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Old 09-18-2012, 08:02 PM   #381
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-It sounds like someone is realizing the flaws in NaruSaku and is coming to the NaruHina side
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Definitely Hinata.
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^ and once again another member joins our team.... thats like 7 to your 2
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NaruHina
I think that NaruSaku would be a disappointment in the series. It might be sweet in Naruto's case, but the pairing is trite, and very bland in my opinion.
But then again, I don't think that Kishi writes this for the shippers
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my bad I miscounted that is 8 to 2
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Im pretty much certain that NaruSakun will happen. Too many hints, too many parallels to past (Jiraiya and Tsunade, Minato and Kushina, Team Minato).
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Well I don't tell my family I love them every day. Doesn't mean I don't love them. I like to prove it with actions. Stick by their side when things are low, do everything I can to make my parents proud, cheer up by siblings when they are sad...you know because my is a family of action !!(we're not known for feel-good All-American sitcom moments lol).

WHy are you even brining family into this. I am saying that naruto loves Sakura as a friend. This family thing is irrelevant. Do not forget Sakura has no always been their for Naruto either and has caused him great pain. Yes you may love your family but they are not your lovers.

NOTE: I am not saying that we're better because of that. All I'm saying is the absence of words doesn't mean the feelings aren't there(seriously PrinceofPeace does Naruto need to spell it out for you every time he's angry as well?)

The absence of words those not make your point right either. We are unclear of Sakura's feelings but we are confident in Hinata's feelings. IT is better to say your words than not to. Sakura loves Saskue and we have seen that from her speaking and not speaking.

And uh you didn't answer. If you believed all fillers counted why did you ignore episode 235?
We agreed that Fillers do not count so why are we still disscusing it?

Then you are wrong when you said that everyone in the Hyuuga clan was mean to Hinata.
Okay... this does not help out NaruSaku at all. I got my point across the Hyuga's did not make Hinata feel good. Were they all mean... No way to go you got me on something that is not that important. The poin is her family is the reason she is shy and could not interact with naruto.

However you are implying that he is holding a grudge with statements like this:
Naruto never said that Sakura caused him physical pain and he never said or even implied that he was upset with her hitting him all the time. She hit him more in part 1 than part 2 but at the end of it all he still wanted her to like him.
Naruto does not need to say everything that happens. You said above that Naruto does not need t announce when he is angery every time. We see this by his actions and. It is obvious Naruto gets hurt physicall when Sakura hits him!! How does that not hurt? I did not say Naruto does not like the pain but he would rather that she did not hurt him. He does not like pain!! Who does

Naruto would like a girl who makes him happy inspite of her faults. Sakura is that girl.

Hinata can and does make Naruto happy and she has not caused him ANY pains! Unlike Sakura! You are right (see I say you are right and give you credit) Naruto would see past the faults!.... She would see past Hinata's shyness and realize that she really loves him more than anything and that He is not a second choice. He would also realize that She loves him more than he likes Sakura. Sakura has way to many faults to look past

Sakura's faults
-loved and is still in love with Saskue
-Caused him emotional/physical pain
-Went behind his back to kill Saskue
-Lied to herself and Naruto
-Has not said that she loves Naruto
-Did not make a move on Naruto

Hinata's faults
-shy/weird



OMG this is too easy lol.
then how about you counter it?



That part was selfish and a -1 for SasuSaku.
Acutally that is a +2 for SasuSaku thus a -2 for NaruSaku! She tried and FAILED to kill Saskue. She could not bring herself to kill her beloved Saskue (+1)!! Also Sakura wanted to help and save Saskue by killiing him! SHe wanted to make sure that he does not do any more evil/damage! This goes against Naruto's wishes. Sakura did not believe that Naruto could save Saskue. Naruto would not become hokage if Sakura killed saskue because Naruto thinks that a hokage should be able to save at least one friend!

