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Old 10-11-2012, 12:58 PM   #1
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Hatake Kakashi, son of the legendary White Fang of the Leaf, is anything but a terrible character and a serial killer.

As a child, Kakashi Hatake is a talented shinobi. He graduated from the Leaf Academy at the age of 5. Then made Chuunin level the year after at the age of 6. And lastly, he became a Jonin at the age of 13. He has some incredible feats as a youngster for his age. His father was most likely similar. Like father like son. Young Kakashi already had a good sense of what battle and strategy was like because he excelled at them, following the rules because of the incident with his father.

Kakashi had a tough kid life as well, similar to the Uchihas. He had to watch the ordeal of losing his father, and his close friends. With the many deaths around him, he decided to follow the Ninja rules and only them. He was struggling with his own personal feelings. Though he wanted to follow the rules, he also cared for his comrades. Obito showed him that friends are more imprtant than any rules. Thus the famous quote from Obito: "If you break the rules then you are regarded as scum. But, abandoning your friends is even worse than scum!" This really hit Kakashi hard. He finally decided to go with his gut feeling, instead of the peer pressure of completing and succeeding in the mission.

With that and in the Kakashi Gaiden, Kakashi decided to head back to save Rin. But, as the three make a run for it, Kakashi was hit by a rock in his blind side. Boulders were closely coming down on him, but in the last second, Obito pushes Kakashi away. Instead of Kakashi being crushed, Obito was found lying under a huge rock. With his last words, he gave Kakashi his left Sharingan as a parting gift and his Jonin gift. Also, he asked of Kakashi to protect Rin.

As time passed, we know that Rin was probably killed and Kakashi was not able to keep his promise to Obito. That is why we see Kakashi always lamenting over the Stone Memorial in Konoha. He remembers the time of losing Obito, and Rin.

But to make up for the losses of his dear friends, Kakashi has vowed to protect his comrades, even if it kills him. He will not stand to letting them die and has shouldered many guilt and regrets. Surprisingly, he has not gone insane over these burdens. He has a strong mind and body, thinking clearly of what to do next and will be successful at it. Though he may fail at times, He is only human, like every other person is. Everyone makes mistakes and have to make hard decisions including if it is for the sake of their friends and their request.

So with this, Kakashi had to kill Rin because she was probably a spy(theory of eveyone else, credit to them.) and she would rather die at his hands rather than the enemy. From Chapter 605, we see that the Rain ninja wanted her body because it contained valuable intel of the Hidden Leaf Village. If the info is leaked out into other nations, then it would spell out disaster for Konohagakure. So, Rin probably asked Kakashi to kill her. Kakashi should not be mistaken as a killer because of this. He is only doing it for his friend's sake, who was thinking of protecting the Leaf as well in the big picture.

By killing Rin, Kakashi had unlocked the Mangekyou Sharingan. Apparently Obito did as well because he was there watching the scene. After obtaining the MS, Kakashi soon passed out and Obito went on a rampage, killing the Mist ninjas.

A question that came up is(a friend of mine thought of this), why didn't Obito kill Kakashi when he was passed out? It was a perfect time to get revenge on him for killing his love, Rin. And also, why didn't he take his eye back?(also suggested from the same friend)

One thing that kind of seems weird was that Kakashi got his MS early on, but was revealed in part 2. Shouldn't he have known about it already earlier? I guess he was training during the time skip and then remembers the guilt from the past and the MS activated. He then finally learned how to use it and its power.

Now, he is able to use Kamui more than the start of Shippuden. Since he is not an Uchiha, his body could not really handle all the strain and quick chakra drainage. But over time, he adapts to the shared power and uses it wisely whenever he is in a dire situation. He is a genius in being able to figure out how to use it in accounting for the fact that he is a non-Uchiha/non-hax character.

Like Kyuubi no Yoko said in his thread, Hatake Kakashi is a true Shinobi. His tactical and battle skills truly fit the descriptions of what a ninja is about. He supresses his emotions most of the time so that it will not interfere with his emotions. He is able to think clearly despite his troubled past and is intelligent, and hot. Heheh~!

Even with all the crazy stuff that happened in his past, he is still able to carry on though out life, thanks to the help of his friends, and especially Might Guy. Kakashi Hatake is able to stay sane unlike the Uchihas. Seems as if part of his nindo is to not look back, or forget the regrets and move on in the present. There is no use to sulk about the past. It is best to just keep moving foward and protect the things that are dear to you now. Division three and all of his other comrades, and Naruto, are there to support him. He is not a commander for nothing and is an excellent choice to be the Hokage(though he would turn it down, hinted in his quote: "I was dangerously close to becoming the Hokage.").



