The Five Kage's vs Madara

[Hotarubi Hyuuga]

It's not the Kage's you're thinking about

It's non edo Mu, The Second Mizukage, The third Raikage, The Fourth Kazekage and Minato vs a non edo Madara which means he has no wood style.

They're fighting the exact same place the last Five Kage fought Madara.

Who wins?

Told you I'm make another one, hopefully no one thinks that this one overwhelming.

[strongest uchiha]

well it could go either way... madra has the eternal mangekyou ( i think i spelled that wrong) but they don't call them kage's for nothing it could go either way to be honest but i would go with madra.

[Godaime Kazekage]

New Kage take it, the Five Kage who actually fought Madara would also win under these conditions. Madara loses his infant chakra pool, so he can no longer spam attacks and he has no clones to switch with if he's in a jam. 3rd Raikage's nukite jutsu might be able to slice through Susano'o, Madara would be stuck in the 2nd Miz's genjutsu so he'd never even know where his opponents are, Mu could go invisible and then hit Madara with dust release, he also has no knowledge of Minato's FTG, so if Minato manages to tag him it's over. 4th Kazekage can just focus on protecting the team.

[PrinceofPeace]

Muu and 2MK would kill each other. It is TOTALLY OOC for them to work together.

[Godaime Kazekage]

Originally Posted by PrinceofPeace

Muu and 2MK would kill each other. It is TOTALLY OOC for them to work together.

Muu also doesn't like Madara and I think they'd be able to work together to take out the greater threat-they can kill each other after the battle

[JLI2infinity]

Originally Posted by PrinceofPeace

Muu and 2MK would kill each other. It is TOTALLY OOC for them to work together.

Except if they're about to be killed. There have been plenty of teams where enemies have been working together. That's not a serious objection on the battlegrounds.

Anyways how could this go either way. It's an easy win for the Kage team. Madara has no way to even touch them. Not to mention as soon as the fight starts he gets speedblitzed. TRK and Minato kill him on the spot.

[PrinceofPeace]

So Madara does not have wood style but does he have the Rinnegan?

[Cult of Personality]

4KK is fodder compared to Gaara.

Minato isn't much better than Tsunade in this fight. Tsunade has healing and vastly superior damage dealing ability. All Minato can do is run away until Madara drops Susanoo.

[PrinceofPeace]

@Godiame & Infinity

Muu and 2MK wanted to attack each other as soon as they meet. They did not care how are why they were summoned. Thier hatred towards each other is almost laughable!

Madara's Gunbai can defeat Minato's Rasengan. So no rasegan. Aslo fire style would burn his FTG kunai. Gama is the only threat. Yet Gama would be defeated by meteors or powerful force of Gunbai. Also liquid bullets can be abosrbed

Gunbai barrier counters anything the 4KK can do with his slow sand. Susanoo easily pierces through Iron Sand. Genjutsu would also due the 4KK in. Fire attacks would seriously effect the sand

3Rk. Easily defeated by Genjutsu or fire style or Gunbai for direct attacks or Meteor.

[JLI2infinity]

Originally Posted by PrinceofPeace

@Godiame & Infinity

Muu and 2MK wanted to attack each other as soon as they meet. They did not care how are why they were summoned. Thier hatred towards each other is almost laughable!

Madara's Gunbai can defeat Minato's Rasengan. So no rasegan. Aslo fire style would burn his FTG kunai. Gama is the only threat. Yet Gama would be defeated by meteors or powerful force of Gunbai. Also liquid bullets can be abosrbed

Gunbai barrier counters anything the 4KK can do with his slow sand. Susanoo easily pierces through Iron Sand. Genjutsu would also due the 4KK in. Fire attacks would seriously effect the sand

3Rk. Easily defeated by Genjutsu or fire style or Gunbai for direct attacks or Meteor.

Minato is way too fast to get his attacks reflected. In case you forgot, A speedblitzed Madara twice. Madara couldn't even see him and probably would've gotten his arm snapped in two if he wasn't an Edo. Minato has ridiculous reflexes and could just scatter his kunai before Madara gets the opportunity to use fire style. As soon as Madara begins weaving hand signs for his technique Minato appears behind him with a kunai and slits his throat or TRK appears in front of him and slits his throat.

Firestyle defeating the 3RK is laughable. He specifically stated the only way to hurt him was a high level wind attack and even FRS which has the elemental advantage over lightning couldn't put him down. How does Uchiha Gaeshi reflect a punch? And good luck catching him for genjutsu, he's not going to make a rookie mistake like A by worrying about his comrades.

[PrinceofPeace]

Again does Madara even have the Rinnegan

[Hotarubi Hyuuga]

Originally Posted by PrinceofPeace

Again does Madara even have the Rinnegan

As long as he got them before he was turned into an edo he can have it, any jutsu he got from the 1st Hokages cells after he became and edo he can't have.

Originally Posted by Cult of Personality

4KK is fodder compared to Gaara.

Minato isn't much better than Tsunade in this fight. Tsunade has healing and vastly superior damage dealing ability. All Minato can do is run away until Madara drops Susanoo.

True I thought about that however, since I was already replacing the other three Kages I figured I might as well replace Gaara and Tsunade as well.

[BMC1994]

Wouldnt they get speedblitzed consering madara tagged A in lightning armor.

[Godaime Kazekage]

Originally Posted by BMC1994

Wouldnt they get speedblitzed consering madara tagged A in lightning armor.

What...?

[BMC1994]

Madara one panneled the 5 kages meaning he at some point tagged a with a attack who is the fastest shinobi alive. And none of the former kage are known for their speed.

[Hotarubi Hyuuga]

Um Minato is faster than A, even A said that without Minato around he was the fastest, which means that if Minato were around he would be the fastest.

[JLI2infinity]

Speedblitz...gg. Can someone counter this strategy please?

Madara was seen getting speedblitz by A twice. He demonstrated that he couldn't react. So Minato and TRK can take him out as soon as the fight starts.

[BMC1994]

Originally Posted by Hotarubi Hyuuga

Um Minato is faster than A, even A said that without Minato around he was the fastest, which means that if Minato were around he would be the fastest.

Minato might be able to not get speedblitzed but still what damage can he really do to madara i mean the man casually countered a mini bijuu dama with his fan.

And minato being faster still does not save the other kages.

[Godaime Kazekage]

Originally Posted by BMC1994

Madara one panneled the 5 kages meaning he at some point tagged a with a attack who is the fastest shinobi alive. And none of the former kage are known for their speed.

Yeahhh, no. Unless we actually get a panel of Madara hitting A in lightning armor it can't be used in a debate. We didn't see how the end of the fight went down at all. The only thing we know is that the Kage were tired and out of chakra, A might not have been able to maintain his lightning armor, got distracted, or tricked into getting hit. If anyone's going to get blitzed it's Madara, since he could barely react to A (just put up his hands) and Minato's faster than A (w/ FTG at least). Add in 2nd Miz's genjutsu so Madara has no clue where Minato and 3RK are even coming from and he's going to get owned. Gunbai isn't blocking if he can't put it up in time/gets attacked from the back.

[JLI2infinity]

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