Spoiler Chapter 605

[Wooster]

Get a better scan. No possible way to be the Mist Symbol(straight line and a curve) It is the tip of something, and it is exactly where the tip of the leaf is. Unless it is some other village, but that really wouldn't make sense.

Although, it is always possible kishi really sucks at drawing

[LilHinataGirl]

You should check a little closer...
And why for a spy if the black ops are after her n want her it's probably due to special chakra... They want her body... Why? Because she is already dead n they want to show the body to Danzo and say look we got her n she's dead... It has to do with the power she holds in her or else they wouldn't want her so badly....

[JLI2infinity]

Lol I'm glad all those bogus "It's a clone, it's genjutsu, he got tricked by hidden mist" theories got debunked in one chapter. Like I said Kishi is the skilled writer, his fans, not so much. Anyways, I kinda knew that Naruto could be dark from previous adventures, and I got the idea from the last movie that Kishi can write a pretty violent storyline but this chapter was ridiculous. Standing in a giant poll of blood while it seeps down from the bodies above him, I'm not sure it's even possible to bleed that much from the wounds he inflicted lol, he spilled like half of each one of their total blood volumes onto the floor.

But anyways we know why he's going back to Madara now of course this still leaves the possibility that Madara set this all up considering they were Mist shinobi. The biggest gaffe I saw this chapter was Obito using hand seals to mold Mokuton. I understand controlling the spikes and everything from his own body but how the hell would he know the right seal to weave to summon the wood. That was kinda b.s.

[Devy]

Originally Posted by JLI2infinity

Lol I'm glad all those bogus "It's a clone, it's genjutsu, he got tricked by hidden mist" theories got debunked in one chapter. Like I said Kishi is the skilled writer, his fans, not so much. Anyways, I kinda knew that Naruto could be dark from previous adventures, and I got the idea from the last movie that Kishi can write a pretty violent storyline but this chapter was ridiculous. Standing in a giant poll of blood while it seeps down from the bodies above him, I'm not sure it's even possible to bleed that much from the wounds he inflicted lol, he spilled like half of each one of their total blood volumes onto the floor.

But anyways we know why he's going back to Madara now of course this still leaves the possibility that Madara set this all up considering they were Mist shinobi. The biggest gaffe I saw this chapter was Obito using hand seals to mold Mokuton. I understand controlling the spikes and everything from his own body but how the hell would he know the right seal to weave to summon the wood. That was kinda b.s.

He wasn't the one weaving the seals, I'm guessing Hashirama's DNA was taking over at that point, and the Tobi armour was weaving seals for Obito.

Just a shot in the dark here.

[Rezeon]

*looks again from two different sources*

I honestly don't see a curve, I'm just seeing the edge of a triangular shape with the curved part of the mask overlapping... *shrugs* Maybe I'm wrong... I just think everyone is jumping the gun when this could be a simple art quirk on something we can only see the edge of.

[Maikeru D. Shinigami]

Kishi has done alright with making Obito decent as Tobi. I'm kind of indifferent on seeing him kill people this chapter and about the awakening of MS. It was alright, but nothing that made me hop out of my bed.

What does actually interest me some though is the internal struggles of the characters and their relations with each other after the death of Rin.

[ObitoUchiha]

*Just notices that my, er, Obito's post got stickied*

Anyway, so I am not buying that Rin was... Mist. Maybe a spy... maaayyyyybbbeeee....
But she is not a rogue MIST ninja.

Minato would have figured that much out.

[Neve]

Originally Posted by ObitoUchiha

*Just notices that my, er, Obito's post got stickied*

Anyway, so I am not buying that Rin was... Mist. Maybe a spy... maaayyyyybbbeeee....
But she is not a rogue MIST ninja.

Minato would have figured that much out.

