Suicide

[WishfulFairie]

Does that mean we won the debate?

[jenny]

Well, we better. But i we didn't, I gots loads more stuff to say.

[WishfulFairie]

As do I
As do I (:<

[jenny]

I don't think I've ever made a friend by having a same lifestyle story xD

[WishfulFairie]

Same.
At least we know we aren't alone

[jenny]

laaarry.

[WishfulFairie]

Yeah Larry is just being a creeper on his own thread
(he's on the viewing list)

[Larry01239]

Wow, 2 more pages on since I left. It seems to me that you two don't know how to talk to your parents and feel like you can't get out what you want to say so you just close down and say nothing until you are dismissed from the conversation.

My suggestion is to write down exactly what you want to say. Do just burst out with incomprehensible thoughts. Actually take the time to sit down and write out a a detailed speech of how you feel, why you feel that way, how they aren't helping, how they can help, and anything else you want to say. Then once you have it written down go over it, review it, edit it, organize it, revise it. Get it into the exact form you want it to be so it will be a perfect expression of you. Next tell your parent you need to have a serious talk, set a time and a day to have a meeting with them. Once that is all set up establish rules for the talk: They have to let you finish with no interruptions, no cell phones or other distractions allowed, etc.

You need to approach this in the most mature way possible otherwise you'll never get them to understand.

(You don't have to do this with both parents or even at the same time. Choose the one who you connect with more)

[WishfulFairie]

Originally Posted by Larry01239

Wow, 2 more pages on since I left. It seems to me that you two don't know how to talk to your parents and feel like you can't get out what you want to say so you just close down and say nothing until you are dismissed from the conversation.

My suggestion is to write down exactly what you want to say. Do just burst out with incomprehensible thoughts. Actually take the time to sit down and write out a a detailed speech of how you feel, why you feel that way, how they aren't helping, how they can help, and anything else you want to say. Then once you have it written down go over it, review it, edit it, organize it, revise it. Get it into the exact form you want it to be so it will be a perfect expression of you. Next tell your parent you need to have a serious talk, set a time and a day to have a meeting with them. Once that is all set up establish rules for the talk: They have to let you finish with no interruptions, no cell phones or other distractions allowed, etc.

You need to approach this in the most mature way possible otherwise you'll never get them to understand.

(You don't have to do this with both parents or even at the same time. Choose the one who you connect with more)

Ironically, on those depression sites I tell people to do sorta the same thing except they write a letter and give it to the person they trust the most

[Larry01239]

Originally Posted by jenny

laaarry.

hi

Originally Posted by WishfulFairie

Yeah Larry is just being a creeper on his own thread
(he's on the viewing list)

I was typing up my post

Originally Posted by WishfulFairie

Ironically, on those depression sites I tell people to do sorta the same thing except they write a letter and give it to the person they trust the most

Seems like you already know what you need to do, you just haven't done it.

[jenny]

Originally Posted by Larry01239

Wow, 2 more pages on since I left. It seems to me that you two don't know how to talk to your parents and feel like you can't get out what you want to say so you just close down and say nothing until you are dismissed from the conversation.

My suggestion is to write down exactly what you want to say. Do just burst out with incomprehensible thoughts. Actually take the time to sit down and write out a a detailed speech of how you feel, why you feel that way, how they aren't helping, how they can help, and anything else you want to say. Then once you have it written down go over it, review it, edit it, organize it, revise it. Get it into the exact form you want it to be so it will be a perfect expression of you. Next tell your parent you need to have a serious talk, set a time and a day to have a meeting with them. Once that is all set up establish rules for the talk: They have to let you finish with no interruptions, no cell phones or other distractions allowed, etc.

You need to approach this in the most mature way possible otherwise you'll never get them to understand.

(You don't have to do this with both parents or even at the same time. Choose the one who you connect with more)

My thoughts are jumbled, it's impossible to sort them out let alone put them in writing that makes sense.
The thing is, I feel adn express in emotions. Words or thoughts just don't happen in a senseful way.

So if I do tell them, it'd have to be personally told. But they refuse to listen. And I'm not about to waste any more energy of mine to get them to do something they will not do. 'Sides, I don't exactly trust them to keep their word.

[WishfulFairie]

Sad thing my parents don't trust me (which they've said) and I don't really have people close enough to trust fully...

[Larry01239]

Originally Posted by jenny

My thoughts are jumbled, it's impossible to sort them out let alone put them in writing that makes sense.
The thing is, I feel adn express in emotions. Words or thoughts just don't happen in a senseful way.

So if I do tell them, it'd have to be personally told. But they refuse to listen. And I'm not about to waste any more energy of mine to get them to do something they will not do. 'Sides, I don't exactly trust them to keep their word.

You can sort it into a something that makes sense later on, but you should write them down. Carry a small notpad or something around with you and whenever you are feeling emotional write down who, what, where, when, how, and why.

If your parents won't listen find someone who will. Like I said earlier, call centers, support groups etc.

Originally Posted by WishfulFairie

Sad thing my parents don't trust me (which they've said) and I don't really have people close enough to trust fully...

they don't trust you in what sense?

[jenny]

Originally Posted by Larry01239

You can sort it into a something that makes sense later on, but you should write them down. Carry a small notpad or something around with you and whenever you are feeling emotional write down who, what, where, when, how, and why.

If your parents won't listen find someone who will. Like I said earlier, call centers, support groups etc.


they don't trust you in what sense?

No. I don't like writing.
I hate people.
No.

[WishfulFairie]

I don't know...their reasons change too much: it's either they don't trust me with certain responsibilities, don't trust me with tellin the truth, oh and here's a good one; my dad doesn't trust me when I cry because apparently I'm lying

[Larry01239]

Originally Posted by jenny

No. I don't like writing.
I hate people.
No.

Well if you're not going to help yourself then there is no reason for me to help you.

Originally Posted by WishfulFairie

I don't know...their reasons change too much: it's either they don't trust me with certain responsibilities, don't trust me with tellin the truth, oh and here's a good one; my dad doesn't trust me when I cry because apparently I'm lying

Still lookin like your mom is your best bet then.

[BoxHead]

I don't encourage suicide for those people who are so down in the dumps, that they want to put a gun in their mouth and shoot themselves. There are two times where I encourage suicide.

If a mass murderer, serial killer, or overall serious ruiner of lives decides to commit suicide, I do agree with the death penalty for extreme cases, as I don't see the point of letting a world-renowned killer sit in a cell for the rest of their lives until they kick the bucket. You might as well kill them.

The other reason is toward the gravely ill. If my mom is dying from a horrible and painful disease and the doctor offers a way to keep her alive for another day or two. I would tell ehr that she can put herself to sleep as I'd rather see her at rest than in prolonged pain.

[WishfulFairie]

Yeah except she likes to twist my words and refuses to be wrong. I'm closer to her and than my dad and love her but certain things just causes tension between the two and then she'll ignore me. After she done ignoring me, I will get in trouble for not offering her anything or talking to her. -_-"

[Larry01239]

Originally Posted by WishfulFairie

Yeah except she likes to twist my words and refuses to be wrong. I'm closer to her and than my dad and love her but certain things just causes tension between the two and then she'll ignore me. After she done ignoring me, I will get in trouble for not offering her anything or talking to her. -_-"

If you write down your words then she can't twist them.

[WishfulFairie]

My mom can't read something in English without asking what a phrase/word means...(she's getting better at reading though)