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Old 10-04-2012, 06:45 PM   #21
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I don't see how this is different from any other abortion.
I mean it's not like it's a person. Who cares if it's a "woman"?



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it's in red. why am i still on here

It's pretty much inevitable that this will become an abortion debate.
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Should there be laws that prevent parents from knowing the gender then? Or that once you know the gender you can't get an abortion??
Assuming either law would be enforcable, I'm against making laws based on assumptions. For every 100 couples who want to know the gender, it could quite possibly be a small percentage who abort for unethical reasons. The government in many many cases could be barring loving parents from knowing their child's gender. I don't see why the government should have that type of power without great necessity.
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I don't see how this is different from any other abortion.
I mean it's not like it's a person. Who cares if it's a "woman"?



Actually...come to think of it. The Chinese and Indians do. Lol!

Well still it's not a person. So why worry about it?
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Thanks wooster for letting it stray into abortion all together

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Assuming either law would be enforcable, I'm against making laws based on assumptions. For every 100 couples who want to know the gender, it could quite possibly be a small percentage who abort for unethical reasons. The government in many many cases could be barring loving parents from knowing their child's gender. I don't see why the government should have that type of power without great necessity.
And what would the "ethical" reasons to abort be?
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I didn't think it would've strayed that fast
Well you thought wrong.

If sex selected abortions are "wrong" then the logical question
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It's like asking

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And then expecting to not talk about crime in general.

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And what would the "ethical" reasons to abort be?
The very same reasons which are also considered unethical; money problems, not wanting a child, it's my body, and so on and so forth. Take yer pick
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It's like asking

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And then expecting to not talk about crime in general.

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The very same reasons which are also considered unethical; money problems, not wanting a child, it's my body, and so on and so forth. Take yer pick
Sex selected abortion is almost always due to money.
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The very same reasons which are also considered unethical; money problems, not wanting a child, it's my body, and so on and so forth. Take yer pick
and how is sex selected abortion really any different from those reasons?

Simple question.

If you think sex selected abortion is "unethical" then WHY?

If you don't then well you don't.
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Yes it is.

They abort the girls because they can't afford them.
(weddings are expensive yo)
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Yes it is.

They abort the girls because they can't afford them.
(weddings are expensive yo)
I if had to pay for daughter's wedding she's just gonna have to accept what i give her. And they have arranged marriages in some places. You aren't going to marry off 2 guys if they aren't gay
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More importantly boys are stronger and can help work and take care fo the parents in old age.
Especially important in China where you can only have one kid.
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More importantly boys are stronger and can help work and take care fo the parents in old age.
Especially important in China where you can only have one kid.
and they will all starve because usually women are expected to do all the housework

China and it's one child law is to control the population growth...which isn't working because all the Chinese people are sending their children to my school (I'm serious. all the foreign exchange students are from China)
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Sex selected abortion is almost always due to money.
The money problems are differentiated by the circumstances. There are statistics for how much a couple has to make by the government's standards, to provide everything a child needs. While they're not a requirement or absolutes, these statistics are an approximate of child care. Thus if the parents don't feel they can provide for their children and make their lives difficult growing up, they can in some people's eyes, ethically abort the pregnancy.

Whereas the article in the op is also based on statistical returns a girl and a boy bring to a family,but the difference is the former doesn't devalue the baby's life. Maybe in a different time and place, that couple would have bee loving parents. Whereas the latter, they're coldly calculating the pros and cons of having a woman who may end up marrying into another family and being a cost to their overall retirement.

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and how is sex selected abortion really any different from those reasons?

Simple question.

If you think sex selected abortion is "unethical" then WHY?

If you don't then well you don't.
For reasons stated to wooster.

The red being the focal point of my general resistance to sex-selected abortion.
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