 protective palms would make TenTen's weapons useless once they hit the barrier which means no reuse of the weapons.
not all sides it is not perfect vision. she can dodge but not as long as TenTen can spam weapons. Even if barriers destoryed the weapons Hinata would still need a way to hit Hinata. Prove barriers can destroy weapons.

oh and also to answer your question about what episode it was, it was either #150 or 151 I forget rater it was two episode deal or not.

thanks

okay and Neji and Lee are better teammates to work with than Kiba and Shino

Lets just agree their staimina feats are equal and training and speed are equal

It just comes down to weapons and protective guard

[Hotarubi Hyuuga]

Originally Posted by PrinceofPeace

thanks

okay and Neji and Lee are better teammates to work with than Kiba and Shino

Lets just agree their staimina feats are equal and training and speed are equal

It just comes down to weapons and protective guard

OK before I get n with this little thing here, first off I never said that it was Kiba's ninja way to never hold back, I said that she would not allow him to, because they showed them training at one point and they were beating her and he said that maybe they should ease up a little and she said no, I don't want you holding back on me so he did as she said. Shino's bugs may not be weapons, but they are a lot more deadly then weapons so what is your point? the simple fact of the matter is that training with both of them would make her ready for fast attacks coming from multiple directions.

Her training with them does matter because you gave her anime and manga feats, while TenTen on the other hand only has manga feats so where in the manga did TenTen Train with Neji and on top of that Neji basically trained Hinata throughout the time skip so what paoint are you making that TenTen trained with Neji, because Hinata did too. Neji didn't go harder against TenTen than Hinata, he never tried to kill TenTen like he did Hinata.

Where I got that thing about Shino from is in the manga, he says so when he is fighting Zaku.

Actually she didn't endure, at all she was done before she hit the fan, Temari only did that to be disrespectful, if you payed any attention, you'd already know that while she was in the cyclone Neji himself said she was done.

As for Hinata's fight with pain, I'd like to see how TenTen would have lasted against him then, at least she got up at least two or three times, so there. and yes she was going to die against Neji and Pain, because they were both strong and they were both trying to kill her, put TenTen in the same matches and see how long she last.

Already proved that it the barriers can destroy weapons because her 64 protective palms not only deflects, but it cuts, watch the episode and you'll see.

Neji and Lee are better team mate to work with for TenTen, that is your opinion that they are better team mates to work with. and show me a weapon that's faster than Shino's bugs while you are at it.

so thank you so very much sir.

[PrinceofPeace]

Originally Posted by Hotarubi Hyuuga

OK before I get n with this little thing here, first off I never said that it was Kiba's ninja way to never hold back, I said that she would not allow him to, because they showed them training at one point and they were beating her and he said that maybe they should ease up a little and she said no, I don't want you holding back on me so he did as she said.
So Hinata was having a hard time even when they were going easy on them
Shino's bugs may not be weapons, but they are a lot more deadly then weapons so what is your point?
they are not the same they are totally diferent things
weapons can bary in size and use and explode. I am not saying they are better but they are different. It's like the bugs are water and the weapons are fire. Water may be stronger than fire but they are totally different. Just because you can defend against one does not mean you can defend against another
the simple fact of the matter is that training with both of them would make her ready for fast attacks coming from multiple directions.
it was off-cannon so we do not reallly know the fruits of her training. She was not dealing with weapons from a weapons specialitst so honestly this point is invalid and useless no offense. TenTen has battle and trained with a hyuuga so she was a better chance than Hinata. Yes it is true they have different fighting styles but they are more similar than what Shino or Kiba is to TenTen. PTS Hinata is very similar to Neji.

Her training with them does matter because you gave her anime and manga feats, while TenTen on the other hand only has manga feats so where in the manga did TenTen Train with Neji and on top of that Neji basically trained Hinata throughout the time skip so what paoint are you making that TenTen trained with Neji, because Hinata did too. Neji didn't go harder against TenTen than Hinata, he never tried to kill TenTen like he did Hinata.
I am saying that Hinata has no experience with a weapon specialist.
TenTen has knowledge of fighting Hyuuga's.
YES YES YES
I found it I thought it was only anime
Check out the first few pages of chp. 98

Where I got that thing about Shino from is in the manga, he says so when he is fighting Zaku.
ight. But Hintat was still getting defeated when they were going easy. bugs are not weapons so TenTen still has an advantage

Actually she didn't endure, at all she was done before she hit the fan, Temari only did that to be disrespectful, if you payed any attention, you'd already know that while she was in the cyclone Neji himself said she was done.
All we know is that the fan was the final blow. The jonin would not let the challenger recieve unncesscary damage. I could not find that episode but Neji has been wrong before. He throught Hinata and Naruto were done but he was wrong. TenTen could have survived the fall.