That part was not. She knew killing Sasuke would get Naruto to hate but she was going to do it anyway why?
Because she also knew that Sasuke caused Naruto more pain that anyone. And she wanted to take that burden off of his shoulders. Sure she went about it horribly, but her heart was in the right place.
For the record, Naruto hating her would NOT make her happy. But as long as he wasn't suffering anymore she would deal with it.
As I said that was one of the many reasons why she TRIED to kill Saskue! The bottom line is that Sakura FAILED (as usual) and could not kill Saskue. Sakura did not care about Naruto enough to finish the job. She still loves Saskue and as you said " Went about it horribly". Sakura was one of the smartest in her class she could have thought of a better plan or AT LEAST told Naruto the truth. Even if Sakura did kill Saskue it would not have solved anything. Naruto would have failed at trying to bring Saskue back home!



Key word in this is sometimes. Naruto and Sakura cannot fall in that group anyway because Naruto loves Sakura and Sakura knows it but they can still be comfortable with one another and that scews up the whole awkward thing.
Yet Sakura has not returned the feelings for Naruto and her feelings are not as intense as they are for Saskue! Plus as Sakura says she wants to be with him with everybody and not just have her alone. This is more public and more friendly.

Naruto knows (I repeat). He thought Sasuke would make Sakura happy because that's how it was when they were kids. He's been completely blind to the fact that Sasuke has caused Sakura more pain than ever and has been doing so longer than he has made her happy.

Prove that Saskue will not make Sakura happy! Sakura lied to him saying he did not care for him during the confession and even in Part 1 she cried over him and pleaded for him to stay in the village! Sakura still thinks about Saskue even in the war. Sakura is still in love and will be happy with Saskue.

THis is because Naruto is as blind as a mole when it comes to Sasuke. I really, really hate that. But that's another debate all together.

How is Naruto blind? They traded blows with each other! Naruto knows saskue almost as well as Saskue does. Prove Naruto is blind! This is just another one of your outrageous opinoninated thoughts



Don't care about her excuses. Point is she doesn't have a leg above Sakura because she doesn't KNOW Naruto. SHe knows nothing about his trials as a jinchuuriki, nothing about the pain he's gone through thanks to Sasuke, etc. All she knows is that when people underestimate him, he proves them wrong.

WOW now you are cutting my post off. It is officiall you are the WORST person I have ever debated! At least HInata has better excuses than Sakura. It is better to LOVE Naruto more which Hinata does than to Know him! Love>>>Knowledge! Knowledge of Naruto puts Sakura into the friend-zone. Sakura has not truley expressed her love for naruto. We know she is capable of expressing love because she does it sooo intensly for Saskue

She doesn't know Naruto as person, she isn't there to comfort him during the bad times and to celebrate the good times and she doesn't know...Naruto. Because she never attempted to get to know him. Who does know him? Sakura.

Hinata has been there for Naruto more times than most people think
Bad times/Good Times
-Trying to rescue him from Pain
-Trying to help him with the test
-Fighting for him in the war
-Meeting with the Konoha 11 to disscus Saskue/Naruto
-Encouraged Naruto to defeat Neji
-There for Naruto when he defeated Nagato
-When Naruto beat Kiba and she gave Naruto medicine
-When Naruto was fighitng Saskue for the first time (before they were gennin)
-Helped him find Itachi

Again Hinata was shy and she had missions!! She could not hang with Naruto whenever she wished
Also you are ignoring Sakura in this situation!! She is on the same team with Naruto and she had all the time in the world to make him feel good or make or move BUT SHE DID NOT!! When Naruto really needed her she could not help. WHen Jiryria died Shikamaru did more than sakura did! Jiryria and Kakashi helped more with the Saskue issue than Sakura did. All Sakura did was cry and worry over Saskue while she ignored Naruto's feelings



Sakura does initiate things with Naruto lol.
What are you saying? Is this another excuse? How does sakura initiate things with Naruto?



Well no...most of what Hinata has done is in her thoughts. And Sakura has done all that and more.
Care to elaborate on what more is? AND you are a LIAR!!! Sakura did NOT tell him that she loved him (truthfully). What hinata thought of Naruot is wayy more than what Sakura has thought of him.