In short, Hatake Kakashi is a highly respected man and Shinobi. People should continue to look up to him and not see him as some crazy person like the Uchihas. He still has a straight mind and a goal, to protect what is dear to him. Kakashi Hatake is an awesome, brilliant, [hot], talented, and unique character.

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I guess the shorter version could be found at the beginning and end paragraphs.
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He pulled chapter 604 because he didn't want to be like his father. He felt horrible guilt, and eventually decided to fully heed to Obito's words.

He found out he had Mangekyo, and thought he had gone on the killing spree, and vowed not to use it until he felt he trusted himself.

He decided he could trust himself with Naruto.
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Hatake Kakashi, son of the legendary White Fang of the Leaf, is anything but a terrible character and a serial killer.

As a child, Kakashi Hatake is a talented shinobi. He graduated from the Leaf Academy at the age of 5. Then made Chuunin level the year after at the age of 6. And lastly, he became a Jonin at the age of 13. He has some incredible feats as a youngster for his age. His father was most likely similar. Like father like son. Young Kakashi already had a good sense of what battle and strategy was like because he excelled at them, following the rules because of the incident with his father.

Kakashi had a tough kid life as well, similar to the Uchihas. He had to watch the ordeal of losing his father, and his close friends. With the many deaths around him, he decided to follow the Ninja rules and only them. He was struggling with his own personal feelings. Though he wanted to follow the rules, he also cared for his comrades. Obito showed him that friends are more imprtant than any rules. Thus the famous quote from Obito: "If you break the rules then you are regarded as scum. But, abandoning your friends is even worse than scum!" This really hit Kakashi hard. He finally decided to go with his gut feeling, instead of the peer pressure of completing and succeeding in the mission.

With that and in the Kakashi Gaiden, Kakashi decided to head back to save Rin. But, as the three make a run for it, Kakashi was hit by a rock in his blind side. Boulders were closely coming down on him, but in the last second, Obito pushes Kakashi away. Instead of Kakashi being crushed, Obito was found lying under a huge rock. With his last words, he gave Kakashi his left Sharingan as a parting gift and his Jonin gift. Also, he asked of Kakashi to protect Rin.

As time passed, we know that Rin was probably killed and Kakashi was not able to keep his promise to Obito. That is why we see Kakashi always lamenting over the Stone Memorial in Konoha. He remembers the time of losing Obito, and Rin.

But to make up for the losses of his dear friends, Kakashi has vowed to protect his comrades, even if it kills him. He will not stand to letting them die and has shouldered many guilt and regrets. Surprisingly, he has not gone insane over these burdens. He has a strong mind and body, thinking clearly of what to do next and will be successful at it. Though he may fail at times, He is only human, like every other person is. Everyone makes mistakes and have to make hard decisions including if it is for the sake of their friends and their request.

So with this, Kakashi had to kill Rin because she was probably a spy(theory of eveyone else, credit to them.) and she would rather die at his hands rather than the enemy. From Chapter 605, we see that the Rain ninja wanted her body because it contained valuable intel of the Hidden Leaf Village. If the info is leaked out into other nations, then it would spell out disaster for Konohagakure. So, Rin probably asked Kakashi to kill her. Kakashi should not be mistaken as a killer because of this. He is only doing it for his friend's sake, who was thinking of protecting the Leaf as well in the big picture.

By killing Rin, Kakashi had unlocked the Mangekyou Sharingan. Apparently Obito did as well because he was there watching the scene. After obtaining the MS, Kakashi soon passed out and Obito went on a rampage, killing the Mist ninjas.

A question that came up is(a friend of mine thought of this), why didn't Obito kill Kakashi when he was passed out? It was a perfect time to get revenge on him for killing his love, Rin. And also, why didn't he take his eye back?(also suggested from the same friend)

One thing that kind of seems weird was that Kakashi got his MS early on, but was revealed in part 2. Shouldn't he have known about it already earlier? I guess he was training during the time skip and then remembers the guilt from the past and the MS activated. He then finally learned how to use it and its power.

Now, he is able to use Kamui more than the start of Shippuden. Since he is not an Uchiha, his body could not really handle all the strain and quick chakra drainage. But over time, he adapts to the shared power and uses it wisely whenever he is in a dire situation. He is a genius in being able to figure out how to use it in accounting for the fact that he is a non-Uchiha/non-hax character.