As for Hinata's fight with pain, I'd like to see how TenTen would have lasted against him then, at least she got up at least two or three times, so there. and yes she was going to die against Neji and Pain, because they were both strong and they were both trying to kill her, put TenTen in the same matches and see how long she last.
She would last about the same time. After all Nagato was toying with her and not going as hard. In the manga it was barely a page of a battle. I agree Hinata would win with Air Palms. But I am mainly arguing about PTS Hinata so that is irrelevant

Already proved that it the barriers can destroy weapons because her 64 protective palms not only deflects, but it cuts, watch the episode and you'll see.
yeah it cut... but it were small bugs not sharp weapons

Neji and Lee are better team mate to work with for TenTen, that is your opinion that they are better team mates to work with. and show me a weapon that's faster than Shino's bugs while you are at it.
okay lets not deny that Rock Lee and Neji could beat Shino and Kiba
Of course they are better teammates! Rock lee is inspirational and is alwasy ready to go and admired for his stamina. Neji is a genuis and trains with him. Nobody ever holds back with anyone. Shino is silent and Kiba wants to hold back. This team has the worst teamwork. Shino and Kiba does not help hinata fight TenTen.

so thank you so very much sir.

So how does Hinata win? She does not have a chance of getting close to TenTen. She is older faster and smarter! TenTen would keep her distance and surrond the ground around her with weapons. Hinata would have to jump and then TenTen would barrage her with Weapons. Hinata can not use guards in the air... or has not shown the ability to. TenTen can send bombs with her weapons and throw the bombs around Hinata and the blast would hit her.
Hinata is not getting close so how does Hinata win?
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The point is TenTen has many many many advntages and you have not said how hinata would win you just gave counters.

Please tell me how Hinata wins! PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE tell me how Hinata gets close. Hinata and TenTen are nearly on the same speed levels so if Hinata wants to have a chance to get a hit she will have to constatnly run towards her and Hinata can not run and use guards at the same time.

TenTen will constantly be on the offensive and Hianta will not be able to go ont the offensive and always be on the defensive.

Hinata running while deflecting would be nearly impossible. Hinata can not surive forever.

TenTen has multiple weapons at the ready for mid to long to close range. Lets not forget explosive and smokoe bombs

[Hotarubi Hyuuga]

Originally Posted by PrinceofPeace

So how does Hinata win? She does not have a chance of getting close to TenTen. She is older faster and smarter! TenTen would keep her distance and surrond the ground around her with weapons. Hinata would have to jump and then TenTen would barrage her with Weapons. Hinata can not use guards in the air... or has not shown the ability to. TenTen can send bombs with her weapons and throw the bombs around Hinata and the blast would hit her.
Hinata is not getting close so how does Hinata win?
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The point is TenTen has many many many advntages and you have not said how hinata would win you just gave counters.

Please tell me how Hinata wins! PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE tell me how Hinata gets close. Hinata and TenTen are nearly on the same speed levels so if Hinata wants to have a chance to get a hit she will have to constatnly run towards her and Hinata can not run and use guards at the same time.

TenTen will constantly be on the offensive and Hianta will not be able to go ont the offensive and always be on the defensive.

Hinata running while deflecting would be nearly impossible. Hinata can not surive forever.

TenTen has multiple weapons at the ready for mid to long to close range. Lets not forget explosive and smokoe bombs

OK I'm a little busy at the moment so I'll answer you later on this, plus I didn't even finish reading this, however before I go, dude read what I said and read it correctly, they were not holding back on her, Kiba was thinking about holding back on her, but she would not allow it.

And I never said that Kiba and Shino could be Lee and Neji, I simply stated that they are not beeter people to work with for everyone like you were implying and weren't you the one not too long ago saying that Shino could stomp Neji. so what exactly changed your mind now?

Lastly obviously you did not watch the entire episode because earlier on they showed that Hinata had been practicing with it and cut a bunch of weapons in half, you keep talking about off-canon, but you're the one who allowed it.