It's more than what Hinata has done .
Nooooo since Sakura has caused Naruto more pain than Hinata and Hinata has truthfully told him that she loves him

Actually Sakura has blushed more around him in the manga.
You act like sakura blusing is rare! Sakura blushed when Inari complemeted her and around Saskue. Sakura blushing is common. She even blushed around Sai! Sakura blushes a lot to multiple people. So that was not very special when she blushes around Naruto... ONE TIME!!!!

The feeding was in the manga. Here's a hint: Konohamaru Sexy Jutsu.
Yet you fail to give the chapter and page. i did not say what you thought I was going to say so stop putting words in my mouth. Give me the chapter and page or it never happened. Now I know why you like Sakura!!! Your both hypicrites!!! WHen Naruto was being perverted Naruto got punched BUT!!!!!! WHen Sakura was being perverted over the boy on boy jutsu she got off without getting blamed. She was even more perverted than Naruto

She hit him out of worry. It's like when your girlfriend slaps you for saving a child from a burning builing and worrying the hell out of her then hugs you right afterwards because you are alive.
WHich does not make it right

And it is significant because she did it in front of everybody. We got like 1-2 pages of reactions, smiles all around. It was pretty big even if you don't think so.
So everybody already knows Hinata loves Naruto!
Hinata did not say that in public. Only Naruto and Pain heard her(and unlike Sakura's confession he wasn't blushing nor did he look hopeful...and no one smiled).
Too bad Sakura was lying to herself. Plus Naruto was not in a life or death situation! All of his blood was coming out of his back he did not have enough blood to blush. Also he was worried for Hinata!! Hinata did say it in public and her feelings for Sakura are known to all. Even Sakura knows of Hinata's feelings and the slug saw that Hinata loved Naruto and the people who could see the battle

Fine then or change "for" for "towards"

That was for herself not Naruto. Naruto didn't know she was there half of the time(lol I am reminded of this one scene in the novelization of the first manga volume. Hinata was secretly watching Naruto and Naruto pretended to be asleep so she'd leave XD).
Care to share the chapter and pages for ^. I can not trust you anymore. You are a liar and one-sided. This was a romantic thing to do towards Naruto




For herself. Naruto thought she was that way with everyone.
Yet Naruto was WRONG!! Hinata has blushed for/over Naruto than sakura has which makes this anothe rromantic gesture towards/for Naruto



For herself obviously. She even admitted that doing so was completely selfish on her part.
Well I am glad she was selfish cuz if she was not Naruto would have been dead! Also Sakura has been way more selfish than that due to the guilt promise in all! THis is ANOTHER romantic gesture towards/for Naruto



For Naruto because her intentions were there even though Naruto backed off at the last second.
Finally even you admited this was for Naruto and thus this is a romantic gesture towards/for Naruto


WtH when? Hinata has done NOTHING to help in his search for Sasuke. Sakura has done WAY more and Naruto admitted that working with her(Sakura) to find Sasuke was what made him really happy?
At least Hinata went out of her way to try and help. sakura was asssigned to the missions to help find saskue so she had no choice in the matter! They are on the same team so sakura is susposed to have done more especially when SHE LOVES SASKUE!!! Naruto was just glad he did not have to find saskue alone

Unless...are you talking about the Search for Itachi arc, where Hinata had her eyes more on Naruto than anything and had to be told by Sakura to do her damn job? Because nope...she made no impact there either.
Hinata did way more than Sakura did on that mission. Sakura was just paranoid and wanted to be with her lover saskue!! Hinata warned Naruto to watch out behind him and gather info on Kabuto's condition



How is this 'for Naruto'? And how is this something 'Hinata has done romantically?' Just because it's obvious to others doesn't mean it benefits Naruto in anyway.
It is romantic/cute that people know that hinata loves Naruto and nobody objects to it. HOWEVER
WHen Sakura declared her FALSE FEELINGS for Naruto others did not agree and objected to it Even yamato
For Naruto okay.

For Naruto okay....he immediately tried to give some to Sakura .
Because Naruto was a fast healer due to the fox and did not need it. Naruto was just being a good teammate.