I doubt Minato would've figured it out. Kabuto was also a spy for oro but did he get caught? No, not until he revealed himself. Thats probably what happened with Rin. Someone revealed Rin was a spy to Kakashi

Plus if not Mist, then what other nation? Why would the Mist would her body so bad?

[mrsticky005]

Originally Posted by Wooster

*badass



Yeah, and what's was wrong with Obito? The Mist ninja were trying to save Rin. He is the real hypocrite, killing for no reason.

Well...he IS an Uchiha.

[mrsticky005]

Originally Posted by Maikeru D. Shinigami

Rin was at the entrance ceremony. How would a little ass girl be able to dupe an entire village as a missing ninja? Rin's not from the Mist.

Remember when we were wondering how a 14 year old could go toe to toe against Minato?

[mrsticky005]

Alright what if it went something like this...

Rin was originally loyal to Konoha but in exchange for "something" she leaked
secrets to the Hidden Mist. Most likely she was swayed into doing so by
Madara Mizukage.

Danzo knew that someone from the Hidden Leaf was a traitor but the
question was who. Danzo sets up the dude who looks like he might be
a Leaf ninja as a plant in the Hidden Mist to find out the traitor.

The traitor is Rin.

Danzo doesn't want to just kill Rin because then the Hidden Mist would deny
involvement and Danzo wants to catch them red handed.

So Danzo tells Kakashi who probably doesn't believe Danzo. Kakashi spies on Rin.
Rin is proven as a traitor. Kakashi confronts Rin. Rin will probably tell Kakashi to
kill her because as hard core as Kakashi may act I don't think he really has it
in him to kill his own team mate.

Danzo's plan was probably to have the one fake Mist Ninja then record the
event and return to the Leaf village with proof.

The problem? Obito was the anomaly.

[DrKage]

Originally Posted by mrsticky005

The problem? Obito was the anomaly.

Heck, Obito was perfect for it then. Everyone connected to this Rin spy ordeal is dead. Except Kakashi for some reason.

What if Rin just happened to be carrying information about Konoha's war plans or about the future 4th Hokage (that Kakashi didn't have) and they were hopelessly outnumbered and the only way to prevent the information from falling into enemy hands was to kill Rin. Kakashi was going to be (if not already close to it) an ANBU who usually have no problem doing that sort of thing.

[Wooster]

Originally Posted by JLI2infinity

Lol I'm glad all those bogus "It's a clone, it's genjutsu, he got tricked by hidden mist" theories got debunked in one chapter. Like I said Kishi is the skilled writer, his fans, not so much. Anyways, I kinda knew that Naruto could be dark from previous adventures, and I got the idea from the last movie that Kishi can write a pretty violent storyline but this chapter was ridiculous. Standing in a giant poll of blood while it seeps down from the bodies above him, I'm not sure it's even possible to bleed that much from the wounds he inflicted lol, he spilled like half of each one of their total blood volumes onto the floor.

But anyways we know why he's going back to Madara now of course this still leaves the possibility that Madara set this all up considering they were Mist shinobi. The biggest gaffe I saw this chapter was Obito using hand seals to mold Mokuton. I understand controlling the spikes and everything from his own body but how the hell would he know the right seal to weave to summon the wood. That was kinda b.s.

I agree.
I disagree, Kishi is a hack writter and his fans love it.

It was raining, the blood mixed with the rain, that's why there was a big pool of blood. Doesn't take much blood to make water red.

He didn't summon wood that was Zetsu. Obito used the hand signs to change it i.e blow out the sides of that fat ninja.

Originally Posted by mrsticky005

Alright what if it went something like this...

Rin was originally loyal to Konoha but in exchange for "something" she leaked
secrets to the Hidden Mist. Most likely she was swayed into doing so by
Madara Mizukage.

Danzo knew that someone from the Hidden Leaf was a traitor but the
question was who. Danzo sets up the dude who looks like he might be
a Leaf ninja as a plant in the Hidden Mist to find out the traitor.

The traitor is Rin.