[PrinceofPeace]

Originally Posted by Hotarubi Hyuuga

OK I'm a little busy at the moment so I'll answer you later on this, plus I didn't even finish reading this, however before I go, dude read what I said and read it correctly, they were not holding back on her, Kiba was thinking about holding back on her, but she would not allow it.
okay not only was the fight off-canon but this does not prove that she can survive agsinst TenTen when they fight differently

And I never said that Kiba and Shino could be Lee and Neji, I simply stated that they are not beeter people to work with for everyone like you were implying and weren't you the one not too long ago saying that Shino could stomp Neji. so what exactly changed your mind now?
I am saying they are better to work with and that is a fact. Neji lost to Shino due to the conditions. Kiba is dumb and is reckless. Lee is also dumb and reckless but has great stamina and belives in others. kiba told Hinata to run away. Neji is great to train with to get TenTen use to fighting Hyuuga's. Shino barely interacts with his team. Team Guy has a stratgey to fight while Team 8 does not.

Lastly obviously you did not watch the entire episode because earlier on they showed that Hinata had been practicing with it and cut a bunch of weapons in half, you keep talking about off-canon, but you're the one who allowed it.
anime and off-cannon are two different things. It is like when Sai caught Yamato. they did not show how he was captured in the manga nor the anime. can you send me a link of your proof please

lee>Shino
lee>kiba and akamaru
neji>shino
Neji>Kiba and akamaru

(btw I totally won the first practice tourney) lol

[Mundus]

yea hinatas has a strong defense that tenten will never break

[Hotarubi Hyuuga]

Originally Posted by PrinceofPeace

lee>Shino
lee>kiba and akamaru
neji>shino
Neji>Kiba and akamaru

(btw I totally won the first practice tourney) lol

OK a link of what proof? If you are talking about the episode I just gave you the freaking number, now watch it.

and what practice tourney, are talking about the test run thingy, I forget about that, I've waiting for my turn the real one.

For the last time, Kiba's not dumb that's just his personality, that's like how Ino seems like dumb hyper active blonde, but she not dumb either.

you can answer that if you want to, but I'll be back to answer you in full later, I'm busy right now.

[PrinceofPeace]

Kiba has only done one smart thing which was escaping Sakon/Ukon

That is it. If he was smart he would not have fallen into Sakura's trap and he would have beatten Naruto

Akamaru is smarter than Kiba

[Hotarubi Hyuuga]

Originally Posted by PrinceofPeace

Kiba has only done one smart thing which was escaping Sakon/Ukon

That is it. If he was smart he would not have fallen into Sakura's trap and he would have beatten Naruto

Akamaru is smarter than Kiba

OK first of Kiba only fell for Sakura's trap because he trusted her, he lost to Naruto because of his sensitive nose and Naruto just so happened to fart, Nartuo won because of luck, nothing more.

[PrinceofPeace]

Sai trusted Sakura but knew she was up to know good. Akamaru also knew not to fight Sai
Naruto won cuz Kiba is foolish and overestimated himself
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that is besides the point Hinata can not hit TenTen so Hinta LOSES

[Hotarubi Hyuuga]

Originally Posted by PrinceofPeace

Sai trusted Sakura but knew she was up to know good. Akamaru also knew not to fight Sai
Naruto won cuz Kiba is foolish and overestimated himself
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that is besides the point Hinata can not hit TenTen so Hinta LOSES

Naruto won, because he got lucky, he did not intentionally fart and you know it, if it had not been for that Kiba would have won the fight.

Sai didn't trust Sakura because he knew that she was acting funny, he knew that she was going to try something and as smart as Sai was, he got caught too so I don't really see your point on this.

and I told you I'll get back to you on that in a minute, besides, there is no way for TenTen's weapons to hit Hinata and thanks 64 protective palms her weapons would be unusable after that.

[PrinceofPeace]

I am not gonna waste my time
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HOW DOES HINATA HIT TENTEN

you keep dodging that question

[Hotarubi Hyuuga]

Originally Posted by PrinceofPeace

I am not gonna waste my time
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HOW DOES HINATA HIT TENTEN

you keep dodging that question

I'm not dodging the question, I told you I was busy, that the reason that's I haven't made any long post.

When I have time I will answer all of your questions, which should be later on today.