How is that 'for Naruto'?
This is a romantic gesture toward Naruto. IT is customary for you to think of your love. Maybe "for" was the wrong term/word to use but my point still gets across perhaps "towards" instead of "for" would be better for you.

Wow so out of all of that Hinata has only done three romantic things for Naruto...the same amount as Sakura(in your opinion in my opinion Sakura has done many more romantic things such as heal him and worry about his wellbeing(when he's not fighting))!!
Acutally I countered aobve so Hinata has more than 3 while sakura (Barely) has 3 things

Only...maybe we should consider the fact that one of those things(giving the medicine) led to a NaruSaku moment(Naruto offering Sakura that same medicine).
Yeah... a Narusaku friend moment. After all Sakura did yell at Naruto after she was trying to be nice. Yes Sakura was more concerend for Naruto but she could have done it in a nicer way



Dude. She is confused. Let me ask you do you even like Naruto? You haven't said a lot of good things about him. You haven't said anything good about him actualy. You are only praising Hinata.

Why not just write fanfiction about PrinceofPeacexHinata and leave Naruto out of your fantasies?

When have you said anything good about Naruto you HYPICRITE. This is not just about Naruto.... why would we say anything nice about him now? What would we say that he is strong? That would be irrelevant! This is about NARUHINA being better than NARUSAKU!! This is not just want person and we are not complimenting their skillz
You seem to have forgotten that this is not Hinata's story. It's not a shojo. It's a shonen and it's Naruto's story. Meaning his wants and needs are above hers and so he is more likely to get Sakura.
EXACTLY!! Naruto WANTS Sakura to be happy and Naruto WANTS to bring Saskue back to the village! So Saskue will come back and he will hook up with sakura to make her happy. Naruto will end up with the girl he never expected and realizes that she is better (talyor swift song "You belong with me" kinda moment)



If Sakura gets with Naruto is shows that you never give up. Naruto has loved Sakura all this time and has NEVER given up on her and in the end his persistence succeeded because he gets the girl(and as a bonus Sakura gets a happy ending too. Cuz Naruto's a good guy and she will love and choose him over Sasuke.)
The same thing can be said for Hinata. How does this represent sakura when she wanted Saskue from the begining but can not get her? Naruto has not been trying relentlessly to get Sakura. BUT Hinata has been relentlessly trying to get Naruto and Sakura has been relentlessly trying to get saskue so it would not make sense if Naruto got Sakura when he barley worked for it and when he barely had her in mind

If Hinata loses out that doesn't mean the theme of 'never give up' is broken because that isn't Hinata's theme. Hinata's theme is about IMPROVEMENT and how you really can better yourself if you want to and to not let self-esteem overcome you. I'd say she succeeded there.
FALSE YET AGAIN
-DO you even know Hinata at all? Her ninja way is not to improve!! IT is like Naruto's which is never to give up! So hinata will obtain Naruto and Sakura will obtain Saskue because they both never gave up on their goals. Naruto lost track of her love for sakura and has not been working as hard to get her



Are they in love with Naruto too?
idk... possibly. SOme fangurls think Naruto is cute


Some of Hinata's appearences(which you memorized) and chapters where Sakura has hit Naurot(which you probably googled). Amazing. Truly you have sweated in this debate.Too bad you can't give evidence where it counts nyah-ha .

What are you talking about?? You use fillers/anime even though you started/stated they do not count but still use them and you do not give chapters nor pages. You still have not proven that sakura fed Naruto! Yet Sakura has fed Saskue!!


The last time Inari saw Sakura she had long hair. Of course she wouldn't look the same to him.
So! Sakura is not identical as she was in Part 1. She is more of a woman and has a different style. THe bottom liine is that Sakura blushed and liked his comment more

They did. BEcause Naruto knew that talk of Sasuke made Sakura upset(without her telling him) and knew just how to handle it(again without her telling him). And she, just like Hinata(cept Sakura did it first), thanked him for it.