Like Kyuubi no Yoko said in his thread, Hatake Kakashi is a true Shinobi. His tactical and battle skills truly fit the descriptions of what a ninja is about. He supresses his emotions most of the time so that it will not interfere with his emotions. He is able to think clearly despite his troubled past and is intelligent, and hot. Heheh~!

Even with all the crazy stuff that happened in his past, he is still able to carry on though out life, thanks to the help of his friends, and especially Might Guy. Kakashi Hatake is able to stay sane unlike the Uchihas. Seems as if part of his nindo is to not look back, or forget the regrets and move on in the present. There is no use to sulk about the past. It is best to just keep moving foward and protect the things that are dear to you now. Division three and all of his other comrades, and Naruto, are there to support him. He is not a commander for nothing and is an excellent choice to be the Hokage(though he would turn it down, hinted in his quote: "I was dangerously close to becoming the Hokage.").



In short, Hatake Kakashi is a highly respected man and Shinobi. People should continue to look up to him and not see him as some crazy person like the Uchihas. He still has a straight mind and a goal, to protect what is dear to him. Kakashi Hatake is an awesome, brilliant, [hot], talented, and unique character.
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He pulled chapter 604 because he didn't want to be like his father. He felt horrible guilt, and eventually decided to fully heed to Obito's words.

He found out he had Mangekyo, and thought he had gone on the killing spree, and vowed not to use it until he felt he trusted himself.

He decided he could trust himself with Naruto.
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This holds way too much speculation.

And Jesus Christ, Indigo is Blue, not White!
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Once you go indigo, you never go back, you know?
I actually like orange better.
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^^^I love how Obito knows what's going on. But then again their eyes are linked
Well, he did know his father went all suicide because he didn't fulfill the mission. This also explains why Rin was surprised. She thought he would follow Obito's words over his father's.

At that second, he decided he would follow his father, and then realized that he didn't have to kill. This also gave him a liking to Naruto, for being stubborn, and no matter what, only allowing the option of absolute success. Bring Sasuke back ALIVE.
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My favorite part of this thread is the phrase "UNLIKE THE UCHIHA"... Kakashi had every right to have a beef against the Leaf village...

ALTHOUGH, uchiha may seem the strongest, they are the most easily susceptible by silly emotions. Look at Madara, Sasuke, Obito ...etc. (tho' OB's is not that silly)

Kakashi could have had issues with the leaf when his father died.... but the little kid continued in his steadfastness as a shinobi, even getting stronger and not being deterred by his father's death, so that by 13, he becomes a jonin. Like KH_DL said, he could have been sulking and acting all like Sasuke and so on... In the end he chidori's his comrade and I bet for good reason...

I wonder this then, unlike Itachi, would he, Kakashi, had completed the mission, by chidoring little sasuke in his groins and not be consumed by emotions felt by Itachi or do you think that is a different case?
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Was Rin even around when Obito said that? I thought he said that because Rin was kidnapped or something?

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Rin looked kind of surprised when Kakashi used lightning blade on her
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My favorite part of this thread is the phrase "UNLIKE THE UCHIHA"... Kakashi had every right to have a beef against the Leaf village...

ALTHOUGH, uchiha may seem the strongest, they are the most easily susceptible by silly emotions. Look at Madara, Sasuke, Obito ...etc. (tho' OB's is not that silly)

Kakashi could have had issues with the leaf when his father died.... but the little kid continued in his steadfastness as a shinobi, even getting stronger and not being deterred by his father's death, so that by 13, he becomes a jonin. Like KH_DL said, he could have been sulking and acting all like Sasuke and so on... In the end he chidori's his comrade and I bet for good reason...

I wonder this then, unlike Itachi, would he, Kakashi, had completed the mission, by chidoring little sasuke in his groins and not be consumed by emotions felt by Itachi or do you think that is a different case?
If Itachi were to kill his little bro, then he'd completing his mission dutifully, but he'd probably have to kill himself too since he is an Uchiha. And weren't all the Uchiha supposed to be annhilated? Excluding the unknown location ones.
The story would have been a lot different. Sasuke wouldn't exist. Actually, the whole clan wouldn't exist after the massacre. Then I guess Obito would be the only survivor and would plot revenge for the clan and Rin.

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Rin looked kind of surprised when Kakashi used lightning blade on her

Seemed like she was sad to see Kakashi sad.

When someone sees someone crying, then they themself would feel sad and/or cry.
Same if someone is happy; it would make you want to smile as well.
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I guess the shorter version could be found at the beginning and end paragraphs.
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Kakashi is the same dude as before so shut up and don't hate him now. You don't know the full story.
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kakashi is awesome and you sir should write a book about him. lol
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