Spoiler You know what? I FORKING love Chapter 599 and here's why...

[Wooster]

Originally Posted by ice_edge

When did that happen? Can't remember her giving up the location.

Which chapter?

The last part sounds like it was for the lulz. Can't blame ya it was at least a bit funny.

Kushiha ran into Sasuke's mom and told her she was pregant.

Kishi wouldn't have shown us this for no reason; it was intentional.

[kyuubi12]

i still dont think its REALLY obito....i think its a zetsu.cause when kakashi died in the pain arc,obito,rin,and minato's spirits were with him for a few moments. he would also have no motive. and when he was fighting(this has been seen a couple times) he pulls off his arm and its white stuff like white zetsu. and remember,zetsu can just touch someone and make a clone of them same chakra and all,like with kisame. (in the narutopedia it states that the clone still stays even after the person it is impersonating dies;it doesnt dissapear until the jutsu is released by the original zetsu) i really think zetsu has a lot more to do with this than what we think.(and he easily could have gone underground and got obito's body,thats where he would've gotton his eye) i will not belive its really obito until its absolutely proven.

[PrinceofPeace]

besides Itachi (the rest suck though)

[Wooster]

Yes, Itachi is just stupid.

[Ag_Surfr]

what about itachi? he's always been a boss.

[Ag_Surfr]

Originally Posted by kyuubi12

i still dont think its REALLY obito....i think its a zetsu.cause when kakashi died in the pain arc,obito,rin,and minato's spirits were with him for a few moments. he would also have no motive. and when he was fighting(this has been seen a couple times) he pulls off his arm and its white stuff like white zetsu. and remember,zetsu can just touch someone and make a clone of them same chakra and all,like with kisame. (in the narutopedia it states that the clone still stays even after the person it is impersonating dies;it doesnt dissapear until the jutsu is released by the original zetsu) i really think zetsu has a lot more to do with this than what we think.(and he easily could have gone underground and got obito's body,thats where he would've gotton his eye) i will not belive its really obito until its absolutely proven.

the flashback kind of lent credence to it being obito though. it showed stuff that only obito would have been aware of.

[Ag_Surfr]

Originally Posted by Jakropha

And can it be safe to assume that Senju are just born heroes?

All of the Kage are at least partially Senju, except for Minato, but that character was just good writing.

I want to see some legitimate backstory that the 2nd Hokage married a Uchiha (possibly Kagami's sister ) and that makes Tsunade technically part Uchiha.

And her knowing this, would have had the ability to get a Sharingan and infinite Rinnegan, therefore alluding to here inability to reason.

i thought tsunade was hashirama's granddaughter.

[mrsticky005]

Originally Posted by Jakropha

And can it be safe to assume that Senju are just born heroes?

All of the Kage are at least partially Senju, except for Minato, but that character was just good writing.

I want to see some legitimate backstory that the 2nd Hokage married a Uchiha (possibly Kagami's sister ) and that makes Tsunade technically part Uchiha.

And her knowing this, would have had the ability to get a Sharingan and infinite Rinnegan, therefore alluding to here inability to reason.

In case you didn't know I hate the Senjus as well.

Shimuras for the win.

[Wooster]

They actually sacrifice themselves for the village, not the other way around

[mrsticky005]

Originally Posted by Ag_Surfr

what about itachi? he's always been a boss.

Nope.

Itachi is a mess of a character with
overly haxxed jutsu arsenal and plot armor.

There's nothing boss about Mary Suitachi.

He USED to be boss in Part 1 to his death in Part 2 when he was straight up evil and there was actually some kind of balance to his power.

After Itachi Twist was revealed it was a downward spiral
of what was once an interesting character into a Kishi love fantasy.

[kyuubi12]

itachi is still awesome. he only wanted what was best for the village and his brother.

[Ag_Surfr]

Originally Posted by mrsticky005

Nope.

Itachi is a mess of a character with
overly haxxed jutsu arsenal and plot armor.

There's nothing boss about Mary Suitachi.

He USED to be boss in Part 1 to his death in Part 2 when he was straight up evil and there was actually some kind of balance to his power.

After Itachi Twist was revealed it was a downward spiral
of what was once an interesting character into a Kishi love fantasy.

yeah, his supposed motives really did not make sense even after they tried to explain it, although it also never made sense that he killed all the uchihas, or that he left sasuke alive. his jutsu is pretty bad ass though; amaterasu, tsukuyomi, susanoo, genjutsu with one finger, how fast he did his seals. i'd rank him as one of my top 5 favorite characters.