THey did not look into each others eyes and if so PROVE IT. It is obvious that being reminded of saskue and what he does makes her sad. It does not take a doctor to figure that out. Hinata's and Naruto's connection was more impressive because they do not know each other as well and Naruto used to be unaware of Hinata's feelings

And it was obvious. Naruto saves her and then she looks at the ground and frowns. It was incredibly obvious.
Obvious that Naruto does not want to talk to sakura but would rather talk with Hinata



She looked surprised that he was there. As far as she knew, he was supposed to be elsewhere remember? And then he also shows up lookign different. LOL so then I guess it isn't all that special that Hinata recognized him. Neji, Kiba, and Shino are morons though.

SO hinata was also surpised yet did not question him and his apperance did not bother Hinata too much either. , Neji is a jonin and inteliigent and shino is also very wise.. kiba is dumb. Prove that the other two are morons. How was the moment not special?!?!!?!?! It was better than Naruto reuniting with sakura thats for sure. Hinata knew it was naruto and believed in him and they had a connection

I...I think I'm gonna cry because you're so mean to me
THen quit cuz your not so nice either

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Whoops wrong emote lol. But seriously if you are write can other people say so? You seem to have this thing where you speak as if your opinion represents the majority when it only represents YOU.
Actually just look at most polls and you will see that NaruHina is the victor! There are even fan clubs for NaruHina and against NaruSaku. Did you even look at the links??

In fact, I won't respond to the rest of your post until someone says 'PrinceofPeace is right you are wasting your time and you are a HUGE hypocrite and even HUGER poor debater. Go yourself Lari".

People watned to say that but I told them no and that it was too mean... your welcome

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Awe thanks you make me smile!!!

Legit question though: how can Naruto make a choice without anyone feeling like they are someones "second choice"???
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I believe it's possible. At the top of my head...

For NaruSaku- Sakura chooses Naruto while both Naruto and Sasuke are alive. There are two ways I think.

1) She pulls a Karin and denounces Sasuke. Quite likely through the use of flashbacks, if she compares all the good Naruto has done and how happy he makes her, how she can be herself in front of him instead of who she believes he wants her to be, and how comfortable she is in general around him, etc, to how miserable Sasuke makes her I think she can realize that her heart never truly belonged to Sasuke and she was just hanging onto an old crush that never went anywhere anyway.

2) Sasuke is redeems and finally offers Sakura some lovin' but she declines. Because she wants Naruto.

For NaruHina: Naruto chooses Hinata over Sakura. I can only see one way(but that may be because I'm not a fan sorry).

1) Sakura finally offers Naruto that date. But he says maybe another time becuase right now he is more interested in someone else . *glances at and smiles at Hinata who blushes*. Sakura looks a little sad but understands.

EDIT just thought of another....and then I realized it wouldn't fit Hinata's character/contradict what she said in 573 so nevermind.

So I certainly think it's possible for any pairing to happen without anyone looking like a 'second place trophy'. Love triangles like that have been done since Shakespearean times so it isn't impossible to pull it off successfully.

The Naruto fandom just happens to have a few nimrods that's all lol.

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@Lari why do you question his love for naruto?
Because all of his arguments center on Hinata's side of things and he'll put Naruto down harshly if it means excusing Hinata's actions. Not to mention he's made it clear that in the grand scheme of things, he doesn't believe Naruto's feelings matter at all and some of the things he says implies that Hinata is the main character/title character instead of Naruto when she is only a side character. That's why I made the joke of PrinceofPeacexHinata, because from the way he argues it's as if he wished he was the one with Hinata instead and Naruto should do what he would do in his shoes(as opposed to looking at the manga objectively with a slight pairing bias).

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i understand what you mean by her hypocrisy but the fanfic part was FUNNY

not saying she's right
great...

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We agreed that Fillers do not count so why are we still disscusing it?
Because part of debating means acknowledging everything. It really said something about you when you zealously pushed fillers as being canon, yet ignore 235. That's onesided in and of itself and really set the stage for how you will treat manga/canon stuff.

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then how about you counter it?
I did. Read harder.

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THen quit cuz your not so nice either
I let you know from the getgo that I liked to tease. It's what makes debating fun and I'm glad I got a few laughs out of people for it. If it offended you should've said so instead of firing back with insults obviously intended to make me run away in tears.