[PrinceofPeace]

As soon as the battle starts TenTen will gain distance away. She will then keep her distance with her speed. TenTen is faster than Hinata (just by a lil) so Hinata will not be able to close the distance. It will be hard for Hinata to deflect weapons while running so Hinata will have to stop her movements.

TenTen can reuse the broken weapons or she can save some weapons

[Hotarubi Hyuuga]

OK here we go, though I'm pretty sure there is really long post I was supposed to reply to I'll answer you on how Hinata hits TenTen and get to all of that later.

one by your own rules TenTen is only allowed Manga feats so by that standard the only jutsu she has is rising twin dragons.

When match starts you are right TenTen would try and gain some distance, however Hinata would also try to close the distance, TenTen not only has to try and gain distance, but also has to pull this huge scroll og her back and open it, in that time Hinata would be close enough to hit TenTen with Air Needles and while TenTen is stunned off of th Air needles, Hinata can sloe the gap and strike TenTen with the gentle fist.

Now is TenTen somehow manages to use rising twin dragons Hinata has 64 protective palms with would deflect and cut TenTen's weapons in half, now you insist that she would still be able to use them, however it has been shown that it takes time for TenTen to pull all of her weapons back up so in time Hinata could have closed the gap again since TenTen hasn't been shown moving while doing this and strike her again and if TenTen somehow manages to throw the weapons a second time, Hinata could use 64 protective palms again to cut the half into yet another half and it will keep going like this until her weapons are nothing, but dust.

With Hinata's Byakugan, flexibility and reflexes she could easily dodge anything TenTen has to throw at her while she is trying to close the gap and besides her weapons won't last forever.

Now if there is anything else you'd like to tell me, I'll be happy to answer you on that too.

[PrinceofPeace]

Originally Posted by Hotarubi Hyuuga

OK here we go, though I'm pretty sure there is really long post I was supposed to reply to I'll answer you on how Hinata hits TenTen and get to all of that later.

one by your own rules TenTen is only allowed Manga feats so by that standard the only jutsu she has is rising twin dragons.
she can also summon weapons

When match starts you are right TenTen would try and gain some distance, however Hinata would also try to close the distance,
thats what I said
TenTen not only has to try and gain distance, but also has to pull this huge scroll og her back and open it,
she is used to it and it is not that heavy. she also has smaller scrools. and she has time cuz usually Hyuuga's get into a stance then attack. TenTen can run zig zig while opening it. She is a skilled chunnin so this is not an issue
CURRENT TENTEN DOES NOT HAVE BIG SCROLL
in that time Hinata would be close enough to hit TenTen with Air Needles and while TenTen is stunned off of th Air needles, Hinata can sloe the gap and strike TenTen with the gentle fist.
TenTen is the fastest kunochi in her class. She trains with Lee and Neji so her speed is higher than most. Hinata has NO speed feats. TenTen can block the needles with the scroll or she can jump away and move in unpredictable fashions. The air needles do not do that much damage. Hinata can not run and use chakra needles


Now is TenTen somehow manages to use rising twin dragons Hinata has 64 protective palms with would deflect and cut TenTen's weapons in half, now you insist that she would still be able to use them, however it has been shown that it takes time for TenTen to pull all of her weapons back up so in time Hinata could have closed the gap
That is why TenTen would make sure she has sufficent distance before using that attack. TenTen does not have to use rising dragons cuz spamming weapons is enough.
again since TenTen hasn't been shown moving while doing this and strike her again and if TenTen somehow manages to throw the weapons a second time, Hinata could use 64 protective palms again to cut the half into yet another half and it will keep going like this until her weapons are nothing, but dust.


With Hinata's Byakugan, flexibility and reflexes she could easily dodge anything TenTen has to throw at her while she is trying to close the gap and besides her weapons won't last forever.
neither can Hinat's staimina. She has not shown the ability to run and defelct stuff. Hinata has the vision and reflexes but not the speed to hit or counter everything.

Now if there is anything else you'd like to tell me, I'll be happy to answer you on that too.

Hinata can not run and deflect and use air needles

TenTen would act like she ran our of weapons then as soon as Hinata gets in range TenTen can pull out another weapon and surprise her

[Devils Lawyer]

Ten Ten is a long range fighter Hinata is close range. Ten Ten should take this easily.

[PrinceofPeace]

Hinata would not be able to keep up forever... plus what I said above