[Satsuki]

Originally Posted by mrsticky005

Shisui is DEAD. Yet had he lived he would turn evil. IT'S FATE MAN!

Itachi is just crap writing so therefore he's evil.

Wait, so who's the good Uchiha? Sasuke's Mother?

[Kioroshi.]

There is no good uchiha. ^

[BMC1994]

Originally Posted by mrsticky005

In case you didn't know I hate the Senjus as well.

Sarutobis for the win.

Fixed.

Originally Posted by Satsuki

Wait, so who's the good Uchiha? Sasuke's Mother?

The One who is dead :P

Source: OP.

[Satsuki]

Originally Posted by BMC1994

The One who is dead :P

Source: OP.

Umm, the OP basically means that Danzo is a good guy, but I don't see how that means that the only good Uchiha is a dead one... when Danzo is a Shimura, not an Uchiha.

So again, who is the good Uchiha the the OP talks about?

[mrsticky005]

Originally Posted by kyuubi12

itachi is still awesome. he only wanted what was best for the village and his brother.

Sure he did.

That's why he used mind torture to the point of hospitalization TWICE
on Sasuke so that Sasuke would hate him and "kill" him. That's why he
told Sasuke that he had to kill his best friend in order to be able to kill
him. That's why when Sasuke was actually somewhat getting along
in the hidden leaf Itachi barged in, beat the crap out of him because
Sasuke didn't have enough "hate" and wanted to make sure it was
still in Sasuke's schedule that he would "kill" his older brother.
That's why he allowed Sasuke into the hands of a mad man like
Orochimaru. That's why he made Sasuke suffer mind torture of
gouging out his eye. That's why he used incredibly deadly jutsu
on Sasuke. Sure he may have planned it out. But if a parent
"planned out" throwing knives viciously close to their child
you would seriously question them as a suitable parent.
That's why Itachi staged his own death so Sasuke could
mistakenly think he killed his older brother and be some kind of
"hero" of the same Uchiha Clan whose uprising would have
led to Sasuke's early demise. Then Sasuke can go live happily ever after.

Right.

Only a bleeding heart sociopathic buffoon
like Mary Suitachi would think such tripe.

Even if Itachi's plans did NOT miserably fail. It's absolutely ABSURD
to think Sasuke "killing" his own older brother Itachi wouldn't have
SERIOUS psychological effects on him.

You know WHY Tobi was able to manipulate Sasuke?

Because thanks to Itachi's "loving" plan for Sasuke. Sasuke ended up needing some SERIOUS mental therapy. And Dr. Tobi was there to serve.


Was lying and taking the blame for the massacre the right thing to do?
I would say it was. But where Itachi goes wrong is in FORCING Sasuke
to take "revenge" for the clan. It should up to Sasuke whether or not
he chooses to kill Itachi. But it wasn't. Itachi made that choice.
This is evident from the very fact Itachi staged his death.

I'm sorry to disappoint but Itachi is NOT awesome.

Originally Posted by Ag_Surfr

yeah, his supposed motives really did not make sense even after they tried to explain it, although it also never made sense that he killed all the uchihas, or that he left sasuke alive. his jutsu is pretty bad ass though; amaterasu, tsukuyomi, susanoo, genjutsu with one finger, how fast he did his seals. i'd rank him as one of my top 5 favorite characters.

As far as jutsu goes. I like them up until his death.
I liked when Sussano was a last resort trump card.

But then after Itachi Twist we got into the era of the Super Ninjas
and every time we get a insanely powerful ninja, Itachi has to one up
them. Or at the very least an Uchiha does. Exception being Hashirama
Senju and the Sage of the Six Paths. Itachi couldn't simply be a strong ninja.


I mean really...would it be so terrible for
Nagato/Pain to be stronger than Itachi?

Originally Posted by Satsuki

Wait, so who's the good Uchiha? Sasuke's Mother?

read below

Originally Posted by Kioroshi.

There is no good uchiha. ^

Thank you for paying attention.

Originally Posted by BMC1994

Fixed.



The One who is dead :P

Source: OP.

LIES!

I said Shimura!
Shimura >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Sarutobi.
Sorry Konohamaru

Originally Posted by Satsuki

Umm, the OP basically means that Danzo is a good guy, but I don't see how that means that the only good Uchiha is a dead one... when Danzo is a Shimura, not an Uchiha.

So again, who is the good Uchiha the the OP talks about?

I think you're confused.

Danzo is a good guy BECAUSE the only good Uchiha is a dead one
and therefore Danzo's getting rid of them is a blessing to society.