It's a pairing debate this is not supposed to be that serious.

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People watned to say that but I told them no and that it was too mean... your welcome
Of course you did. That's why I got negged by people in your defense.

I might've teased you about it. Say:

'look out folks PrinceofPeace has an army!'

or

'Looks like I'm not the only liar on this thread lololololol'

But I don't want to hurt your feelings anymore. So I won't.

I see you didn't respond to the rest of post. Good idea save the energy because I am done arguing with you(for realz this time).

Nothing I say matters because it will always be twisted and turned or brushed off entirely and I will always be a lying hypocrite to you who cannot be wrong at all ever at anytime. I hope the next person I debate against will have a bit more...sense I guess.

Good day ! I will leave this debate saying: I think I win.

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I believe it's possible. At the top of my head...
Anything is possible (After all Obito=Tobi!!! But NaruSaku is more unlikey and you have not explained how SasuSaku would not happen very well

For NaruSaku- Sakura chooses Naruto while both Naruto and Sasuke are alive. There are two ways I think.

1) She pulls a Karin and denounces Sasuke. Quite likely through the use of flashbacks, if she compares all the good Naruto has done and how happy he makes her, how she can be herself in front of him instead of who she believes he wants her to be, and how comfortable she is in general around him, etc, to how miserable Sasuke makes her I think she can realize that her heart never truly belonged to Sasuke and she was just hanging onto an old crush that never went anywhere anyway.
Karin still has feelings for Saskue. She did not denounce Saskue... yet! Sakura has had plenty of time to flashback to how great Naruto is so why should we do it now? She would be a lil late! (Not trying to give deadlines but just saying she has not done it in a while) If Sakura has not realized that Naruto is the one for her now it is sad. And it is not like this never happen before. Girls like bad boys
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And lets not forget Rhinna and Chris Brown.

We can compare Naruhina to a lot of relations... but what can we compare NaruSaku to?? we can relate SasuSaku as well yet not much on NaruSaku

2) Sasuke is redeems and finally offers Sakura some lovin' but she declines. Because she wants Naruto.
You are just giving your personal theories without proof. Sakura still loves Saskue so you are implying at lot. Sakura also wants Saskue to come back to the village

For NaruHina: Naruto chooses Hinata over Sakura. I can only see one way(but that may be because I'm not a fan sorry).

1) Sakura finally offers Naruto that date. But he says maybe another time becuase right now he is more interested in someone else . *glances at and smiles at Hinata who blushes*. Sakura looks a little sad but understands.
I LOVE THIS IDEA but... like I said before this is still a lot to be implied without giving evidence to back this up. We can not really say what will happen in the end
BUT!!!!!!!All I know is that
Sakura wants to stand by him and share him with everyone (more friendly, no touchin)
while
Hinata wants to hold his hand and show her true feelings and be with him (more romantic/private/loving)

Because all of his arguments center on Hinata's side of things and he'll put Naruto down harshly if it means excusing Hinata's actions. Not to mention he's made it clear that in the grand scheme of things, he doesn't believe Naruto's feelings matter at all and some of the things he says implies that Hinata is the main character/title character instead of Naruto when she is only a side character. That's why I made the joke of PrinceofPeacexHinata, because from the way he argues it's as if he wished he was the one with Hinata instead and Naruto should do what he would do in his shoes(as opposed to looking at the manga objectively with a slight pairing bias).
How did I put down Naruto. We both have not said anything good about Naruto... why??? Because this is not about complimenting him. I am not excusing I am countering/debating. How is it excuses?? Just because you can not counter my logical reasonings does not mean that they are excuses. Too bad Sakura does not have a good excuse for STILL loving Saskue or causing naruto soo much pain. Of course Hinata is not the main character but neither is sakura. She has not done that much with alll the screen time she gets. I do believe Naruto's feelings count. You just act like he has shown zero emotion towards Hinata. You act like you know Naruto does not love Hinata. WHy do you just go on marrying Sakura and living a Lesbian life style with her since you think she is so worthy and awesome!!