Danzo doesn't want to just kill Rin because then the Hidden Mist would deny
involvement and Danzo wants to catch them red handed.

So Danzo tells Kakashi who probably doesn't believe Danzo. Kakashi spies on Rin.
Rin is proven as a traitor. Kakashi confronts Rin. Rin will probably tell Kakashi to
kill her because as hard core as Kakashi may act I don't think he really has it
in him to kill his own team mate.

Danzo's plan was probably to have the one fake Mist Ninja then record the
event and return to the Leaf village with proof.

The problem? Obito was the anomaly.

This still leaves the question, when was the "Uchiha Incident" when Danzo met "Madara".

[Larry01239]

Originally Posted by Neve

I doubt Minato would've figured it out. Kabuto was also a spy for oro but did he get caught? No, not until he revealed himself. Thats probably what happened with Rin. Someone revealed Rin was a spy to Kakashi

Plus if not Mist, then what other nation? Why would the Mist would her body so bad?

Minato was not around when Kabuto was there. So making a Kabuto and Rin comparison does nothing.

[White_fang]

Recon
Info
Ninja

that is all.

on a side note she could have something to do with danzo and his need for a new spy thats why he went to that orphanage where kabuto was at and took that lady

[JLI2infinity]

Originally Posted by Wooster

I agree.
I disagree, Kishi is a hack writter and his fans love it.

It was raining, the blood mixed with the rain, that's why there was a big pool of blood. Doesn't take much blood to make water red.

He didn't summon wood that was Zetsu. Obito used the hand signs to change it i.e blow out the sides of that fat ninja.
.

Yes I'm well aware that you and Cult are the biggest masochists of the Naruto community, constantly criticizing Kishi yet reading chapter after chapter of his work.

I know Zetsu initially started bringing out the wood but Obito manipulated it by weaving a hand sign to kill the ninja you're referring to and Zetsu replied "You already know how to use Mokuton" how on earth did he know the sign to use, that's what I find b.s.

That pool he was standing in was a thick dark red like the blood of the shinobi impaled by his wooden spike, that didn't look like the consistency of a water blood mixture which looks similar to water with red food coloring, but I guess you could say that's what Kishi was going for.

[Mangetsu Hozuki]

Originally Posted by Vivi

Like I said, Rins probably some sort of Jinchuuriki (hence the bubbles and animal roars and cries).

She transformed but went outta control.
Kakashi was forced to kill her.

So then what did the Mist Ninja mean? And why did they want her body? And which Bijuu would she be a jinchuriki for?

[Devy]

Originally Posted by Mangetsu Hozuki

And which Bijuu would she be a jinchuriki for?

10tails. Rin was the key in Madara's plan. She was going to be the bridge between the Juubi and this world. Then Kakashi killed her and Madara had to change his plans....

Now TenTen will be the Juubi host.

[Neve]

Originally Posted by Larry01239

Minato was not around when Kabuto was there. So making a Kabuto and Rin comparison does nothing.

Im not talking about when Minato was around. Im talking about the basis of when they were spies. Until their identity was revealed they didnt get caught

EDIT: There is also a chance that Kakashi killed Rin so she wouldnt be caught and reveal Konohas secret's. Just wanted to put it out there.

[kravenkorvinus]

Originally Posted by PrinceofPeace

Wow thanks for the help but now I wish I never found the chapter!!

Do not get me wrong I loved the blood! I think it is a new record for the series!

But come one They skiped all the way to MS?!?!?!

Saskue saw his parents dies and his clan !! That is way more emotional than one girl!

Vivi's theory is making more and more sense! I kinda like the idea but I doubt Rin could handle a bijju! ANd why pick her anway?

I doubt there was a bijju in Rin cuz if there were the bijju would need to be born again or something

Its because when his parents died, Sasuke still hadnt awakened his Sharingan.
Kakashi and Obito both have 3 tomoe sharingan when Rin died so.