great...
yep its great that others think you are wrong



Because part of debating means acknowledging everything. It really said something about you when you zealously pushed fillers as being canon, yet ignore 235. That's onesided in and of itself and really set the stage for how you will treat manga/canon stuff.
I did NOT ignore 235. I brought it up and counterd it and stated their were more than 1 types of love but you obviously did not read it. I am not one sided because I agree like you that fillers do not count. I wish they did count yet they do not. So 235 DID NOT HAPPEN. Afterall you brought up the point that fillers do count so I agree with you. You explained fillers not countering and 235 on the same page/post so I did am not one-sided and I agree that fillers do not count



I did. Read harder.
Well not very well. COunter HARDER! Yet that will be hard to do since NaruHina is the better pairing



I let you know from the getgo that I liked to tease. It's what makes debating fun and I'm glad I got a few laughs out of people for it. If it offended you should've said so instead of firing back with insults obviously intended to make me run away in tears.


It's a pairing debate this is not supposed to be that serious.
I really could care less about your teasing



Of course you did. That's why I got negged by people in your defense.

I might've teased you about it. Say:

'look out folks PrinceofPeace has an army!'

or

'Looks like I'm not the only liar on this thread lololololol'

But I don't want to hurt your feelings anymore. So I won't.

I see you didn't respond to the rest of post. Good idea save the energy because I am done arguing with you(for realz this time).
What did I not respond to??

Nothing I say matters because it will always be twisted and turned or brushed off entirely and I will always be a lying hypocrite to you who cannot be wrong at all ever at anytime. I hope the next person I debate against will have a bit more...sense I guess.
Their you go Exagerating again... I guess you forgot to put that in your list above. As alwasy you think you do no wrong and that your sarcasum is top-notch. You think your ish do not stink but it is HORRIBLE!! I hope the next naruSaku believer I defeat will
-admit when wrong
-consider the fillers
-not a hypocrite
-not an exagerating liar
-shows their chaps and pages

Good day ! I will leave this debate saying: I think I win.
HAAHAH I knew you would quit
Looks like we won another round NaruHina fans!!

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I can't believe how much you guys post over this its not a debate just a preference really. Also all the characters are still 16 so Naruto can get with Sakura then Hinata or vice verse or both at the same time without shadow clones.
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^ That is EXACTLY what a NaruSaku fan would say!


Actually their are some facts/features/inferencing !! This is the ideal debate. Yes perferences are included but in what debate is it not included! But it matters who he would be happier with or who he would go with first
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I can't believe how much you guys post over this its not a debate just a preference really. Also all the characters are still 16 so Naruto can get with Hinata then Sakura or vice verse or both at the same time without shadow clones.
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Actually their are some facts/features/inferencing !! This is the ideal debate. Yes perferences are included but in what debate is it not included! But it matters who he would be happier with or who he would go with first
Is that better I put Hinata first.
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Wow that is just another thing what A NaruSaku fan would say

That was not the issue... I did not even notice it!!

What I was saying was

- Your are a Narusaku fan and you do not even think this is a debate! You think we are overposting! Well a TRUE PAIRING FAN would know that their is NEVER too much to say when you believe in somthing! And it is not impossible for 16yr olds to get old together and marry it is very rare that somone would switch lovers when this is not even a romantic novel.
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That was not the issue... I did not even notice it!!

What I was saying was

- Your are a Narusaku fan and you do not even think this is a debate! You think we are overposting! Well a TRUE PAIRING FAN would know that their is NEVER too much to say when you believe in somthing! And it is not impossible for 16yr olds to get old together and marry it is very rare that somone would switch lovers when this is not even a romantic novel.
They don't have to be romantic lovers. Hell for all we know Naruto and Sakura could have done something off panel they have spent many nights on quest together.
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Once again guys, I hate being a Nazi and this isn't even my job but no hate speech. Stop calling each other names. Keep a level head.

Also, this is what we can say at this point in the series:
-Naruto loves Sakura
-Sakura loves Sasuke
-Hinata loves Naruto
-Sakura has feelings for Naruto(?)

All of this could change, obviously, and Kishi could very well completely flip it all around. There's still time, although I'm very doubtful any of us will be happy with the romantic outcomes in the end.

We can't distinguish between love and a crush, as there isn't a difference in manga for some reason. Have you guys noticed that? If it seems like a character has only a slight interest in someone, it's automatically full-on love anyway. I think that's what makes it difficult to figure our characters in question out. Does Naruto love or just like Sakura? Does Sakura love or like Naruto (or nothing at all, which could be a possibility, of course). It would help tremendously if Kishi were to clarify, however he just loves to torture us girls, and since it's a Shonen manga and not Romance, it's not even necessary.
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Once again guys, I hate being a Nazi and this isn't even my job but no hate speech. Stop calling each other names. Keep a level head.

Also, this is what we can say at this point in the series:
-Naruto loves Sakura
-Sakura loves Sasuke
-Hinata loves Naruto
-Sakura has feelings for Naruto(?)

All of this could change, obviously, and Kishi could very well completely flip it all around. There's still time, although I'm very doubtful any of us will be happy with the romantic outcomes in the end.

We can't distinguish between love and a crush, as there isn't a difference in manga for some reason. Have you guys noticed that? If it seems like a character has only a slight interest in someone, it's automatically full-on love anyway. I think that's what makes it difficult to figure our characters in question out. Does Naruto love or just like Sakura? Does Sakura love or like Naruto (or nothing at all, which could be a possibility, of course). It would help tremendously if Kishi were to clarify, however he just loves to torture us girls, and since it's a Shonen manga and not Romance, it's not even necessary.
We don't have anything against each other, I don't mind him/her at all actually.

Ehh its kinda necessary, that way in the begging when they made the squads it would provde conflict and other friction between the teams too see if they can still cooperate together but I can't see how Sakura or anyone could "love" someone who doesn't give a crap about anyone.
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WOW are you kidding me!?!!?? I could say the same for NaruHina but I would not dare go that far because it is a useless argument. You are just assuming and making up stuff. Again a NaruSaku fans brings up something that has no proof and does not help their side. No offense but people have not said stuff like that because it is OFF-PANEL. Just like another NaruSaku fan said that fillers do not count so you assuming something is even worse than fillers
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WOW are you kidding me!?!!?? I could say the same for NaruHina but I would not dare go that far because it is a useless argument. You are just assuming and making up stuff. Again a NaruSaku fans brings up something that has no proof and does not help their side. No offense but people have not said stuff like that because it is OFF-PANEL. Just like another NaruSaku fan said that fillers do not count so you assuming something is even worse than fillers
I said its a possibility. I wasn't too serious about it.

Because they don't count
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We don't have anything against each other, I don't mind him/her at all actually.

Ehh its kinda necessary, that way in the begging when they made the squads it would provde conflict and other friction between the teams too see if they can still cooperate together but I can't see how Sakura or anyone could "love" someone who doesn't give a crap about anyone.
Oh, that was directed towards Lari and PoP, but ok, just making sure people's heads don't blow up over fictional characters who don't actually have freewill.

I know, right? Sakura's such a sucker. But girls like bad boys...
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WOW are you kidding me!?!!?? I could say the same for NaruHina but I would not dare go that far because it is a useless argument. You are just assuming and making up stuff. Again a NaruSaku fans brings up something that has no proof and does not help their side. No offense but people have not said stuff like that because it is OFF-PANEL. Just like another NaruSaku fan said that fillers do not count so you assuming something is even worse than fillers
lol what if in a chapter Naruto was like "But Sakura, when we kissed that one time on the way to the Sand Village it was magic!!!"

I would die.
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I know, right? Sakura's such a sucker. But girls like bad boys...
Hah okay . It just gets...frustrating sometimes you know? But that's why I'm backing off now. I like to tease but things might get personal and I don't want that to happen :P.

Also I completely agree with this:

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lol what if in a chapter Naruto was like "But Sakura, when we kissed that one time on the way to the Sand Village it was magic!!!"

I would die.
I would die too! And then come back to life to ask 'why haven't we seen this kiss Kishi??'

Honestly an onscreen kiss between Naruto and Sakura for me would be magical !

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